I'm pulling out this engine


out of this truck


and this will take it's place...yeah I know it's supposed to be under the hood lulz


I picked up a '02 5.3 with ~45K miles for $500.

Plans include:
-TSP 220/220 112 LSA Cam http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=164&catid=44

-Hardened Pushrods and PAC 1518 valve springs http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=1065&catid=48

-Longtubes for an LS swap http://www.schoenfeldheaders.com/LS1-TRUCK.htm

-Edge Racing torque coverter...3000 stallhttp://www.edgeracingconverters.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12_22&products_id=47

-Standalone harness and tune will be done by my friend who owns Brownspeed in Friendswood http://brownspeed.com/tuning-solutions/

-Detroit Truetrac...it may be a while after the swap when I get one of these

-A longggggg ways down the road I may throw some better heads on it that have some work done to them. Still too broke for that though

Finally the reasons of getting rid of the old engine:
-16 year old technology sucks.
-The 350 TBI is a reliable boat anchor.
-I'm tired of 13 MPG even when I'm babying the skinny pedal.
-I've thrown too much money at the 350 and I've only seen minimal gains.
-Looking to surprise some people with this old slow truck.

Right now I'm stocking up on parts, I probably won't get the actual engine in till early summer when I'm out of school.

I'll update this thread as I update the build thread on my truck forum.


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[This message has been edited by silverado_lover (edited 2/25/2011 10:56a).]

[This message has been edited by silverado_lover (edited 6/18/2011 11:02p).]

ohhhh boy, get the meth lab fired up!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/summerville-ga/TTIPEPSE0NI2GD1R6

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Tuesday Feb 15

There is a few guys, I know of, who go around dealing this garbage and I'm sick of it! The SO knows who at least one of them, at least that's what Larry Kellett said when he was still working at the SO. I KNOW Sheriff Everett knows about this guy and his little dope runners, so PLEASE JOHN do something about this scum! He couldn't be hard to catch, he makes his rounds in that light colored, two door, two wheel drive, silver looking Chevy truck. He may not make people use dope, but he preys on the weak and addicted. It's hurting entire families! I've heard people say he never gets busted because he works for the SO, but how could the SO just let him free wheeling deal?? PLEASE, PLEASE stop this creepy looking old( 50's) white haired man!! If anyone feels like they know this man PLEASE report him!! I know he's hurting more families than just mine. I know his name, but I fear retiribution. Sheriff if you or DTF read this I know you know him, he's been reported. PLEASE stop him and his dope runners!

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Will that 16yo 4L60 take all that fun stuff?

silverado_lover check out gmfullsize.com it is probably the best GM truck/suv forum out there

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/LS3-62L-CrateEngine-19244097-P1897C509.aspx

cmon dude. save your money for some real s***

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Will that 16yo 4L60 take all that fun stuff?

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Hell yeah!

If your going through this much trouble, why not a 6.0L?

Mr. Dubi you did not finish your sentence "Hell yeah with a trans built from hell!"

I see your LS3 and raise you http://www.gmperformancemotor.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=GMP&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=19201990&cvsfa=2547&cvsfe=2&cvsfhu=3139323031393930

I'm on FSC, LS1Truck, and performancetrucks...I don't like GMFS at all. It's a total anarchy...mods don't do jack and I'm not a fan of having the front end of a truck 3" higher than the rear. That seems to be the thing to do on GMFS.

FSC is what I started on...extremely active. I have little over 2,000 posts and been there not quite two years. I'm on LS1Truck and pt.net for the performance aspects...FSC doesn't have many guys that have 10 or 9 second trucks, FSC seems to be about the exterior aspects of the truck. I spend most of my time bs'ing in the whatever section though lmao

You ask why I don't go 6.0...the answer is simple. Money. It costs more to buy and consumes a little bit more gas...this truck is gonna be my daily for a long time. If I ever feel it's not enough power I may throw a turbo on it, I love the sound of a turbo spooling up rool:

I started on FSC and GMFS around the same time, got tired of the bull---- on FSC at the time, this was years ago and have since remained on GMFS.

It seemed there were alot of smartas*** on GMFS to me...now I only reply to threads if the OP hasn't made up his mind on what he's doing, asking a serious question that the search button wouldn't answer easily orrrrrr if a poster is being a total dumba**.

Like yesterday a guy said his cut coils rode better than my Hotchkis coils...I read the thread after I get outta class turns out he called a mod a "fu***** *****" got a ten day ban then emailed another mod cussing him out...so now he's banned for life.

Sometimes I just love trolling :biggrin:

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I've thrown too much money at the 350 and I've only seen minimal gains

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The 350 has been around since the civil war. Are the go fast parts for it not cheap? I would think that parts for the 5.3L are going to be more expensive than a 350.

Seems like a lot of work to save <$500 per year in gas, but I'm excited as h-e-double-hockey-sticks to see the pictures!

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now I only reply to threads if the OP hasn't made up his mind on what he's doing

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The 350 has been around since the civil war. Are the go fast parts for it not cheap? I would think that parts for the 5.3L are going to be more expensive than a 350.

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To build a 350 would be a tad bit cheaper in the short run but in the long run the gas prices would kill me. If I were to build up my 350 I'd have to get new heads cause TBI heads are the worst flowing heads GM ever made...great for real low end torque but nothing else. The cam is extremely small, the fuel injection is basically a fancy carb and isn't efficient at all. To keep it passing inspections I'd have to keep the TBI which means I have to keep the OBDI computer...the closest tuner I've found that could tune my truck is in Oklahoma. So to get real power I'd have to go carbed and say goodbye to any gas mileage I had before.

The TBI 5.7 stock has 210 HP and 300 ft-lb...the 5.3 has 290 HP and 340 ft-lb stock. You start throwing a couple of go fast goodies at a LS engine and they respond much better.

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Seems like a lot of work to save <$500 per year in gas, but I'm excited as h-e-double-hockey-sticks to see the pictures!

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Hahaha its more than just the gas its about teh powa!!! I can't wait to start getting it all together. In the meantime here is a link to my friends build thread doing the same thing and a youtube vid if you don't care about the build just about the end result.

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/general-discussion/projects-builds-restorations/454527-5-7-vortec-5-3-swap.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc7HSVkSnnA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Edit: Here's a vid of my 0-60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz9sBgETnEk&feature=youtube_gdata




[This message has been edited by silverado_lover (edited 2/24/2011 8:41p).]

Little update but doesn't affect the truck directly.

I just setup a time for an interview for a job so if I snatch that I'll have some funding for my project

HEB was hiring baggers?

I can think of half a dozen shops in Texas that can tune that setup. I assume you are talking about driving up to take it to Ed Wright in OK?

There's half a dozen shops in Houston alone that could tune it, I'm taking it to Jake Brown at Brownspeed cause I'm getting a $100 discount from him. When I had thoughts of getting a L31 block and swapping the TBI over I would've taken it to Ed. I've talked to him over the phone once and was extremely helpful.

And no Moody Gardens golf course was hiring.

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[This message has been edited by silverado_lover (edited 3/9/2011 10:25p).]

I was referring to tbi tuning, why are you having any tuning done to the 5.3?

for mad performance yo!

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for mad performance yo!

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You still have to get a tune when ever you throw a cam in a gen III.

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I picked up a '02 5.3 with ~45K miles for $500.

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From those pictures it looks like you got it from a salvage yard that had already pulled the engine. Please tell me you didn't fall for the old "this here motor came out of ~10 year old truck/van that done got wrecked after only 45,000 miles" BS.

A little old lady drove it to and from church and the grocery store...until she hit a tree.

They said they've had that engine for a while just cause the only time they sell a 5.3 is when someone like me who is doing a swap shows up. I looked at all the 5.3's out of the twenty they had and the one that looked to be in the best condition was this one.

Even if the miles aren't true I'm not that worried about it cause these things run forever.

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[This message has been edited by silverado_lover (edited 3/10/2011 9:15a).]

Little update...I finally started ordering parts.

Motor mounts for the swap are in the mail and later on today I'm ordering a transmission adapter so I can hook my LT style 4L60E to the 5.3.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TRD-4572/

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/LS-Series-Flexplate-Kit-12621399-P2399C0.aspx

Dude you should throw one of these in there

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=12865

jk looking forward to updates

[This message has been edited by aggiegator10 (edited 6/2/2011 1:44p).]

Go with a 4L80E or a 6L, the 60's through 70's don't hold enough power. Not that you'll make that much with the 5.3, but in the future you evidently want to boost the horses/torque, so, planning ahead = WINNING!



[This message has been edited by BigRobSA (edited 6/2/2011 3:32p).]

Ditto. I drove 40,000 miles with a malfunctioning torque converter on my 4L80E and while it complained, it kept running.

I know they don't hold as much power but I like the 4L60E better...they rob less power and you get slightly better MPG.

I'm gonna do my best to take it easy on the trans till I get a cam and stall. When I do that I plan on making the trans as tough as possible.

I've also changed my plan for a wiring harness/tune.

I plan on buying a standalone harness and a PCM with EGR and VAT's tuned out from psiconversion.

When I get my exhaust hooked up I'm going to take my truck over to Wheatley and get a wideband tune.

Look forward to updating this thread with pics!

Crappy pic but last weekend I got my headers, fuel line fittings, some AN hose, and a fuel pump that will be able to support 60 PSI instead of my stock fuel pump that puts out a staggering 13 PSI.

Next purchase will be an A/C bracket and some ceramic coating on the headers done by mustang6tee8.

With the 5.3, you need 45-50 psi or it probably won't turn over. 60psi is best.

That's why I got the new fuel pump