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6:46p, 9/12/21
AG
You can go ahead and start releasing to lower lake levels. Thanks in advance.

Sincerely, Kingwood.
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Al Bula
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7:07p, 9/12/21
AG
Lake Conroe:

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P.H. Dexippus
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7:44p, 9/12/21
AG
Don't worry. 3" average runoff over the Lake Houston drainage basin would only fill a completely empty Lake Houston 55 times. I'm sure Lake Conroe will make the difference.
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AgLiving06
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7:50p, 9/12/21
Conroe is at least 2 feet below conservation level and I don't think they are expected to get much out of this.
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Milwaukees Best Light
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8:26p, 9/12/21
AG
How bout you point some fingers at the sand barons? Has the sand lobby gotten to you already?
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Al Bula
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In reply to Milwaukees Best Light • 9:21p, 9/12/21
AG
Milwaukees Best Light said:
How bout you point some fingers at the sand barons? Has the sand lobby gotten to you already?
publicly traded sand baron?!
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9:33p, 9/12/21
AG
Where's 94chem?

Maybe he's already lining up a few hundred lawsuits for those evil Lake Conroe dwellers.
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9:35p, 9/12/21
AG
It's definitely, definitely a good idea to fill your river system with water right before a biblical flood.

That will definitely, definitely fix everything.
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94chem
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In reply to P.H. Dexippus • 10:05p, 9/12/21
Mr. AGSPRT04 said:
Don't worry. 3" average runoff over the Lake Houston drainage basin would only fill a completely empty Lake Houston 55 times. I'm sure Lake Conroe will make the difference.
Wow, you're back. I guess your client didn't want you posting on the other thread any more? I'm guessing your client knows what 36" would do as well, huh? Don't worry, I've never been in a single suit. And I know your job is merely to sow doubt and to protect your client. Pretty easy job in this case, and I'm sure you've earned your keep.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
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10:23p, 9/12/21
AG
I drove down 105 today and put some WD-40 on the dam gates
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Stat Monitor Repairman
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10:26p, 9/12/21
Publicly traded money baby!

#neverforget
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P.H. Dexippus
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In reply to 94chem • 10:31p, 9/12/21
AG
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In reply to P.H. Dexippus • 10:32p, 9/12/21
AG
Mr. AGSPRT04 said:
Don't worry. 3" average runoff over the Lake Houston drainage basin would only fill a completely empty Lake Houston 55 times. I'm sure Lake Conroe will make the difference.


I have no dog in this fight, but I'm wondering why you post if lake Houston was empty stats. Lake Houston has never been empty ( maybe dinosaurs days… rhaaarrr!). Why not state actual data of real world happenings?
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P.H. Dexippus
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In reply to 94chem • 10:36p, 9/12/21
AG
My client was dismissed long ago, thanks for following up on it. I'm sorry math hurts.
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P.H. Dexippus
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In reply to Tabasco • 10:36p, 9/12/21
AG
Tabasco said:
Mr. AGSPRT04 said:
Don't worry. 3" average runoff over the Lake Houston drainage basin would only fill a completely empty Lake Houston 55 times. I'm sure Lake Conroe will make the difference.


I have no dog in this fight, but I'm wondering why you post if lake Houston was empty stats. Lake Houston has never been empty ( maybe dinosaurs days… rhaaarrr!). Why not state actual data of real world happenings?
You think Lake Houston is prehistoric?
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10:45p, 9/12/21
AG
Would be curious how much Lake Conroe matters when you have all that water from Cypress and Bridgelands headed east with nothing to really slow it.
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P.H. Dexippus
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In reply to Tabasco • 10:55p, 9/12/21
AG
The reason I used the completely empty Lake Houston example is to point out that no amount of preemptory lowering of Lake Houston (or preloading the tributaries) is going to create enough freeboard capacity to make any meaningful difference in the event of a direct hit by a tropical storm. Man-made Lake Houston was designed as a drinking water reservoir, not as a flood control installation (contrary to the mandate of the San Jacinto River Authority).

Houston Public Works policy now mandates lowering the lake by 1 foot, or 11,854 acre/feet, in the event or a 3" or greater rain event. Lake Houston is fed by nearly 2,500 square miles (1.6MM acres) of increasingly developed land. As you can see, it's a drop in the bucket in an broad impact event.
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In reply to P.H. Dexippus • 2:38a, 9/13/21
AG
All this at the risk of draining increasing valuable drinking water for the nation's 4th largest city.
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In reply to P.H. Dexippus • 6:44a, 9/13/21
AG
The newly constructed Hwy 99-grand parkway will have a major impact slowing down flood water from the north and east of Lake Houston. They basically built a huge dam.
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7:11a, 9/13/21
AG
Only emotionally reactive people believe lowering Lake Houston makes a damned bit of difference.
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In reply to FHKChE07 • 7:12a, 9/13/21
AG
FHKChE07 said:
All this at the risk of draining increasing valuable drinking water for the nation's 4th largest city.


Considering we have Lake Conroe, and live in a typically wet environment, I think we'll be okay. We're not Los Angeles or South Africa where they don't get much rain normally.
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In reply to CDUB98 • 7:30a, 9/13/21
AG
Generally, I agree with you but we have a short memory because it wasn't so long ago that we were in a multi year drought. Before the memorial day floods there were talks about shutting down the last boat ramp at lake Travis. Estimates are we lost over 6 million hundreds of trees because of lack of water.
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In reply to FHKChE07 • 7:36a, 9/13/21
FHKChE07 said:
over 6 million hundreds of trees


What kind of common core bull**** number is this?
Username checks out.
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7:37a, 9/13/21
Lake Conroe killed 6 million hundreds of trees in Austin.
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In reply to I Am A Critic • 7:51a, 9/13/21
AG
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In reply to I Am A Critic • 7:56a, 9/13/21
AG
Sorry. I thought it was hundreds of thousands but I looked it up because you people are pedantic and didn't edit correctly. Estimates are over 6 million trees across the area.
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8:52a, 9/13/21
AG
What does the water level in Lake Travis have to do with drinking water in Houston?
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In reply to YellAg2004 • 8:59a, 9/13/21
AG
The whole state was under a drought and drinking water was at a premium. I was just using lake Travis as an example.
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9:26a, 9/13/21
AG
Lake Conroe isn't a flood control lake. Just a reservoir. Will have almost zero impact lowering it. Plus lake Conroe is only a fraction of the lake Houston watershed. Will do virtually nothing.
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In reply to Howdy Dammit • 9:28a, 9/13/21
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Howdy Dammit said:
Lake Conroe isn't a flood control lake. Just a reservoir. Will have almost zero impact lowering it. Plus lake Conroe is only a fraction of the lake Houston watershed. Will do virtually nothing.
Shhhh!!!!! Don't let logic into a good rant.
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In reply to Howdy Dammit • 9:48a, 9/13/21
AG
I tried for a couple of years after Harvey to no avail.
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9:55a, 9/13/21
It's the mask mandate of flood mitigations.
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In reply to chimpanzee • 10:05a, 9/13/21
AG
It really is! I think I remember that my calcs showed that at peak flows, Lake Houston would have filled up in like 8 minutes. It is really hard to comprehend the amount of water that was pouring from the sky.
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10:19a, 9/13/21
AG
This thread definitely delivers
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In reply to FHKChE07 • 10:22a, 9/13/21
FHKChE07 said:
It really is! I think I remember that my calcs showed that at peak flows, Lake Houston would have filled up in like 8 minutes. It is really hard to comprehend the amount of water that was pouring from the sky.

Lake Houston is a funnel with a giant restrictor plate (1960 bridge) in the middle of it. Serious people would have come up with something by now beyond some proposed gates that four years later are inching along the mother-may-I, federal funding route.

Unless the output of the new gates comes close to the flood stage inputs, the math isn't in anyone upstream's favor.

I still want an LA river style massive paved ditch with a straight shot from the dam to the bay.
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