You better watch your mouth, picket pounder!!!!!!!Aggie12B said:
The tank might survive but the DATs inside the tank would be F***ed!
Did my DAT statement hit too close to home?clarythedrill said:You better watch your mouth, picket pounder!!!!!!!Aggie12B said:
The tank might survive but the DATs inside the tank would be F***ed!
Somebody needs to calibrate their joke meter. That somebody is you. Sorry your Soldier got killed, but I have lost Soldiers in combat too. Things happen, unfortunately. The gunner can only see what is in his sights, and when in a higher magnification, even less.Aggie12B said:Did my DAT statement hit too close to home?clarythedrill said:You better watch your mouth, picket pounder!!!!!!!Aggie12B said:
The tank might survive but the DATs inside the tank would be F***ed!
The only Soldier I failed to bring home alive from all 5 of my deployments was killed because a DAT took a shot 20 degrees past his right range fan so he could "get his kill on." Those are the words that came out during the investigation. Individually, there are some tankers who are ok, but collectively they are DATs.
My Soldier getting killed by the tanker had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GUNNER ONLY BEING ABLE TO SEE WHAT IS IN HIS SIGHTS. IT HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE GUNNER GOING 20 DEGREES BEYOND THE EXTENT OF HIS RIGHT RANGE FAN TO TAKE THE SHOT. If he had stayed within his range fans, he wouldn't have taken the shot and my Soldier wouldn't have died.clarythedrill said:Somebody needs to calibrate their joke meter. That somebody is you. Sorry your Soldier got killed, but I have lost Soldiers in combat too. Things happen, unfortunately. The gunner can only see what is in his sights, and when in a higher magnification, even less.Aggie12B said:Did my DAT statement hit too close to home?clarythedrill said:You better watch your mouth, picket pounder!!!!!!!Aggie12B said:
The tank might survive but the DATs inside the tank would be F***ed!
The only Soldier I failed to bring home alive from all 5 of my deployments was killed because a DAT took a shot 20 degrees past his right range fan so he could "get his kill on." Those are the words that came out during the investigation. Individually, there are some tankers who are ok, but collectively they are DATs.
P.S. Combat engineers are some of the dumbest and most slovenly Soldiers I have ever been around in my experience. See, I can paint with a wide brush too.
What you don't understand is that there is no way to judge what is 20 degrees and what is 2 degrees when inside a tank. We don't even deal with degrees, we deal with mils. When looking through a sight that may have been set anywhere between 10 power and 50 power, the concept of "degrees' does not exist, as the gunner can only see what is in his sight. If you are outside the "line of sight" within whichever sight the gunner was using, you have no idea how close anybody or anything is to your gun-target line. Even when given a Target Reference Point, if you move the vehicle at all, everything in reference to the TRP changes, and in combat, things happen quickly.Aggie12B said:My Soldier getting killed by the tanker had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GUNNER ONLY BEING ABLE TO SEE WHAT IS IN HIS SIGHTS. IT HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE GUNNER GOING 20 DEGREES BEYOND THE EXTENT OF HIS RIGHT RANGE FAN TO TAKE THE SHOT. If he had stayed within his range fans, he wouldn't have taken the shot and my Soldier wouldn't have died.clarythedrill said:Somebody needs to calibrate their joke meter. That somebody is you. Sorry your Soldier got killed, but I have lost Soldiers in combat too. Things happen, unfortunately. The gunner can only see what is in his sights, and when in a higher magnification, even less.Aggie12B said:Did my DAT statement hit too close to home?clarythedrill said:You better watch your mouth, picket pounder!!!!!!!Aggie12B said:
The tank might survive but the DATs inside the tank would be F***ed!
The only Soldier I failed to bring home alive from all 5 of my deployments was killed because a DAT took a shot 20 degrees past his right range fan so he could "get his kill on." Those are the words that came out during the investigation. Individually, there are some tankers who are ok, but collectively they are DATs.
P.S. Combat engineers are some of the dumbest and most slovenly Soldiers I have ever been around in my experience. See, I can paint with a wide brush too.
I know Soldiers die. That's not what I have the problem with, it's how it happened. I won't argue that 12Bs do some stupid s***.
What if they were inside a refrigerator inside the tank?JABQ04 said:
I don't care about the tank. No way in hell the crew survives.
Guitarsoup said:What if they were inside a refrigerator inside the tank?JABQ04 said:
I don't care about the tank. No way in hell the crew survives.
