Looks pretty good. Has a little saving private Ryan feel to it. It has a good director and a very good supporting cast, including Benedict Cumberbatch.
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Looks pretty good. Has a little saving private Ryan feel to it. It has a good director and a very good supporting cast, including Benedict Cumberbatch.
Don't want to crap on it too early but why not get on the radio and call off the attack instead of sending two enlisted men as runners? I'm sure the attacking general is going to listen to them. Seems a little too Hollywood contrived tale to me.
I'm sure it will be a plot point that the radio is crap/damaged so they have to send a runner. The "Lost Battalion" had to use messenger pigeons to get word out of their location and to stop being shelled by their own arty.
Mainly field telephones in the trenches back then. Wires often/usually cut by artillery fire.
Had to use runners
Had to use runners
Usually not at a corps level like the scene implies, they had wireless radios.
Wireless was not secure communications. Of course they had codes, but I'm sure the storyline involves that being compromised.
What seems contrived is the scene where the guy's running crosswise across an attack. Do that and you'll be shot by your own men as a deserter.
Speaking of which, I saw the movie based on the life of J.R.R. Tolkien. It was very good, but there was a bit of an unrealistic plot in the WWI scenes. Still a great movie to watch.
What seems contrived is the scene where the guy's running crosswise across an attack. Do that and you'll be shot by your own men as a deserter.
Speaking of which, I saw the movie based on the life of J.R.R. Tolkien. It was very good, but there was a bit of an unrealistic plot in the WWI scenes. Still a great movie to watch.
Didn't the Australians already do this movie with Gallipoli?
Unless they were the Russians, who spoke in the clear at the Battle of Tannenberg and got their butts kicked as a result by a much smaller force.
Agreed, especially when Frodo and Gandalf took out the Panzer Division..!
Glad to see a WWI movie come out, how long has it been since a major movie came out on that.
War Horse?
Why should tomorrow be different than any other attack against fortified positions from 1914-1918?Quote:
If you fail, it will be a massacre.
Clearly Colin Firth isn't playing Haig.
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A quick list of Great War movies worth watching ...Irish_Man said:
Glad to see a WWI movie come out, how long has it been since a major movie came out on that.
https://explorethearchive.com/best-world-war-one-movies
And across every machine gun firing lane on both sides...
Where was there grass in no-mans land after 1914???
Where was there grass in no-mans land after 1914???
Passchendale was a pretty good flick. I used to love the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles as a kid.
That was just an insane battle. The whole mess was just insane and is to us incomprehensible now.JABQ04 said:
Passchendale was a pretty good flick. I used to love the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles as a kid.
The volume of casualties in most of the WW1 battles would twist peoples minds into noodles if they happened today.
First day of the Somme battle the British took almost 60,000 casualties, almost 20,000 of those dead.
In one day.
In one day.
I'm wondering how many people (on either side) were fully aware at the time of the extent of the casualties. I seem to recall reading the that press in England, France, and Germany were very much constrained by their respective governments with regard to the reporting on the war (focus on the successful battles, the exploits of flying aces like von Richthofen, Guynemer, Mannock; the sinking of enemy vessels by our heroic U-boat fleet, etc. etc.) ...Stive said:
The volume of casualties in most of the WW1 battles would twist peoples minds into noodles if they happened today.
Speaking of which, and maybe I've mentioned this before but my hands down favorite war novel is August, 1914 by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. The key is to realize that the slow, boring chapters at the beginning (I think its 4 or 5) that do nothing but show how decadent capitalists were, were only put in there for the Soviet censors. You can start the book after them and not miss a beat.Quote:
Unless they were the Russians, who spoke in the clear at the Battle of Tannenberg and got their butts kicked as a result by a much smaller force.
BrazosBendHorn said:A quick list of Great War movies worth watching ...Irish_Man said:
Glad to see a WWI movie come out, how long has it been since a major movie came out on that.
https://explorethearchive.com/best-world-war-one-movies
If one were to watch these, which are the best?
Also, I noticed The Lost Battalion is not on this list. I thought it was pretty decent when it came out, but that was years ago and I don't remember much of it.
I couldn't make it past those chapters. Book has been collecting dust for 5 years now.aalan94 said:Speaking of which, and maybe I've mentioned this before but my hands down favorite war novel is August, 1914 by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. The key is to realize that the slow, boring chapters at the beginning (I think its 4 or 5) that do nothing but show how decadent capitalists were, were only put in there for the Soviet censors. You can start the book after them and not miss a beat.Quote:
Unless they were the Russians, who spoke in the clear at the Battle of Tannenberg and got their butts kicked as a result by a much smaller force.
Just skip them. They literally have nothing to do with the rest of the book. I think he knew the censors were lazy and didn't read far enough in. If you do, you realize his critique of the Czarist army is also applicable to Stalin's army in 1941.
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Wireless was not secure communications. Of course they had codes, but I'm sure the storyline involves that being compromised.
What seems contrived is the scene where the guy's running crosswise across an attack. Do that and you'll be shot by your own men as a deserter.
Speaking of which, I saw the movie based on the life of J.R.R. Tolkien. It was very good, but there was a bit of an unrealistic plot in the WWI scenes. Still a great movie to watch.
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aalan is right as usual !Corporal Punishment said:I couldn't make it past those chapters. Book has been collecting dust for 5 years now.aalan94 said:Speaking of which, and maybe I've mentioned this before but my hands down favorite war novel is August, 1914 by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. The key is to realize that the slow, boring chapters at the beginning (I think its 4 or 5) that do nothing but show how decadent capitalists were, were only put in there for the Soviet censors. You can start the book after them and not miss a beat.Quote:
Unless they were the Russians, who spoke in the clear at the Battle of Tannenberg and got their butts kicked as a result by a much smaller force.
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Wireless was not secure communications. Of course they had codes, but I'm sure the storyline involves that being compromised.
What seems contrived is the scene where the guy's running crosswise across an attack. Do that and you'll be shot by your own men as a deserter.
Speaking of which, I saw the movie based on the life of J.R.R. Tolkien. It was very good, but there was a bit of an unrealistic plot in the WWI scenes. Still a great movie to watch.
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Beneath Hill 60 great - many thanks for the list . Free with Prime video.gigemhilo said:BrazosBendHorn said:A quick list of Great War movies worth watching ...Irish_Man said:
Glad to see a WWI movie come out, how long has it been since a major movie came out on that.
https://explorethearchive.com/best-world-war-one-movies
If one were to watch these, which are the best?
Also, I noticed The Lost Battalion is not on this list. I thought it was pretty decent when it came out, but that was years ago and I don't remember much of it.
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And over a million casualties (both sides) over 140 or so days. The numbers are just hard to comprehend.SRBS said:
First day of the Somme battle the British took almost 60,000 casualties, almost 20,000 of those dead.
In one day.
To this day the deadliest single engagement in US Military history was the Meuse-Argonne Offensive from Sep. to Nov. 1918. US forces took something like 120,000 casualties with 26,000 KIA. That's a single battle.Stive said:
The volume of casualties in most of the WW1 battles would twist peoples minds into noodles if they happened today.
By comparison the Battle of the Bulge had 90,000 casualties with 19,000 killed.
It's amazing how much American blood was spilled over that single, relatively small corner of Europe.
gigemhilo said:BrazosBendHorn said:A quick list of Great War movies worth watching ...Irish_Man said:
Glad to see a WWI movie come out, how long has it been since a major movie came out on that.
https://explorethearchive.com/best-world-war-one-movies
If one were to watch these, which are the best?
Also, I noticed The Lost Battalion is not on this list. I thought it was pretty decent when it came out, but that was years ago and I don't remember much of it.
Passchendaele gets my vote for the best.
BrazosBendHorn said:I'm wondering how many people (on either side) were fully aware at the time of the extent of the casualties. I seem to recall reading the that press in England, France, and Germany were very much constrained by their respective governments with regard to the reporting on the war (focus on the successful battles, the exploits of flying aces like von Richthofen, Guynemer, Mannock; the sinking of enemy vessels by our heroic U-boat fleet, etc. etc.) ...Stive said:
The volume of casualties in most of the WW1 battles would twist peoples minds into noodles if they happened today.
I'm sure the British held the press back, they did in WWII as well
My grandfather was gassed during the Meuse-Argonne Offensive. The Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery is amazing. It is the resting place of the largest number of American servicemen in all of Europe. It is on sloping ground and to stand at the chapel which sits high on a hill and to look down on over 14,000 headstones is a sight you won't ever forget.Belton Ag said:To this day the deadliest single engagement in US Military history was the Meuse-Argonne Offensive from Sep. to Nov. 1918. US forces took something like 120,000 casualties with 26,000 KIA. That's a single battle.Stive said:
The volume of casualties in most of the WW1 battles would twist peoples minds into noodles if they happened today.
By comparison the Battle of the Bulge had 90,000 casualties with 19,000 killed.
It's amazing how much American blood was spilled over that single, relatively small corner of Europe.
The Meuse-Argonne American Memorial is also worth a visit. If you make the climb to the top you have a great view of the terrain and can grasp why the fighting there was so costly. It has 234 steps going up and the same number coming back down! I highly recommend seeing both.
AtlAg05 said:BrazosBendHorn said:I'm wondering how many people (on either side) were fully aware at the time of the extent of the casualties. I seem to recall reading the that press in England, France, and Germany were very much constrained by their respective governments with regard to the reporting on the war (focus on the successful battles, the exploits of flying aces like von Richthofen, Guynemer, Mannock; the sinking of enemy vessels by our heroic U-boat fleet, etc. etc.) ...Stive said:
The volume of casualties in most of the WW1 battles would twist peoples minds into noodles if they happened today.
I'm sure the British held the press back, they did in WWII as well
I seem to remember they were, but once casualty notifications were posted then the people didn't have to dig too much into it. Especially with the Pals Battalions.
Saw the movie today. Thumbs up, it's worth your time & money. Really deserves to be seen on the big screen ...
Mental Floss put it on their list of 25 best war movies ...
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/611836/best-war-movies-of-all-time
A subjective list, of course, but it's nice that they have a little synopsis and clip for each film ...
My $0.02 is that the list needs to include The Bridges at Toko-Ri ...
Mental Floss put it on their list of 25 best war movies ...
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/611836/best-war-movies-of-all-time
A subjective list, of course, but it's nice that they have a little synopsis and clip for each film ...
My $0.02 is that the list needs to include The Bridges at Toko-Ri ...
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