Holy sh^t. Good freaking lord at the development in Frisco.

Wife and I were putting around yesterday and decided to go north (we live in North Dallas so rarely get above 635) to check out the new Legacy West development. Legacy West was pretty badass and did not at all feel like anything else in Dallas. Couldn't help but notice the Klipsch speakers on every signpost pumping nice music throughout the whole area. We were laughing that Legacy East probably feels like the rundown neighborhood next door now that West is up and running.

We then drove down Headquarters Drive to check out Toyota and then over to The Star. We crested a hill on the backside of some neighborhood and you could see homes for mile and miles to the horizon. Absolutely incredible. I had no idea that area is this developed now.

Back in 2002-04 the tollway literally ended at Legacy Drive and was grass beyond it. And now...just unbelievable.

The transformation from farm land to one of the hottest development sites in the world. KDC (master developer of almost all of that area) did a great job there and their dump trucks full of money show it.

Ross Perot's original vision of the Legacy project was to create a second downtown as a north cap to the Tollway. That's precisely what is happening.

Check out Legacy Hall. A upscale food court.

What makes Legacy West cool is that it feels different that all the me-too developments. Yes there are a slew of chain stores but the whole thing was done really well.

I have a client there. And they said it is a huge draw when recruiting young people for their company. Compared to Richardson or Irving, it is hip.

We walked through Legacy Hall. Pretty damn cool. It's way more intimate that I imagined. It reminded of the indoor market in Napa or the Fisherman's Wharf market in SFO. Sits in between the two in size.

All of DFW is booming. I grew up in north Irving by the Airport and most areas are unrecognizable from 20 years ago. Dad's experienced even more change as MacArthur Blvd was then a two lane blacktop named Carpenter Road and he grew up by the old Texas Stadium.

That Frisco area is quite nice. Not anywhere I'd ever want to live but fun to visit. We love west Fort Worth since it hasn't been built up quite yet so we get to live in a quiet, rural area that's still 20 minutes from downtown.

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We walked through Legacy Hall. Pretty damn cool. It's way more intimate that I imagined. It reminded of the indoor market in Napa or the Fisherman's Wharf market in SFO. Sits in between the two in size.

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We were there Friday for a concert in the new Box Garden. It's an outdoor courtyard with balconies off Legacy Hall overlooking. Seats 1500 and will have live music some days throughout the week and both nights on weekends.

I got a job with the Collin County DA's office in 2001. One of my first assignments was to go out and prosecute cases in the Frisco JP court once a week. At that time, I'd drive down 121 to Preston before turning north to go to the JP court building. At that time, just 17 years ago, the 121-Preston intersection was two lanes each way, with a flashing yellow light as the only traffic control device. Just grass all around it. Mind-boggling what it has become in a relatively short period of time.

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I couldn't imagine living in overpopulated South Oklahoma and my only way in or out is a tollway.

Funny that's what DFW is refered to as by folks in SA and HOU southern Oklahoma.

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You're not old school Collin co/Frisco unless youve been to the Royal, swam in the Rock pits off 12/Custer and can name at least one of the unspeakable places on 121

Michelle's Ranch!

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I remember the tub clubs still being a topic of some conversation in the office when I first started.

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I couldn't imagine living in overpopulated South Oklahoma and my only way in or out is a tollway.

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If you think Frisco is overpopulated where the heck do you live?

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If you think Frisco is overpopulated where the heck do you live?

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Not sure about him, but western Tarrant County is thankfully not yet overdeveloped. I grew up in and started my career in Dallas County but would never want to live on that side of DFW again.

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My house is in central Plano and is 40 years old. I assume my neighborhood was one of the first in Plano as all custom homes and my lot is well over 1/2 acre.

My employer moved into the two large office buildings on the north end of legacy west in February. This is easily the nicest area that I've ever worked in. I wouldn't be surprised to see more Dallas companies move up this way.

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Not sure about him, but western Tarrant County is thankfully not yet overdeveloped. I grew up in and started my career in Dallas County but would never want to live on that side of DFW again.

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I'm not entirely sure how a city with thousands of acres of ranch land is considered overdeveloped but ok.

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Not sure about him, but western Tarrant County is thankfully not yet overdeveloped. I grew up in and started my career in Dallas County but would never want to live on that side of DFW again.

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I'm not entirely sure how a city with thousands of acres of ranch land is considered overdeveloped but ok.

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Where is that ranch land? All up north. Sure seems pretty developed going North up through the Tollway and all around 121. I don't get that way often - the Frisco baseball tournament this spring was my first time up there in a decade - but the shear amount of development was dizzying. The Alliance / I35 corridor here in Tarrant County is similar (and a big reason we moved out of Keller 5 years ago).

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We walked through Legacy Hall. Pretty damn cool. It's way more intimate that I imagined. It reminded of the indoor market in Napa or the Fisherman's Wharf market in SFO. Sits in between the two in size.

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We were there Friday for a concert in the new Box Garden. It's an outdoor courtyard with balconies off Legacy Hall overlooking. Seats 1500 and will have live music some days throughout the week and both nights on weekends.

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Did you drink any of their beer? What did you think?

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Funny that's what DFW is refered to as by folks in SA and HOU southern Oklahoma.

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We walked through Legacy Hall. Pretty damn cool. It's way more intimate that I imagined. It reminded of the indoor market in Napa or the Fisherman's Wharf market in SFO. Sits in between the two in size.

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We were there Friday for a concert in the new Box Garden. It's an outdoor courtyard with balconies off Legacy Hall overlooking. Seats 1500 and will have live music some days throughout the week and both nights on weekends.

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Did you drink any of their beer? What did you think?

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We did. We started at the bar on the second floor for beer. Good stuff. Had dinner at Haywire. REALLY good stuff. The venue was fun, but I'm too old to stand for concerts.

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I couldn't imagine living in overpopulated South Oklahoma and my only way in or out is a tollway.

Funny that's what DFW is refered to as by folks in SA and HOU southern Oklahoma.

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I live in DFW. Aka southern ok

Doll house; Michelle's ranch, 121 tub club, Darla's shall I go on...

What about burger fixins in celina?

I will say though, the Royal is a throwback.

Was at Haywire on Sunday night. Saw some grungy Austin band while I drank wine with my pinky in the air.

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I couldn't imagine living in overpopulated South Oklahoma and my only way in or out is a tollway.

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Not sure about him, but western Tarrant County is thankfully not yet overdeveloped. I grew up in and started my career in Dallas County but would never want to live on that side of DFW again.

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I'm not entirely sure how a city with thousands of acres of ranch land is considered overdeveloped but ok.

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Where is that ranch land? All up north. Sure seems pretty developed going North up through the Tollway and all around 121. I don't get that way often - the Frisco baseball tournament this spring was my first time up there in a decade - but the shear amount of development was dizzying. The Alliance / I35 corridor here in Tarrant County is similar (and a big reason we moved out of Keller 5 years ago).

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There's a buttload of ranch land in SE Frisco.

Where? Looking at Google Maps and do not see much ranchland anywhere but north of Frisco. Or your idea of buttload and mine are quite different. There's one area east of the old Frisco square but that's about it and nothing compared to this side of town.