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Al Bula
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Bleach is already sold out ITL. Media fears rioting in Katy. Contraflow starts at 10PM tonight.
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RPM said:

Bleach is already sold out ITL. Media fears rioting in Katy. Contraflow starts at 10PM tonight.


88jrt06
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Tonight, our nation stands behind Katy, united.
(Please translate to the dominant regional languages)...

Run, Sorest, Run!
Ag_07
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I'm gonna on and say no and no.

Think I can get a job on TV?
dallasag00
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How is Friendswood? Did anyone survive?
Ronnie
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Go back to Dallas
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What a bunch of chicken littles. I ain't gonna panic until Frankie tells me to.
Cromagnum
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Still looking like a feast or famine of rain depending where this blob winds up going.
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Info from our company weather guy said the large rains will be well east of the center (wherever it lands), so most likely LA and AL will get hit hard
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Tropical storm likely in the Gulf of Mexico this weeka threat to the US Gulf coast

Discussion:
Disorganized tropical wave axis across the eastern Yucatan into the southern Gulf of Mexico this morning has shown little evidence of becoming any better defined overnight. Surface wind analysis shows more of an elongated trough axis than any sort of surface low. Deep convection has been firing across the western Caribbean waters much of the night, but this is well east of the sharp trough axis. The trough has become slightly better defined near the northern coast of the Yucatan where models have been suggesting for days a surface low will form.

Additionally, the upper trough over the NW Gulf of Mexico continues to produce strong shear across the central Gulf and the northern portions of the tropical wave axis. Deep tropical moisture is quickly advancing northward across the eastern gulf.

Track:
While it has been most frustrating watching the most reliable global weather forecasting computer models there is a slow but steady growing consensus on the track of this system. The complicated setup of steering flow across the Gulf of Mexico is the reason for the large spread in the model guidance with each model having its particular favored choice of which atmospheric circulation will ultimately drive the system toward the US Gulf coast. These factors include:

1) A trough over the northern Gulf coast which is fracturing and will form a weakness or upper level low over the western Gulf
2) Building sub-tropical high pressure ridges from both the SW US and the SW Atlantic.
3) A trough of low pressure over the Great Lakes

It is becoming more defined that the dominant steering pattern will evolve around the fracturing and development of an upper level low over the western Gulf of Mexico over the next 24-48 hours with 93L moving northward along the eastern flank of this large scale circulation. In fact there is enough evidence in the model guidance to suggest these two circulations actually interact more and more creating varied solutions. There is general agreement that the sharp trough axis will drift WNW today with a surface low likely forming somewhere within the northern portion of this axis and moving generally N to NNW along the eastern side of the developing upper trough over the western Gulf. This motion will continue on Tuesday as the system moves into the central Gulf of Mexico, but track guidance then becomes split with the GFS tracking 93L NNW toward southern Louisiana while the ECMWF turns 93L almost due west and toward the middle TX coast by Thursday. The CMC is down the middle tracking the system toward the upper TX coast by Thursday. The key to the track will be how much influence the developing upper trough over the western Gulf has over the developing surface low.

There is enough consensus this morning to suggest that the threat for a landfalling tropical storm on the Texas/Louisiana coasts sometime from late Wednesday into late Thursday is likely.

Intensity:
93L is highly disorganized and the atmospheric setup in the Gulf of Mexico does not look very favorable for intensification. Tropical cyclones can and at times do interact with upper level troughs like the one which is forecast to be in the western Gulf this week. The surface low on the eastern side of the large scale trough must find its way into the favorable venting portion of the trough or shear will have a negative effect on the surface low. What is interesting is that several of the global and now meso scale models show such a shearing environment across the central Gulf and then actually show decent upper air conditions as the system nears the coast. Both the high resolution NAM and CMC show a fairly symmetrical system in their 54-84 hours time periods while the GFS and ECMWF show a much more elongated and lopsided presentation.

Several Gulf of Mexico tropical systems have formed in this manner and the end result is almost always a flood event somewhere along and east of the track of a broad ill defined center.

Impacts:
Will raise seas on Tuesday to 3-4 feet across our 20-60nm waters with NHC forecasting 8-12 feet approaching our outer waters on Wednesday. Increasing tides will be possible as early as Wednesday, but will keep them below 2.0 feet total water for now. Addition of larger easterly swell onto the coast on Wednesday will likely start to pile up the water to some degree. It would seem that rain chances need to be raised to at least 50% late Wednesday and this may need additional adjusting upward. Don't want to get much more specific with impacts at this point until either there is some guidance from NHC or the model track solutions firm up more. A track of the system toward Louisiana would result in a fairly dry and hot forecast for our area while a track toward the TX coast would result in a certainly more wet forecast.

Significant forecast changes may be required for the Wed-Fri period.

Persons along the TX/LA coasts should closely monitor the progress of 93L and be prepared for adverse conditions to potentially begin impacting the coast as early as midday Wednesday.


I'm flying with my wife 12:30 out of Hobby on Friday then connecting for our flight to Frankfurt for our first real trip post-kids. I really hope this doesn't screw this up.
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Getting married in Corpus this weekend. Really hoping this storm misses us
Buck O Five
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New Orleans to Destin likely to get major rain no matter the path
Al Bula
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The commute in from the west side was bad this morning. I snapped some pics. T&P for the weekend carnage.

Here is the I10 feeder at Bunker Hill.



And the lines were literally out the door at the Bunker Hill HEB. Those poor SAHM moms of the villages are SOL!



Red Cross is set up at Jack Rhodes Memorial Stadium. Those poor Katy Tigers won't be able to practice for 7-on-7 during the med-evac operation.



zgood10
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#KatyStrong
jetch17
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mother f*** if this thing churns up when were due to go to Port A for a week on Friday
Cromagnum
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jetch17 said:

mother f*** if this thing churns up when were due to go to Part A for a week on Friday


SlackerAg
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This is bad timing; driving to Destin this week.
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SlackerAg said:

This is bad timing; driving to Destin this week.
You screwed
Ag_07
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SlackerAg said:

This is bad timing; driving to Destin this week.

Not anymore
schmendeler
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A good current situation analysis
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Thanks for the link,
98Ag99Grad
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DP
JJxvi
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Who wrote that, calling it a "tropical storm" in a general sense when that is a defined term for a stronger storm?
Ag_07
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Little more in-depth scientific analysis if anyone is interested.

Discussion on this particular system begins at 5:53



TLDW...The two popular models are still disagreeing but showing a slight bit of agreement that the system will swing west. Either way heavy rain expected to the east and north of the system. LA/MS gonna get f'ed up either way.
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Furlock Bones
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need to make sure my house closes before the floods
GoneGirl
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Furlock Bones said:

need to make sure my house closes before the floods
When we were closing on our house in CS, we were sitting in the title company boardroom watching the weather. There was a tornado very near the house.

I freaked out. My husband calmly noted - don't worry, if it hits the house before we close it's not our problem. If it hits after, we have insurance, and none of our stuff is in it.
88jrt06
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TxElsie said:

Furlock Bones said:

need to make sure my house closes before the floods
When we were closing on our house in CS, we were sitting in the title company boardroom watching the weather. There was a tornado very near the house.

I freaked out. My husband calmly noted - don't worry, if it hits the house before we close it's not our problem. If it hits after, we have insurance, and none of our stuff is in it.
Then it hit the title company office?
AgLA06
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Furlock Bones said:

need to make sure my house closes before the floods


If I remember correctly, they put a hold on closings if a major storm or flooding is expected within so many days of closing. Then they have to re-appraise the structure for damage. It held one of our closings up a couple of weeks for the memorial day floods.
Cromagnum
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Well, I'm headed to home depot to pick up plywood and bleach. How many hours is it recommended to soak the wood in bleach in the bathtub prior to putting it on my windows for maximum effectiveness?
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nickstro66 said:

Getting married in Corpus this weekend. Really hoping this storm misses us
getting married during hurricane season at a beach town
CDUB98
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getting married
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Cromagnum said:

Well, I'm headed to home depot to pick up plywood and bleach. How many hours is it recommended to soak the wood in bleach in the bathtub prior to putting it on my windows for maximum effectiveness?


Hours? I've been bleach pre-soaking since the 2016 season ended in November. You might as well not not waste the bleach and look ahead to 2018. May God be with you.
ClickClack
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The bleach is for purifying the water, numbskulls. Just take a big swig of the post-flood water and chase with equal parts bleach. Should be good to go.

That's why it's so important to stock up on bleach. If you're consuming a gallon of water a day, that's a gallon of bleach needed for every day per person. Go to Sams now.
 
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