CoachRTM said:
I don't hate Hidalgo as much as most of you. I believe she thinks she's doing the right thing, and I'm ok with respecting people with different opinions than my own.
That being said, can we discuss how ridiculous this signature is? It's not like this was an unimportant letter than she just signed in a hurry.
The band-aid being ripped off is for us to go to 100% open. You're already seeing people freak out. My opinion is based on what helps the whole country get back to normal the fastest. By going from 25->100, you're basically taking the people who are freaking out and put them in a defensive position that's going to cause this whole thing to drag out even longer.Diggity said:what band-aid is being ripped off here? These people are still able to stay at home, or not.CoachRTM said:
I know too many people that have been stuck in their house for a year now.... barely every leaving the house. COVID and the response to it was always going to cause a ton of anxiety and mental issues as we opened back up.... ripping the band-aid off all at once doesn't seem like the right decision here to me.if you truly believe this, you are basically conceding the mandate is political theater...so why are you upset about it being lifted?Quote:
I personally think masks are useless and mostly just emotion theater to make people feel better
I understand that. I guess I just don't see the harm in "two more weeks" (did that on purpose) or a step-up approach. I think this extends the issue as you're going to see people be aggressively against this opening,.... whereas if you opened to 50-75% and just started stepping up towards full-open the pushback wouldn't be nearly as strong and you'd see more widespread adoption.TXTransplant said:
I was where you are up at the start of this up until about the end of last summer. At that point, the fear mongering and use of it to control certain behaviors just became too much.
Sure, we are supposedly just a few weeks away from everyone having the ability to be vaccinated. But we know that not everyone is going to be vaccinated.
It's time to let people who have been vaccinated, have immunity from a previous infection, or have assessed their risk and have determined it is not significant enough to alter their every day life get back to business as usual and start recovering from the damage that has been done.
Everyone else can continue to isolate, socially distance, and wear masks. We should not be altering our lives this significantly for worst case scenario for even one minute longer.
No. Try re-reading.Bassmaster said:
You think masks are useless, but we should be required to wear them? Ridiculously terrible take.
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There are still people that desperately want the vaccine (I know some in the 1A/1B category) that are unable to get the shot yet. I think that we should have at least cleared that group before going 100%, but that's just me.
CoachRTM said:The band-aid being ripped off is for us to go to 100% open. You're already seeing people freak out. My opinion is based on what helps the whole country get back to normal the fastest. By going from 25->100, you're basically taking the people who are freaking out and put them in a defensive position that's going to cause this whole thing to drag out even longer.Diggity said:what band-aid is being ripped off here? These people are still able to stay at home, or not.CoachRTM said:
I know too many people that have been stuck in their house for a year now.... barely every leaving the house. COVID and the response to it was always going to cause a ton of anxiety and mental issues as we opened back up.... ripping the band-aid off all at once doesn't seem like the right decision here to me.if you truly believe this, you are basically conceding the mandate is political theater...so why are you upset about it being lifted?Quote:
I personally think masks are useless and mostly just emotion theater to make people feel better
Yes, the mask is political theater. I wouldn't have done that if I was in charge at the beginning. Being that we are there now, what is the best way to get us out of it? I think a slower approach would have been better.
TXTransplant said:CoachRTM said:The band-aid being ripped off is for us to go to 100% open. You're already seeing people freak out. My opinion is based on what helps the whole country get back to normal the fastest. By going from 25->100, you're basically taking the people who are freaking out and put them in a defensive position that's going to cause this whole thing to drag out even longer.Diggity said:what band-aid is being ripped off here? These people are still able to stay at home, or not.CoachRTM said:
I know too many people that have been stuck in their house for a year now.... barely every leaving the house. COVID and the response to it was always going to cause a ton of anxiety and mental issues as we opened back up.... ripping the band-aid off all at once doesn't seem like the right decision here to me.if you truly believe this, you are basically conceding the mandate is political theater...so why are you upset about it being lifted?Quote:
I personally think masks are useless and mostly just emotion theater to make people feel better
Yes, the mask is political theater. I wouldn't have done that if I was in charge at the beginning. Being that we are there now, what is the best way to get us out of it? I think a slower approach would have been better.
We should have gone back to businesses 100% open months ago. The businesses that have had their capacity restricted are not "essential businesses", meaning anyone who was agitated of Covid could have easily avoided them in the first place. There was no reason to put govt restrictions in place to keep people "safe".
Example - gyms and exercise classes. If you are so afraid of covid, then you have absolutely no business going to a gym or exercise class. Masks and reduced capacity aren't going to protect you. All the restrictions did was put a huge strain on businesses - particularly small businesses - and cause hardship for the business owners, employees, and customers.
Another example - Disneyland/World. DL has been closed for a year now. Again, if you are high risk or that afraid of covid, DON'T GO THERE! There was absolutely no reason for the govt to shut down an entire industry (at least in CA).
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There are still people that desperately want the vaccine (I know some in the 1A/1B category) that are unable to get the shot yet. I think that we should have at least cleared that group before going 100%, but that's just me.
We're never gonna clear a whole group. At some point you have move forward
Because honestly I don't see how they haven't gotten it if they are in indeed in that group. I've personally heard of people not in those groups getting it because vaccine places can't fill all their slots and they need to use it up.
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Dear HISD Parents:
As we move into the spring, we want to provide an update on protocols surrounding COVID-19 and HISD.
We are aware of Governor Greg Abbott's announcement to lift the statewide mask mandate. The Houston Independent School District will continue to require all students, staff, and visitors to wear masks on district property and at district events. This requirement is consistent with the advice of health professionals and guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
CoachRTM said:Ag_07 said:Quote:
There are still people that desperately want the vaccine (I know some in the 1A/1B category) that are unable to get the shot yet. I think that we should have at least cleared that group before going 100%, but that's just me.
We're never gonna clear a whole group. At some point you have move forward
Because honestly I don't see how they haven't gotten it if they are in indeed in that group. I've personally heard of people not in those groups getting it because vaccine places can't fill all their slots and they need to use it up.
Two different issues here.
My father in-law is 64 and a cancer survivor. He is unable to sign up because the slots are full. There are no open slots in his area.
Vaccines are going to waste because people aren't showing up for their appointments, and the vaccine goes bad after leaving refrigeration.
T Durden said:TXTransplant said:CoachRTM said:The band-aid being ripped off is for us to go to 100% open. You're already seeing people freak out. My opinion is based on what helps the whole country get back to normal the fastest. By going from 25->100, you're basically taking the people who are freaking out and put them in a defensive position that's going to cause this whole thing to drag out even longer.Diggity said:what band-aid is being ripped off here? These people are still able to stay at home, or not.CoachRTM said:
I know too many people that have been stuck in their house for a year now.... barely every leaving the house. COVID and the response to it was always going to cause a ton of anxiety and mental issues as we opened back up.... ripping the band-aid off all at once doesn't seem like the right decision here to me.if you truly believe this, you are basically conceding the mandate is political theater...so why are you upset about it being lifted?Quote:
I personally think masks are useless and mostly just emotion theater to make people feel better
Yes, the mask is political theater. I wouldn't have done that if I was in charge at the beginning. Being that we are there now, what is the best way to get us out of it? I think a slower approach would have been better.
We should have gone back to businesses 100% open months ago. The businesses that have had their capacity restricted are not "essential businesses", meaning anyone who was agitated of Covid could have easily avoided them in the first place. There was no reason to put govt restrictions in place to keep people "safe".
Example - gyms and exercise classes. If you are so afraid of covid, then you have absolutely no business going to a gym or exercise class. Masks and reduced capacity aren't going to protect you. All the restrictions did was put a huge strain on businesses - particularly small businesses - and cause hardship for the business owners, employees, and customers.
Another example - Disneyland/World. DL has been closed for a year now. Again, if you are high risk or that afraid of covid, DON'T GO THERE! There was absolutely no reason for the govt to shut down an entire industry (at least in CA).
Have you SEEN the number of obese people riding scooters at Disney?
Diggity said:CoachRTM said:Ag_07 said:Quote:
There are still people that desperately want the vaccine (I know some in the 1A/1B category) that are unable to get the shot yet. I think that we should have at least cleared that group before going 100%, but that's just me.
We're never gonna clear a whole group. At some point you have move forward
Because honestly I don't see how they haven't gotten it if they are in indeed in that group. I've personally heard of people not in those groups getting it because vaccine places can't fill all their slots and they need to use it up.
Two different issues here.
My father in-law is 64 and a cancer survivor. He is unable to sign up because the slots are full. There are no open slots in his area.
Vaccines are going to waste because people aren't showing up for their appointments, and the vaccine goes bad after leaving refrigeration.
We went through the same with my dad until a few weeks ago. It's a pain, but you have to jump on the websites when they open up. My wife keeps an eye on these lists through her little mom's group. I can give you a heads up next time I hear of something.
As far as "wasted vaccine", I haven't read anything about his being a wide spread issues. The folks administering these vaccines typically have backup plans for no-shows.
TXTransplant said:Diggity said:CoachRTM said:Ag_07 said:Quote:
There are still people that desperately want the vaccine (I know some in the 1A/1B category) that are unable to get the shot yet. I think that we should have at least cleared that group before going 100%, but that's just me.
We're never gonna clear a whole group. At some point you have move forward
Because honestly I don't see how they haven't gotten it if they are in indeed in that group. I've personally heard of people not in those groups getting it because vaccine places can't fill all their slots and they need to use it up.
Two different issues here.
My father in-law is 64 and a cancer survivor. He is unable to sign up because the slots are full. There are no open slots in his area.
Vaccines are going to waste because people aren't showing up for their appointments, and the vaccine goes bad after leaving refrigeration.
We went through the same with my dad until a few weeks ago. It's a pain, but you have to jump on the websites when they open up. My wife keeps an eye on these lists through her little mom's group. I can give you a heads up next time I hear of something.
As far as "wasted vaccine", I haven't read anything about his being a wide spread issues. The folks administering these vaccines typically have backup plans for no-shows.
This is where I think we've failed the highest risk population, particularly the elderly. My friend has a 96 year old grandmother who still hasn't been vaccinated because she lives in an independent living facility (and not assisted care). She doesn't have the means to even schedule a vaccine appointment, much less get to one. But because her facility is independent and not assisted living, she can't get a vaccine brought to her. And she's not allowed to have visitors, so no one can go get her to take her.
Thankfully, a family friend (grandma lives in another state) offered to make the appt if the facility will transport her there.
CoachRTM said:
So, here's my opinion that will probably get drowned out by the 10-1 ratio of people that disagree with me on this thread. I'm a "moderate" so sometimes I feel like a crazy person on this red-heavy site, even though I've voted for 10 times as many R's as D's.
Thoughts and prayers for you.
Diggity said:CoachRTM said:Ag_07 said:Quote:
There are still people that desperately want the vaccine (I know some in the 1A/1B category) that are unable to get the shot yet. I think that we should have at least cleared that group before going 100%, but that's just me.
We're never gonna clear a whole group. At some point you have move forward
Because honestly I don't see how they haven't gotten it if they are in indeed in that group. I've personally heard of people not in those groups getting it because vaccine places can't fill all their slots and they need to use it up.
Two different issues here.
My father in-law is 64 and a cancer survivor. He is unable to sign up because the slots are full. There are no open slots in his area.
Vaccines are going to waste because people aren't showing up for their appointments, and the vaccine goes bad after leaving refrigeration.
We went through the same with my dad until a few weeks ago. It's a pain, but you have to jump on the websites when they open up. My wife keeps an eye on these lists through her little mom's group. I can give you a heads up next time I hear of something.
As far as "wasted vaccine", I haven't read anything about his being a wide spread issue. The folks administering these vaccines typically have backup plans for no-shows.
How sassy of you. You go girl.CoachRTM said:
I understand that. I guess I just don't see the harm in "two more weeks" (did that on purpose)
Diggity said:
I think the issue was that, while elderly were first in line, it was during the period where vaccine rollout was just starting and logistical issues made it tough to find in many areas. As we got better of distributing the vaccine on a local level, they went ahead and opened to vaccine to more groups.
I can see the argument for getting the vaccine in as many arms as possible, but they should have created a better system for the most "at risk" group to get vaccinated, without having to rely on local providers (or a hope and a prayer of getting picked through the online systems).
CoachRTM said:Diggity said:CoachRTM said:Ag_07 said:Quote:
There are still people that desperately want the vaccine (I know some in the 1A/1B category) that are unable to get the shot yet. I think that we should have at least cleared that group before going 100%, but that's just me.
We're never gonna clear a whole group. At some point you have move forward
Because honestly I don't see how they haven't gotten it if they are in indeed in that group. I've personally heard of people not in those groups getting it because vaccine places can't fill all their slots and they need to use it up.
Two different issues here.
My father in-law is 64 and a cancer survivor. He is unable to sign up because the slots are full. There are no open slots in his area.
Vaccines are going to waste because people aren't showing up for their appointments, and the vaccine goes bad after leaving refrigeration.
We went through the same with my dad until a few weeks ago. It's a pain, but you have to jump on the websites when they open up. My wife keeps an eye on these lists through her little mom's group. I can give you a heads up next time I hear of something.
As far as "wasted vaccine", I haven't read anything about his being a wide spread issue. The folks administering these vaccines typically have backup plans for no-shows.
I appreciate it, but I think they have a plan of attack. My wife is jumping in and helping. I think he (and most others) will get processed in the next couple weeks.
I just think that getting the over 65 group (1A) and major pre-existing conditions group (1B) should be given a reasonable chance to get vaccinated before we go 100% and maskless. Whether or not it has a big impact on what happens, it's going to help the country not go as crazy when grandma/grandpa had the chance to get the shot compared to now where a bunch of them still have not through no fault of their own.
Diggity said:Quote:
Dear HISD Parents:
As we move into the spring, we want to provide an update on protocols surrounding COVID-19 and HISD.
We are aware of Governor Greg Abbott's announcement to lift the statewide mask mandate. The Houston Independent School District will continue to require all students, staff, and visitors to wear masks on district property and at district events. This requirement is consistent with the advice of health professionals and guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
I think all the large school districts are doing this. It is a cover your ass approachTXTransplant said:Diggity said:Quote:
Dear HISD Parents:
As we move into the spring, we want to provide an update on protocols surrounding COVID-19 and HISD.
We are aware of Governor Greg Abbott's announcement to lift the statewide mask mandate. The Houston Independent School District will continue to require all students, staff, and visitors to wear masks on district property and at district events. This requirement is consistent with the advice of health professionals and guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Tomball ISD punted to TEA. Said nothing will change until they get guidance from TEA
