Any update on when you can actually start ordering a 2022 and get a realistic eta ?
Furlock Bones said:JSKolache said:They are basically identical. Both are heavy twin turbo V6 IFS crewcabs whose primary purpose is to haul dad to work Mon-Fri and kids to soccer pratice on Saturday mornings. Change my mind.Furlock Bones said:The Raptor is a special purpose vehicle. The TRD Pro isn't even in the same stratosphere.JSKolache said:
Payload equal / slightly better than Raptor, FYI. If you need to haul 2k lbs of ish, then buy a 1 ton truck or rent a trailer.
LMAO
A Raptor and a Ted pro are no where near identical. Watch some videos on the raptor runs in Baja. No TRD pro is going to handle that without heavy modifications.
Just because most people use them the same way does not make them the same.
aggiepaintrain said:
they are bored waiting for their trucks to get out of the shop
ABATTBQ11 said:Furlock Bones said:JSKolache said:They are basically identical. Both are heavy twin turbo V6 IFS crewcabs whose primary purpose is to haul dad to work Mon-Fri and kids to soccer pratice on Saturday mornings. Change my mind.Furlock Bones said:The Raptor is a special purpose vehicle. The TRD Pro isn't even in the same stratosphere.JSKolache said:
Payload equal / slightly better than Raptor, FYI. If you need to haul 2k lbs of ish, then buy a 1 ton truck or rent a trailer.
LMAO
A Raptor and a Ted pro are no where near identical. Watch some videos on the raptor runs in Baja. No TRD pro is going to handle that without heavy modifications.
Just because most people use them the same way does not make them the same.
I think you missed the joke
Correct.Jbob04 said:
So no more V8? Only a twin turbo V6?
I have had 3 major issues with Tundra that prevented me from ever considering them. 2 have been fixed….hedge said:
What's with all the Ford bros talking trash
Garrelli 5000 said:
Over 200 photos of it here: https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g37621308/2022-toyota-tundra-revealed-gallery/?slide=1
Towing tongue weight counts against payload capacity so it affects more truck users than you are thinking it does. My travel trailer tongue weight is 550lbs but the trailer is only 4K total pounds. Two large adults, two older kids, and a dog is another 600+ pounds and now you've got 120 pounds of payload left for your stuff(full ice chest, camp chairs, shade canopy, generator and fuel, firewood, etc) in the bed. That is not enough.YouBet said:I've only owned an El Camino so I'm not sure why I'm even commenting on this thread, but I was going to say this. 99.9% of people will never come close to the Tundra's payload max nor would Ford, Chevy, or Ram drivers.AggieFrog said:Not sure it's messed up. What is the target market for the Tundra? It's not a work truck - 1400+ payload is more than enough for the vast majority of the Tundra market. Being capable off-road and a smooth ride are more important than payload.longeryak said:How the eff do you mess that up when you had ~15 years to plan this generation?El_duderino said:YouBet said:
For those wondering about payload it's 1,940. It's in the articles posted on this thread. Maybe I'm missing something obvious. Maybe that is only for TRD PRO trim?
MAX payload is 1,940 which will be on a 2wd stripped down truck. The trd pro payload I believe was 1,490, and the limited crewmax with 6.5' bed was 1,270
in this case, no. i expect auto manufacturers to be on the money due to the massive liability involved.Madman said:
On the payload and capacity topic.
I work for a manufacturer. My catalog ratings are very conservative. I have Chinese competitors that have catalog ratings well over mine. Yet my company invented the standard formulas most industries use to come up with a performance number. I can take the Chinese products apart and use my math to come up with a real number and its never what the Chinese advertise.
So question. Do we always believe what the car companies publish? Or do we have a situation where car companies are willing to put a number on paper to "win"?
Because I would trust Toyota to be conservative in their published numbers. A company like Dodge, not so much.
i really hope that is the case. this would make way more sense.El_duderino said:
Apparently someone on one of the tundra forums grabbed a payload sheet and it's actually better than what I thought. A 2022 crewmax 6.5' bed SR5 has a payload of 1,720 which would make it 500lbs better than my 2017 SR5 crewmax had at 1,220.
Then Toyota made a poor decision in not releasing them the full specs as this isn't the only board dissecting the numbers.El_duderino said:
Apparently someone on one of the tundra forums grabbed a payload sheet and it's actually better than what I thought. A 2022 crewmax 6.5' bed SR5 has a payload of 1,720 which would make it 500lbs better than my 2017 SR5 crewmax had at 1,220.
Did Toyota release that number or did TFL? There were multiple rooms with each one having a different vehicle set up where reporters were moving in and out of to do their reporting fromlongeryak said:Then Toyota made a poor decision in not releasing them the full specs as this isn't the only board dissecting the numbers.El_duderino said:
Apparently someone on one of the tundra forums grabbed a payload sheet and it's actually better than what I thought. A 2022 crewmax 6.5' bed SR5 has a payload of 1,720 which would make it 500lbs better than my 2017 SR5 crewmax had at 1,220.
Maybe others don't inflate their numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota cuts a few percent of their number to always be well below a safety factor. Similar to my company.Furlock Bones said:in this case, no. i expect auto manufacturers to be on the money due to the massive liability involved.Madman said:
On the payload and capacity topic.
I work for a manufacturer. My catalog ratings are very conservative. I have Chinese competitors that have catalog ratings well over mine. Yet my company invented the standard formulas most industries use to come up with a performance number. I can take the Chinese products apart and use my math to come up with a real number and its never what the Chinese advertise.
So question. Do we always believe what the car companies publish? Or do we have a situation where car companies are willing to put a number on paper to "win"?
Because I would trust Toyota to be conservative in their published numbers. A company like Dodge, not so much.