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I-35 is going to be a mess for awhile

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4:49p, 2/26/20
AG
Not that it already isnt.

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4:54p, 2/26/20
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Something needs to be done, and I'm glad I'm not in the area anymore to deal with it.
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In reply to rather be fishing • 4:57p, 2/26/20
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Yep since I moved to the area in 1993 the two main north/south roadways a total of two lanes have been added and they are toll lanes on Mopac. Good news I almost never have to go through downtown. I use mopac or 130
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6:04p, 2/26/20
It's a band-aid on a gaping wound.
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In reply to rather be fishing • 7:09p, 2/26/20
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Take it to the Montana board.
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8:23p, 2/26/20
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It still would probably be cheaper for them to buy 130 and 45 to bypass Austin and toll the old 35, but there would be other issues.
FJB, FPA, and FAZ
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 12:08a, 2/27/20
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I count 12 lanes versus 8 now. 50% increase is not nothing
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In reply to tamc93 • 7:15a, 2/27/20
tamc93 said:
It still would probably be cheaper for them to buy 130 and 45 to bypass Austin and toll the old 35, but there would be other issues.
mainly the other issues being that wouldnt really reduce traffic on 35 at all.
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In reply to expresswrittenconsent • 7:47a, 2/27/20
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expresswrittenconsent said:
tamc93 said:
It still would probably be cheaper for them to buy 130 and 45 to bypass Austin and toll the old 35, but there would be other issues.
mainly the other issues being that wouldnt really reduce traffic on 35 at all.
And neither will their proposal in the short term. It appears to be a boondoggle to create a park over 35.

It is cheaper to add additional lanes along 130 with less impact to divert through traffic.

Glad they are doing something, but the project will be a disaster throughout construction and any future benefits will be greatly off-set by the resulting construction.
FJB, FPA, and FAZ
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In reply to tamc93 • 7:58a, 2/27/20
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tamc93 said:
expresswrittenconsent said:
tamc93 said:
It still would probably be cheaper for them to buy 130 and 45 to bypass Austin and toll the old 35, but there would be other issues.
mainly the other issues being that wouldnt really reduce traffic on 35 at all.
And neither will their proposal in the short term. It appears to be a boondoggle to create a park more housing space for all the bums over 35.

It is cheaper to add additional lanes along 130 with less impact to divert through traffic.

Glad they are doing something, but the project will be a disaster throughout construction and any future delays will be greatly off-set by the resulting construction.
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10:39a, 2/27/20
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Houston has rebuilt almost all there freeways. It was a huge pain but had to be done.
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In reply to SteveBott • 11:50a, 2/27/20
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SteveBott said:
Yep since I moved to the area in 1993 the two main north/south roadways a total of two lanes have been added and they are toll lanes on Mopac.
this project still pisses me off. Along with the "let's fix 183 and turn it into a toll road" project.

By the way, commute time after mopac construction has improved little if any, unless you're cutting lanes to pay 8 dollars for the pleasure to drive 6 miles.
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11:53a, 2/27/20
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In reply to SteveBott • 11:53a, 2/27/20
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SteveBott said:
Houston has rebuilt almost all there freeways. It was a huge pain but had to be done.

And we still sit on I-10 and 290. I guess I'll be avoiding ATX for a decade or so.
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In reply to bodaciousbood14 • 3:59p, 2/27/20
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Howdy Houston,
Keep being a pot and don't worry about the kettle.
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In reply to Potcake • 5:13p, 2/27/20
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Potcake said:
Take it to the Montana board.

Montana traffic jam: elk or deer on the road
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In reply to tamc93 • 10:41p, 2/27/20
AG
They kind of killed 130 being a legit bypass when they dumped it out on to I-10 south of SA instead of back onto 35.
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In reply to tailgatetimer10 • 8:54a, 2/28/20
tailgatetimer10 said:
SteveBott said:
Yep since I moved to the area in 1993 the two main north/south roadways a total of two lanes have been added and they are toll lanes on Mopac.
this project still pisses me off. Along with the "let's fix 183 and turn it into a toll road" project.

By the way, commute time after mopac construction has improved little if any, unless you're cutting lanes to pay 8 dollars for the pleasure to drive 6 miles.
That's because people are moving in. You wanna try living here without the Mopac project having been done?
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In reply to Federale01 • 9:39a, 2/28/20
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Federale01 said:
They kind of killed 130 being a legit bypass when they dumped it out on to I-10 south of SA instead of back onto 35.
Huh? It does go back to I-35 via 45 near Buda. And 130 hits I-10 east of Sequin, not south of SA..
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10:09a, 2/28/20
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As someone who traveled 130 and 45 during rush hour, it kinda ticked me off that I was paying to site IDLE on a road.

I love the toll ways. But this simply isn't going to FIX the issue. With the sprawl out to the burbs, we need to not just fix 35 through Austin. It needs to be fixed down to San Marcos and up to Georgetown.
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In reply to wargograw • 10:31a, 2/28/20
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wargograw said:
tailgatetimer10 said:
SteveBott said:
Yep since I moved to the area in 1993 the two main north/south roadways a total of two lanes have been added and they are toll lanes on Mopac.
this project still pisses me off. Along with the "let's fix 183 and turn it into a toll road" project.

By the way, commute time after mopac construction has improved little if any, unless you're cutting lanes to pay 8 dollars for the pleasure to drive 6 miles.
That's because people are moving in. You wanna try living here without the Mopac project having been done?


Do you drive Mopac north/south during rush hour? I really think the design of the toll road made the traffic flow worse due to the design.

Serious question. Because the line for the toll created a NEW bottleneck that doesn't help with traffic flow. I seriously think it made things worse. Unless you're going to cut off the people waiting to get INTO the toll road, and decide to pay the 8 dollars.
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In reply to Charpie • 10:41a, 2/28/20
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Yea I did not see how they addresses the bridge or south 35
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In reply to SteveBott • 12:08p, 2/28/20
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Looks like lots of new overpasses for Austin's most valued and protected residents, the homeless bums housing disadvantaged people
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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In reply to SteveBott • 12:10p, 2/28/20
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SteveBott said:
Yea I did not see how they addresses the bridge or south 35
Includes a tunnel under Town Lake.
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In reply to tailgatetimer10 • 2:00p, 2/28/20
tailgatetimer10 said:
wargograw said:
tailgatetimer10 said:
SteveBott said:
Yep since I moved to the area in 1993 the two main north/south roadways a total of two lanes have been added and they are toll lanes on Mopac.
this project still pisses me off. Along with the "let's fix 183 and turn it into a toll road" project.

By the way, commute time after mopac construction has improved little if any, unless you're cutting lanes to pay 8 dollars for the pleasure to drive 6 miles.
That's because people are moving in. You wanna try living here without the Mopac project having been done?


Do you drive Mopac north/south during rush hour? I really think the design of the toll road made the traffic flow worse due to the design.

Serious question. Because the line for the toll created a NEW bottleneck that doesn't help with traffic flow. I seriously think it made things worse. Unless you're going to cut off the people waiting to get INTO the toll road, and decide to pay the 8 dollars.
I thought your beef was with the fact that they did a project on Mopac at all, not merely with the fact that they made it a toll. Got it now.
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In reply to Martin Cash • 3:48p, 2/28/20
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Martin Cash said:
SteveBott said:
Yea I did not see how they addresses the bridge or south 35
Includes a tunnel under Town Lake.
Whoa. Seriously?
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In reply to SteveBott • 7:13a, 2/29/20
SteveBott said:
I count 12 lanes versus 8 now. 50% increase is not nothing

It needed to be done 20 years ago. As soon as they open the new lanes, it will be a traffic jam.
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In reply to AgGrad99 • 9:49a, 2/29/20
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AgGrad99 said:
Martin Cash said:
SteveBott said:
Yea I did not see how they addresses the bridge or south 35
Includes a tunnel under Town Lake.
Whoa. Seriously?
Right?!?! Is this real?? Talk about a major traffic headache while they work on that.
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 9:54a, 2/29/20
It's a real shame the city turned down billions in federal funds to expand this to 12 lanes a quarter century ago.
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In reply to Federale01 • 10:57a, 2/29/20
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Federale01 said:
They kind of killed 130 being a legit bypass when they dumped it out on to I-10 south of SA instead of back onto 35.


They should have ran it through 21. Maybe they still can?
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In reply to expresswrittenconsent • 2:05p, 2/29/20
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It's a real shame the city turned down billions in federal funds to expand this to 12 lanes a quarter century ago.

They tried to play the "If we don't build it, they won't come" game. Well, they came anyway, so now what?
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2:19p, 2/29/20
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Didn't the same thing happen to 2222/620 area about 20 years ago?
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In reply to wargograw • 9:05p, 2/29/20
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Nope. I appreciate the effort but good Lord what an awful design
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In reply to tailgatetimer10 • 6:51p, 3/1/20
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tailgatetimer10 said:
wargograw said:
tailgatetimer10 said:
SteveBott said:
Yep since I moved to the area in 1993 the two main north/south roadways a total of two lanes have been added and they are toll lanes on Mopac.
this project still pisses me off. Along with the "let's fix 183 and turn it into a toll road" project.

By the way, commute time after mopac construction has improved little if any, unless you're cutting lanes to pay 8 dollars for the pleasure to drive 6 miles.
That's because people are moving in. You wanna try living here without the Mopac project having been done?


Do you drive Mopac north/south during rush hour? I really think the design of the toll road made the traffic flow worse due to the design.

Serious question. Because the line for the toll created a NEW bottleneck that doesn't help with traffic flow. I seriously think it made things worse. Unless you're going to cut off the people waiting to get INTO the toll road, and decide to pay the 8 dollars.
Totally agree
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In reply to SteveBott • 6:52p, 3/1/20
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SteveBott said:
I count 12 lanes versus 8 now. 50% increase is not nothing
except it will probably take 10+ years to finish this from the time they start so maybe 15 years and by then it won't do much good.
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