5HP Galloway Hit/Miss

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Centerpole90
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So I did a thing on Saturday. There was a farm equipment auction locally and someone dropped off a lot of small stationary engines. The largest of them was this 5 horsepower Galloway 'Frostproof' engine. There is not a complete Galloway serial number list, but I suspect this is a later production engine; possibly as 'new' as the early 1920's. So it's right at 100 years old. This is a hit/miss engine that uses governor weights to hold the exhaust valve open when the engine is spinning above a predetermined RPM and when the RPMs slow enough it releases a catch that lets the exhaust valve close and trips an ignitor on the power stroke... then back to freewheeling until it slows down again. That is not an original Galloway truck it is sitting on. The engine alone weighs about 900+ pounds.

Rule 1:





At 5hp, this certainly didn't run a washing machine or dishwasher when it was new. It was better suited for a large mill, a pump, a sawmill, feed mixer... or any other task around the farm that required such a significant investment:



I'll document as I get it running again. If you are so overcome with jealousy that you have to have your own Galloway - you can build a 1/3 scale running engine for yourself.... much assembly required.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Working-Hit-and-Miss-Model-Engine-Gas-Powered-1-3-Scale-Galloway-Casting-Kit/293698822088?hash=item4461d05fc8:g:iX4AAOSwn01fPqn3
Silvy
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I'm not convinced that your class year isn't 1890.
TxSquarebody
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Love hit/miss engines. That looks like a fun one!

Edit: I need the anvil in back of the first pic!
stbabs
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Centerpole, very interesting coincidence!
I just stumbled upon a McCormick Deering Type LB hit and miss.
It's selectable 3 or 5 HP. Selector rod makes the change.
It was hard stuck but I pulled the head, carb and finally convinced the piston to come out. An overnight soak in Zep, 4 lb hammer and a 2X2 block did the trick.

Soaking should free the rings. Some honing should clean up the bore.

I left the crank, cam and timing gear in the block.... don't want to have to figure out the reassemble.

Type LBs date from 1941 to 48. Not old as yours but looks very similar.

I'll post some pics when I'm back in the shop on Monday
Centerpole90
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That's awesome stbabs, I look forward to seeing all together and running!

Today, I picked up a coil in town and pulled the igniter out of the Galloway. The igniter bolts into the side of the block and protrudes into the combustion chamber. It consists of a spring loaded arm/contact (hot) and a fixed contact (ground); at rest they make a normally open switch. When the RPMs get slow and the governor calls for a 'hit' the pushrod draws back the spring loaded arm and contact is made (closing the switch) between points; then when it trips the arms spring apart and....



Kapow.

Anyone want to hold their tongue on there to tell me if that fire is as hot as it looks?
CanyonAg77
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CP90, didn't you tell me once there was someone at the JD HQ who would help with ID of old equipment?

I have an old JD trailer I'd like to know more about.





EskimoJoe
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That's pretty sweet! Its definitely large for a stationary engine of the time. Do you have any plans for it once you get it running? My dad has a 2.5 hp Fairbanks Morse hit and miss engine that is waiting to be restored. He talked about putting it on an ice cream maker. It should be next on his list now that the 2 early D tractors are running again.
Centerpole90
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@Canyon, I can't see the pictures, but I sure would love to. I'm pretty sure what I was saying was that John Deere had excellent records about tractors and when they were built, where they were shipped, and with what special equipment or configuration they were fit with. Archive searches, I believe, are now done by retired JD employees on a fee basis. Years ago you could just call in - but they got overwhelmed as the hobby grew. Monarch Lathes is another company that you can call with a serial number and they can tell you within a minute exactly when and where any lathe they ever built went and what was on it.

I don't specifically know about anyone helping ID implements or equipment apart from just enthusiasts who work there. The best resource for IDing or getting info on things like a wagon or running gear is Green Magazine. They've done lots of feature articles through the years on things besides tractors. In addition to that there is a write in column called "Mr. Thinker" that answers technical questions or IDs JD items - but Mr. Thinker is an azzhole if you ask a stupid question; so use him as a last resource if you don't want to risk being roasted in front of a world of JD enthusiasts.

@EskimoJoe, Funny you should ask because just yesterday I started to think along those lines. Ice cream makers are the standby common engine driven projects. I have seen several of them. Just yesterday I was talking to ValleyRatAg after our exchange on the OB about his late father. In the conversation I relayed a story to him about a time his dad and I were at a tractor show and man had a home made can crusher on a JD LUC engine off a 12a combine. His dad and I sat there and drank a case of beer with this old fella just to see the cans get crushed, laughing, and carrying on. When we got ready to leave he asked if we were interested in the LUC. I think he wanted 3 or 4 hundred dollars, so we emptied our pockets, were a little short, but the old german fella took what we had and we all laughed while we unbelted the can crusher from our new prize. The LUC is still in his barn and I was thinking that I might just engineer a can crusher. It would bring back a lot of memories.
CanyonAg77
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Try the photos again, I put them on Flickr, rather than rely on TexAgs.

And watching a can crusher work, while drinking beer to feed it, is the most redneck thing I can think of.

If I drank beer, I'd join you. Maybe it would work for Dr Pepper, too.
Centerpole90
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Well, it was a lot of fun and since we were both Baptists, it's not like we could do it at home.

I think you have a Deere 951 wagon running gear.




CanyonAg77
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Wow. Thanks. I think you are correct. Now to figure out the age
Centerpole90
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According to something I read while looking for that, I'd say 30's-early 40's; but I'm just parroting something I saw on the interwebz.

Stay warm out there.
CanyonAg77
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Centerpole90 said:

According to something I read while looking for that, I'd say 30's-early 40's; but I'm just parroting something I saw on the interwebz.

Stay warm out there.
Today warmed up, so we're good.

Yeah, seems like mid-1930s fits. I do appreciate it, your Google skills beat mine. John Deere parts catalog shows you are 100% correct.
stbabs
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A little more old engine porn. I'm getting hooked on these things. This one is a Fairbanks Morse Model Y. Found in a burned out old peanut mill in Mt Enterprise TX.
Trying to convince to owner to donate it so we can display it in Nac's historical village. He's almost 90 but thinks he may do something with it one day. Well, ok, i wanna watch that!!
Thing weighs tons!
It could power the cotton gin I'm restoring but I have an old 1920s vintage Hercules for that.
Enjoy:

Centerpole90
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I want it. Who do I give my money to???
stbabs
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Centerpole90 said:

I want it. Who do I give my money to???
I'm hoping no $$$ needed. Trying to convince the owner that his family name would look nice on a donor plaque.
He keeps giving me a "Lemme think about it."
Hopefully patience pays off..... not my strong suit.
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