Negative ads on Kyle Kacal..

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Heard on this morning on WTAW, funded by "School Freedom Fund" PAC (useless website), 100% smear claims against Kacal, with no mention of his runoff opponent, Ben Bius.
Empower Texas, under another name?
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Are they incorrect?
gettingitdone
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Is what is being said untrue?
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What was said about him?
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Bius' campaign has been almost entirely about why I shouldn't vote for Kacal. Based solely on his campaign I honestly can't give you one reason I should vote for Bius. Which...tells me I won't vote for Bius. Hating one candidate should not translate to voting for the other. That's how we end up with Joe Biden for president. (Note: I don't care if you voted or Biden. We all know a substantial portion of his voters voted against Trump which is my point.) I had already decided I will not vote for Bius simply on the highly negative tone of his campaign. All Kacal hate as far as I can tell. I don't trust people that can't tell me why they are the right person for the job.
halibut sinclair
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Kacal has poo in his tv spots. He has my vote.
Bunk Moreland
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Saw a Kacal attack ad on TV the other day. First ad I've seen of his. Guess it's going both ways.
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Bius is hoping to carry Walker and Grimes County. That's his only chance.
In a world of Altuves and Correas, be an Altuve.
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75AG said:

Bius is hoping to carry Walker and Grimes County. That's his only chance.
Which he will. That's why Kacal is nervous. Turnouts in these primary run-offs are very low.
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Kacal rewarded the Democrats who ran off to Washington by supporting/voting for them for committee chairs because "they have to win a few." I can't support that. He just strikes me as the consummate politician. I like the way Bius has made his money and didn't inherit it.

JMHO. Not a part of either campaign.
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Today I learned that people still watch ads on tv.
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maroon barchetta said:

Today I learned that people still watch ads on tv.


My favorite post of the day. Well done.
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Also, this would have been a great happy hour topic but, noooooo, y'all didn't come.
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scd88 said:

Also, this would have been a great happy hour topic but, noooooo, y'all didn't come.


My kid gets off the bus at like 415, and I have 2 babies....
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I'm more kidding than not. My bad for poor emoji use. I know you have schedule challenges and have always been up front about whether or not you could make it.
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scd88 said:

I'm more kidding than not. My bad for poor emoji use. I know you have schedule challenges and have always been up front about whether or not you could make it.


I know you were being sarcastic. I'm more sad than anything that these dang kids ruin all my fun
GSS
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Found this website, Voting records for elected officials voting records. Kacal's votes don't seem to reflect he is the flaming liberal the "School Freedom Fund" PAC ad claims.

When a PAC with zero information on its funding PAC runs unsubstantiated smear ads never mentioning both candidates, as mentioned that is a red flag for slimy politicking...
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Quote:

Hating one candidate should not translate to voting for the other.

This isn't the most important thing on this thread, but like... this is just how decisions work. Sometimes "I dunno, I guess if I have to" is the better option if there's only two options and the other option is "definitely not."
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bobinator said:

Quote:

Hating one candidate should not translate to voting for the other.

This isn't the most important thing on this thread, but like... this is just how decisions work. Sometimes "I dunno, I guess if I have to" is the better option if there's only two options and the other option is "definitely not."


You can vote for neither or write in a vote.
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You could if you don't want your vote to count.

I don't really care that much either way in this particular case, I'm just saying that "definitely not that" is a perfectly good reason to vote for something else in some situations.
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GSS said:

Found this website, Voting records for elected officials voting records. Kacal's votes don't seem to reflect he is the flaming liberal the "School Freedom Fund" PAC ad claims.

When a PAC with zero information on its funding PAC runs unsubstantiated smear ads never mentioning both candidates, as mentioned that is a red flag for slimy politicking...
I think it stems from his reluctance to support school choice while sending his own kids to private school.
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maroon barchetta said:

bobinator said:

Quote:

Hating one candidate should not translate to voting for the other.

This isn't the most important thing on this thread, but like... this is just how decisions work. Sometimes "I dunno, I guess if I have to" is the better option if there's only two options and the other option is "definitely not."


You can vote for neither or write in a vote.

Sometimes you dislike one so much, you need the other one.
In a world of Altuves and Correas, be an Altuve.
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LSCSN said:

GSS said:

Found this website, Voting records for elected officials voting records. Kacal's votes don't seem to reflect he is the flaming liberal the "School Freedom Fund" PAC ad claims.

When a PAC with zero information on its funding PAC runs unsubstantiated smear ads never mentioning both candidates, as mentioned that is a red flag for slimy politicking...
I think it stems from his reluctance to support school choice while sending his own kids to private school.
And I expect the definition of "school choice" options is critical as to how one might vote.
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maroon barchetta
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bobinator said:

You could if you don't want your vote to count.

I don't really care that much either way in this particular case, I'm just saying that "definitely not that" is a perfectly good reason to vote for something else in some situations.


It's called "voting your conscience". Sorry if that is a new concept.

Recent experience with voting for one person because you don't like the other person isn't really working out for me lately.
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halibut sinclair said:

Kacal has poo in his tv spots. He has my vote.
I thought putting bull**** in a US mailbox was against the law.... Oh wait, that was the point of the ad.
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I'm not saying it's the best reason to vote, for sure, just that it can be a valid reason.

If something about one candidate is so bad that you don't want them to hold office, then voting in such a way that could prevent that from happening (as opposed to voting for something that will absolutely not prevent that from happening) is a valid reason to vote.

Obviously we'd all love to be able to always vote for people we want to vote for, but that's not always how the game works.
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Ted Cruz is behind Ben Bius. Why is a US Senator getting involved in a State House race?

https://www.kbtx.com/2022/04/21/top-republican-leaders-split-endorsements-ahead-primaries-one-reason-is-debate-about-school-choice/

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/04/19/cruz-abbott-school-choice-republican-runoffs/

As another poster said, tell (or rather show) me why I should vote FOR you, not why the other candidate is bad. Unless you want to lose my vote.
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Anna Molly said:

Ted Cruz is behind Ben Bius. Why is a US Senator getting involved in a State House race?

https://www.kbtx.com/2022/04/21/top-republican-leaders-split-endorsements-ahead-primaries-one-reason-is-debate-about-school-choice/

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/04/19/cruz-abbott-school-choice-republican-runoffs/

As another poster said, tell (or rather show) me why I should vote FOR you, not why the other candidate is bad. Unless you want to lose my vote.


Because political endorsements are always a huge part of any election, and you often see higher ranking officials endorsing lower office/local candidates, especially when they are from the same state and the choices of the local official will personally impact the higher official. Ted Cruz is a resident of the State of Texas. Should he not be able to endorse or give opinions simply because he is a US Senator?

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histag10 said:

Anna Molly said:

Ted Cruz is behind Ben Bius. Why is a US Senator getting involved in a State House race?

https://www.kbtx.com/2022/04/21/top-republican-leaders-split-endorsements-ahead-primaries-one-reason-is-debate-about-school-choice/

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/04/19/cruz-abbott-school-choice-republican-runoffs/

As another poster said, tell (or rather show) me why I should vote FOR you, not why the other candidate is bad. Unless you want to lose my vote.


Because political endorsements are always a huge part of any election, and you often see higher ranking officials endorsing lower office/local candidates, especially when they are from the same state and the choices of the local official will personally impact the higher official. Ted Cruz is a resident of the State of Texas. Should he not be able to endorse or give opinions simply because he is a US Senator?


Ordinarily, Ted Cruz's endorsement would have little sway, except to the farthest right wing of the base. But that's very important in a runoff. And will hurt Kacal. And could be an election-changer.
In a world of Altuves and Correas, be an Altuve.
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Anna Molly said:

Ted Cruz is behind Ben Bius. Why is a US Senator getting involved in a State House race?

https://www.kbtx.com/2022/04/21/top-republican-leaders-split-endorsements-ahead-primaries-one-reason-is-debate-about-school-choice/

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/04/19/cruz-abbott-school-choice-republican-runoffs/

As another poster said, tell (or rather show) me why I should vote FOR you, not why the other candidate is bad. Unless you want to lose my vote.
did you read the article?

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"Sen. Cruz believes that school choice is the most important domestic issue in the country," Cruz spokesperson Steve Guest said in a statement. "He doesn't hesitate to endorse and support candidates in primaries that will fight for school choice across Texas."
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bobinator said:

I'm not saying it's the best reason to vote, for sure, just that it can be a valid reason.

If something about one candidate is so bad that you don't want them to hold office, then voting in such a way that could prevent that from happening (as opposed to voting for something that will absolutely not prevent that from happening) is a valid reason to vote.

Obviously we'd all love to be able to always vote for people we want to vote for, but that's not always how the game works.

"If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for, but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. In case of doubt, vote against. By this rule you will rarely go wrong." - Robert Heinlein.

I will say that, in the Presidential elections since I turned 18, I've voted against far more than for. I've only actually voted for a Presidential candidate twice, and one of those was when I was 18 and didn't know any better. (Still would have voted the same, but I would have been voting against Bill Clinton instead of for Bush41.)

More than once I've voted against a candidate because I got sick of their ads and/or mailers.
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I've always thought that Kyle Kacal has done a great job running his daddy's place here in College Station.
Muzzleblast
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This is my district.
I've looked hard at both guys.
A friend asked me about the race last week and my answer was "just pick who you think sucks the least".
Pretty sad but that's where we are.
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Kacal is ranked as one of the most liberal republicans in the house. For him representing a rural district that matters. No Texas rural Republican should be on this list.
Txmoe
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Saw Kacal's response ad to the "attack" ads from Bius. Have to say I'm disappointed that there are TWO shots of cow patties in Kacal's ad. I get the reference and don't mind him making the analogy but does he really have to show cow s**t?
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