Looks great!!

Super stoked for this. Possibly even more for the new Star Wars movie in December

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yes please... may i have more spitfires....

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Seem to be a lot (relatively speaking) of Spitfires remaining in flying condition. The Spitfire remains one of the most beautiful, if I can use that word, aircraft ever built.

I was actually more excited by the appearance of the warbird that flies over the boat and the captain announces to his crew that it's one of ours - that one looked like a Bristol Beaufighter. I'm hoping that was real and not a CGI.

Beaufighter was my initial reaction but, after reading this, I suspect it's perhaps the He111 scale replica they used even though it's not "one of ours".

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Beaufighter was my initial reaction but, after reading this, I suspect it's perhaps the He111 scale replica they used even though it's not "one of ours".

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The Beaufighter shows up when they guys have apparently set out into the Channel and they see a twin engine plane coming in low over them, the captain says "It's one of ours" right as it zooms overhead. That is not a Heinkel. There is a Heinkel shown at another point in the trailer unloading bombs on a ship below.

I am not aware of any flying condition Beaufighters. I know there was a Spanish-built Heinkel for many years; she was used in movies like Patton and Battle of Britain, but I think she might have been destroyed not too many years ago in a crash.

The flyover clip is dark and blurred, so I thought they may have used the He111 replica as "close enough", but I agree it's more likely one of the film's few uses of CGI.

Bristol Blenheim perhaps? There's one of those flying in England.

Ah..........

I did in fact think about the Blenheim, as I know they look very much alike, but was thinking the nose was a bit more rounded and stubby than the Blenheim's in that brief and blurry shot. But looks like it is a Blenheim. Still very cool!

That Blenheim is the night fighter variant, btw. You can see the gun tray under the fuselage....

Events leading up to Dunkirk.
Hurricanes

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Those shots of of real live Spitfire Vics aroused me.

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One of the two most beautiful planes ever produced. The other one is the Lockheed Constellation.

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To which the Dash 80 sez, "But can it do a barrel roll?"




"Please remain seated with your seatbelts tightly fastened until we regain a normal upright attitude"

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F-86 Sabre

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Yep. I've had trouble with that for decades. I can remember the number for every other "P" or "F" aircraft, but for some reason I always (and erroneously) think of "87" for the Sabre. Shame on me ...

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He talked highly of it

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I know there was a Spanish-built Heinkel for many years; she was used in movies like Patton and Battle of Britain, but I think she might have been destroyed not too many years ago in a crash.

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This Heinkel was based in Falcon Field, Mesa, AZ and was owned by the Commemorative Air Force Museum At Falcon Field. I got to visit the National Weather Service office in nearby Tempe many times from the late 90's until I retired in 2010. My visits were at least 10 days, so I always had a weekend off to visit the CAF Museum.

I even got a couple of my buddies hooked on the museum as well. I always found it interesting that the staff would let you crawl around inside their aircraft, unescorted. My buddies and I crawled around in the Heinkel on a couple of our visits there and also in their B-17, Sentimental Journey.

Sadly, on my last visit to the museum in March 2010, I learned that the Heinkel had been destroyed on takeoff from Cheyenne, WY on its way to an airshow. Both pilots were killed. It's a great museum and well worth a look see if you find yourself in the Phoenix area.

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I know there was a Spanish-built Heinkel for many years; she was used in movies like Patton and Battle of Britain, but I think she might have been destroyed not too many years ago in a crash.

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This Heinkel was based in Falcon Field, Mesa, AZ and was owned by the Commemorative Air Force Museum At Falcon Field. I got to visit the National Weather Service office in nearby Tempe many times form the late 90's until I retired in 2010. My visits were at least 10 days, so I always had a weekend off to visit the CAF Museum.

I even got a couple of my buddies hooked on the museum as well. I always found it interesting that the staff would let you crawl around inside their aircraft, unescorted. My buddies and I crawled around in the Heinkel on a couple of our visits there and also in their B-17, Sentimental Journey.

Sadly, on my last visit to the museum in March 2010, I learned that the Heinkel had been destroyed on takeoff from Cheyenne, WY on its way to an airshow. Both pilots were killed. It's a great museum and well worth a look see if you find yourself in the Phoenix area.

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There has been a lot of talk lately in the warbird community bout the risks of flying the extremely rare planes like the Heinkel . As much as I love to see them airborne it is truly sad when crashes reduces the number to 1 or 2 flying. Thanks the gods that we have a lot of flying Spits and Mustangs as they are the absolute super stars of WW2 aircraft but having no more serviceable ( or so I have heard) great planes like the HE-111 is tragic.

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I agree too.

Every time I see one of those photos of the trash heaps with identifiable warbirds in the mess - P-38s, B-24s, Jap planes, etc, I have to wonder why we could not be a bit more forward-thinking with preserving a bit more of our history.

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I agree with what you said but do you save common, everyday items with little to no value now?

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I agree too.

Every time I see one of those photos of the trash heaps with identifiable warbirds in the mess - P-38s, B-24s, Jap planes, etc, I have to wonder why we could not be a bit more forward-thinking with preserving a bit more of our history.

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Agree, particularly as it applies to flyable historic war birds. But I have to say I am impressed how many restored, and I suppose potentially flyable, rare war birds are in museums all around the world. The Smithsonian Air and Space Museum, particularly its spectacular Udvar-Hazy annex, and the National Museum of the Air Force are excellent examples of forward-thinking preservation. Terrific! Here, too!

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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I agree too.

Every time I see one of those photos of the trash heaps with identifiable warbirds in the mess - P-38s, B-24s, Jap planes, etc, I have to wonder why we could not be a bit more forward-thinking with preserving a bit more of our history.

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I agree with what you said but do you save common, everyday items with little to no value now?

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Depends on if I have attached some sentimental value to such things. But probably, mostly no, I don't.

Regarding warbirds, I understand that aircraft like the P-40, Spitfire, Hurricane, P-47 etc had little to no military value given the advent of the jet aircraft that began right as the war ended. Still, warbirds like the P-51 and Corsair saw continued action through Vietnam, and even the Douglas A-26 saw service through Vietnam as the B-26. There was a value to these aircraft, even those with no military service left, in terms of preserving our history, and while I understand why the Allies did destroy Jap and Nazi aircraft, I would also say that examples of those should have been preserved as well.

But I am grateful for every one of these warbirds that we do have left, flying or not. I have been to the Smithsonian in the years prior to the opening of the annex at Dulles Airport, and that was a spectacular place. I told my wife that I want to return to DC to see the annex, and that no, seeing it through one of the Transformers movies does not count.

I would also highly recommend the National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola, Florida http://www.navalaviationmuseum.org/. I have been there 4 times and will say that it is every bit as awesome as the Smithsonian. One of these days I will make the trip to Dayton, Ohio to see the Air Force Museum.

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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I agree too.

Every time I see one of those photos of the trash heaps with identifiable warbirds in the mess - P-38s, B-24s, Jap planes, etc, I have to wonder why we could not be a bit more forward-thinking with preserving a bit more of our history.

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Agree, particularly as it applies to flyable historic war birds. But I have to say I am impressed how many restored, and I suppose potentially flyable, rare war birds are in museums all around the world. The Smithsonian Air and Space Museum, particularly its spectacular Udvar-Hazy annex, and the National Museum of the Air Force are excellent examples of forward-thinking preservation. Terrific! Here, too!

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As am I. I've not yet made it to Udvar-Hazy (did not exist when I was last in DC), or the Museum of the Air Force. Also recommend the National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola, Florida - http://www.navalaviationmuseum.org/

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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I agree too.

Every time I see one of those photos of the trash heaps with identifiable warbirds in the mess - P-38s, B-24s, Jap planes, etc, I have to wonder why we could not be a bit more forward-thinking with preserving a bit more of our history.

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I agree with what you said but do you save common, everyday items with little to no value now?

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Depends on if I have attached some sentimental value to such things. But probably, mostly no, I don't.

Regarding warbirds, I understand that aircraft like the P-40, Spitfire, Hurricane, P-47 etc had little to no military value given the advent of the jet aircraft that began right as the war ended. Still, warbirds like the P-51 and Corsair saw continued action through Vietnam, and even the Douglas A-26 saw service through Vietnam as the B-26. There was a value to these aircraft, even those with no military service left, in terms of preserving our history, and while I understand why the Allies did destroy Jap and Nazi aircraft, I would also say that examples of those should have been preserved as well.

But I am grateful for every one of these warbirds that we do have left, flying or not. I have been to the Smithsonian in the years prior to the opening of the annex at Dulles Airport, and that was a spectacular place. I told my wife that I want to return to DC to see the annex, and that no, seeing it through one of the Transformers movies does not count.

I would also highly recommend the National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola, Florida http://www.navalaviationmuseum.org/. I have been there 4 times and will say that it is every bit as awesome as the Smithsonian. One of these days I will make the trip to Dayton, Ohio to see the Air Force Museum.

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My Grandfather told me of the USN pushing crated aircraft (P-51s) off the decks into the Indian Ocean immediately after the wards end. Said the Brits burned scores of Spitfires at their airfields around Calcutta.

Both the Pensacola and the Smithsonian annex at Dulles are excellent. I have yet to see the one at Dayton. the Marine Corps Museum at Quantico is also very good.

The wife talked me into seeing it in IMAX a couple nights ago.

This is one you MUST see in a theater with a great sound system. In addition to the cinematography, the sounds in the movie are incredible. I'm so glad I didn't wait to watch it on an airplane.