How about "undulating"?

Pretty impressive on that course and in that wind.

Abdi!

Rupp, Abdi, Riley.

Can't believe Abdi did it. Really was hoping Korir was gonna get a spot

Jim at 2:15:05 in 22nd place

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I think Walmsley hits ~2:15. Don't think he makes the team, but he'll finish in the Top 10.

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Nice call on his time!

AggieOO said:

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wangus12 said:

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I think Walmsley hits ~2:15. Don't think he makes the team, but he'll finish in the Top 10.

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Nice call on his time!

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I expected the times to be slower. Didn't see anyone breaking 2:10. I'm curious to see what Jim does now. Go back to Ultras or possibly commit to the marathon for a chance at 2024

He's running comrades in June.

I have buddy trying to convince me into my first 100m at Rocky Raccoon next year, but if there was ever an Ultra I'd want to do, it'd be Comrades

This is one of the ladies in the top two first marathon

Can't believe all the women's favorites faded out.

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I have buddy trying to convince me into my first 100m at Rocky Raccoon next year, but if there was ever an Ultra I'd want to do, it'd be Comrades

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My favorite race I've done, by far.

Tuliamuk, Seidel & Kipyego for the women. Des is the alternate

AggieOO said:

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wangus12 said:

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I have buddy trying to convince me into my first 100m at Rocky Raccoon next year, but if there was ever an Ultra I'd want to do, it'd be Comrades

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My favorite race I've done, by far.

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Not sure I'd call it my absolute favorite, but it's top 3 for sure... but, to echo Aggie00's sentiments, do it. An amazingly well run event, great folks, and an easy to crew course. And definitely one of the easier hundreds out there, so a great choice for a first go at the distance. Don't get me wrong, it's tough, but you can still finish under 30 if your race completely derails, even early on.

I was referring to comrades.

Done RR100 as well. It's a good first race.

Funny watching those emaciated hens peck at each other.

Decent interview with Jim about the trials, how it went, and what is next.

https://slate.com/culture/2020/03/jim-walmsley-olympic-marathon-trial-results-interview.html

His comments about Rupp are interesting to me. I realize that Rupp is very much the face of the group of Salazar trained athletes, but I just wonder how far the presumed dark cloud by association goes. I have to imagine that there were other runners on Saturday who have been trained by Salazar in some way but maybe not in the sense of direct coaching through the Oregon Project. I just think that the whole situation is messy, and it's so hard to know what is what, who is clean, etc. in its current state.

I definitely don't think rupp was clean with Salazar. Now? I don't know, but guessing he still has contact with Salazar, so I think its a better chance than not that he's taking something.

Maybe this thought is too rational, but wouldn't it be crazy to stay in contact with Salazar in the process of qualifying for and training for the Olympics? Or is the thought just the envelope has been pushed so far already, why not keep pushing?

I generally find the psychology of this type of thing intriguing. I often wonder if the line just gets blurred and pushed so incrementally that coaches and athletes end up in a place that they never would have imagined at the beginning of the line being blurred and pushed.

(And sorry that I am kind of hijacking the thread after the Walsmley interview. Reading it this morning has led to related tangents.)

ptothemo said:

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Maybe this thought is too rational, but wouldn't it be crazy to stay in contact with Salazar in the process of qualifying for and training for the Olympics? Or is the thought just the envelope has been pushed so far already, why not keep pushing?

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Did you watch the 30 for 30 on Lance Armstrong? Wouldn't it be crazy to assume that any of them are clean? Is it one of those "everybody knows that everybody knows but nobody admits it" sort of sports?

I don't think T&F is quite as bad as cycling in the 90s/early 2000s was, but there are definitely way more dopers than people like to admit.