halibut sinclair said:

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What didn't you like about Gate 12? We haven't been yet, but it has an excellent rating on Yelp, Facebook, Open Table and Google.

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They got overrun on ring day and weren't good at handling the volume. Have eaten there several other times (under normal circumstances) and enjoyed it.

So is 1860 Italia good or is it an extra loud olive garden?

Food was sub par. Very overrated for the price. Service was lacking. Not worth a second try in my opinion.

We were there late in the evening. Not much of a crowd at that time. Appetizers were cold. My husband's steak was not ordered when the rest of the table's food was. The manager came out and apologized and told him them were pulling his steak from another order that had come in after ours. Not information we needed to know. Was not impressed with the food.

halibut sinclair said:

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What didn't you like about Gate 12? We haven't been yet, but it has an excellent rating on Yelp, Facebook, Open Table and Google.

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My only compaint was the noise. I mean it was so loud you really couldn't have a conversation. I know restaurants in a college town are always noisy, and we expect that, but this was way beyond. Of course, the room facing the airport has a glass wall, low ceiling, and concrete floors.

halibut sinclair said:

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What didn't you like about Gate 12? We haven't been yet, but it has an excellent rating on Yelp, Facebook, Open Table and Google.

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Sent back a flight of whiskey because they didn't wash the glasses (had lipstick on them). Sent food back because a rare steak was way well done. New steak came out 45 minutes later (after everyone had finished) still not rare, but had a hair on it this time. Sent it back again. Packed up, paid, and left. And still spent WAY too much for the food we did get that we didn't send back.

Forgot to add- we did get dessert. But they changed piping bags in the middle, and forgot to put sugar in their whipped cream in the new bag. It was like curdled milk...

I wish them all the best, but it seems more like a gimmick with watching planes take off/land than it is a nice restaurant.

Edit to add- this was not a busy weekend. This was over the summer when there was hardly any crowd

Another thread that makes me miss the original Veritas. And the original Maddens.

Ronin remains my favorite place in town but I agree it's not "upscale" in the traditional sense. I do think they have the best wine list in town, unequaled in fact, and their cocktail game has impressed me a lot.

Its been ages since I've been to Christopher's (got a little bored with the giant hunk of protein and vegetable medley for show repertoire), but now I think I need to try them again.

FlyRod said:

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Another thread that makes me miss the original Veritas. And the original Maddens.

Ronin remains my favorite place in town but I agree it's not "upscale" in the traditional sense. I do think they have the best wine list in town, unequaled in fact, and their cocktail game has impressed me a lot.

Its been ages since I've been to Christopher's (got a little bored with the giant hunk of protein and vegetable medley for show repertoire), but now I think I need to try them again.

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I went to Christopher's for the first time in a long while recently. I had tired of them for the same reasons you state. But I was pleased now with the execution on the food. And it was the best wait-staff service we have had at a restaurant in town in a while.

I agree with you also on mourning the loss of the original Veritas and Maddens (when Peter Maddens was there nightly and staff who have long since departed BCS were there.)

halibut sinclair said:

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What didn't you like about Gate 12? We haven't been yet, but it has an excellent rating on Yelp, Facebook, Open Table and Google.

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We ate there earlier in the year for my wife's birthday. I ordered a steak that they forgot, then forgot again, then manager apologized and promised it was coming, then I finally said cancel it or bring it in a box with the check.

Over two hour lunch ended up late for a meeting, ate the steak for leftovers that night.

Lots of great options around here to not worry about trying this one again.

Esteban du Plantier said:

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halibut sinclair said:

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What didn't you like about Gate 12? We haven't been yet, but it has an excellent rating on Yelp, Facebook, Open Table and Google.

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We ate there earlier in the year for my wife's birthday. I ordered a steak that they forgot, then forgot again, then manager apologized and promised it was coming, then I finally said cancel it or bring it in a box with the check.

Over two hour lunch ended up late for a meeting, ate the steak for leftovers that night.

Lots of great options around here to not worry about trying this one again.

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Our experience Friday night was about the same. I made reservations and indicated it was a special occasion. We ended up in the back room overlooking the runway, it was loud and the service was about the same as the food - not great (pasta and sandwiches). If I'm going to pay $175 for dinner, I would rather not feel it like I'm eating in a high school cafeteria. We probably won't ever go back.

Isn't it a lovely experience? It's my go to for my birthday the last several years.

jac4 said:

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Is Dos Brisas open? Not far from BCS.

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Closed as per the other thread.

Wife and I went on Monday. Wonderful time. Great service, food, drinks, wine. We're very lucky to have that place.

bobinator said:

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So is 1860 Italia good or is it an extra loud olive garden?

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It's good but the first thing I think of is how loud it is. Food is very good and definitely much better than a chain but it's really loud in there. Also, it's loud.

I love a good steak, but honestly, I've thought The Republic's seafood entrees are very good. I appreciate that they are least trying to source Gulf seafood like kingfish (don't care about the mercury content honestly).

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