At the risk of sounding like an old man yelling at clouds, I'm getting annoyed at the popularity of these. On my ride this morning, I encountered 3 of them on a 20 or so mile stretch down white oak bayou and back. One, dude was going about 25 serving through crowds. Second, guy just cruising same speed as me, just to my left with his front wheel even with my back. I eventually slowed and told him to go on. Third, guy trying to beat a light and swerve around a family at the same time and ended up wiping out on the curb.

Are these things legal on bike and hike trails that have no motor vehicle signs?

I think the biggest issue with them are most people on them are ass hats going 25-30 mph in crowded areas and these people have no business going that fast.

Don't get me wrong, there are dumb cyclists out there, but at least the majority of them going 20+mph are somewhere experienced and half ass know what they're doing.....

No offense to people here who might ride them, but ebike is not real cycling

The ones in Austin people rent go stupid fast and people can't get them slowed down

I don't own or ride an ebike... but almost all of them go no faster than 20 MPH which is slower than a decently trained road biker goes.

With that being said, nobody has any business going over 15 mph or so on a shared hike and bike trail in my opinion. Want to go faster than that? Go hit the open road. I live on and both bike and run Terry Hershey pretty often and it's annoying to get buzzed by (especially when I'm running) the Lance Armstrong wannabes whipping around the 10 ft wide trail with their 2-4 man pelotons.

I can tell you one flew by me today when I was doing 18-20. So I do know some go faster than that.

ATM9000 said:

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I don't own or ride an ebike... but almost all of them go no faster than 20 MPH which is slower than a decently trained road biker goes.

With that being said, nobody has any business going over 15 mph or so on a shared hike and bike trail in my opinion. Want to go faster than that? Go hit the open road. I live on and both bike and run Terry Hershey pretty often and it's annoying to get buzzed by (especially when I'm running) the Lance Armstrong wannabes whipping around the 10 ft wide trail with their 2-4 man pelotons.

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It depends on the brand, but a number of trek bikes will go up to 28mph

htxag09 said:

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At the risk of sounding like an old man yelling at clouds, I'm getting annoyed at the popularity of these. On my ride this morning, I encountered 3 of them on a 20 or so mile stretch down white oak bayou and back. One, dude was going about 25 serving through crowds. Second, guy just cruising same speed as me, just to my left with his front wheel even with my back. I eventually slowed and told him to go on. Third, guy trying to beat a light and swerve around a family at the same time and ended up wiping out on the curb.

Are these things legal on bike and hike trails that have no motor vehicle signs?

I think the biggest issue with them are most people on them are ass hats going 25-30 mph in crowded areas and these people have no business going that fast.

Don't get me wrong, there are dumb cyclists out there, but at least the majority of them going 20+mph are somewhere experienced and half ass know what they're doing.....

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Were they wearing full Lance Armstrong kit?

I'm wanting to get a conversion kit for my bike. Looks like fun.

I know that they are not allowed on the carriage paths in Acadia National Park because they are considered a motorized vehicle. Not sure where other jurisdictions stand on that...

Wait, bikers don't like people who don't follow rules of the road. Interesting

BTD said:

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Wait, bikers don't like people who don't follow rules of the road. Interesting

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Everybody... and I mean everybody breaks laws on the road either consciously or not. I think it is laughable when people get all suddenly become laser focused internet beaurocrats with cyclists.

Everybody gets all bent out of shape when a cyclist blows through a stop sign 'cuz the rules! Meanwhile most studies show motor vehicles roll stop signs over half the time in the absence of other cars. Both of those things are a sign of not fully paying attention which is bad... but I give the cyclist a hell of a better chance avoiding an unseen hazard in that scenario than a car driver who is tuned out.

Derail in place....

FWIW, I strongly believe that motorists don't hate cyclists because they run stop signs or red lights. That's just a convenient excuse and scapegoat. They simply hate cyclists because they slightly inconvenience them....

Idk about ebikes but those escooters are bad ass. I look forward to my trips to Tulsa and OKC just bc I rent those and cruise downtown between meetings and in the evenings. Yesterday I road around for a total of an hour for about $8. Cheapest fun around

I'm also a child in an adults body tho

htxag09 said:

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Derail in place....

FWIW, I strongly believe that motorists don't hate cyclists because they run stop signs or red lights. That's just a convenient excuse and scapegoat. They simply hate cyclists because they slightly inconvenience them....

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I mean... that's really obvious. I'll go one step further and say they hate cyclists because they look different than a standard motor vehicle.

I hate the other motorists too. Would prefer if I didn't have to share anything

Everyone drives and makes mistakes/pushes boundaries.

Not everyone rides a bike. And of those that do, few do it on the road acting like a motor vehicle when it suits them - and like a pedestrian when it doesn't.

I wouldn't mind having an e-mountain bike to help my lazy ass up the hills.
But most of the trails I ride here in Oregon have banned them.