Back to the office

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TAMUgirl87
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https://www.kbtx.com/2021/05/06/texas-am-announces-employees-must-return-to-campus-june-1/
Nasreddin
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This should be good.
Love Gun
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New boss. New vision. Time to get back to normal.

Now about that fence around the statue.
althormoon
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This is a surprise considering how adamant they originally were that June would be 75% and September 1st would be the full 100%. Now it's suddenly June for no apparent reason so a lot of staff/faculty are pissed. Also, it's completely disingenuous of them to cite New Student Conferences in the summer as a reason when those are almost all VIRTUAL and most staff have absolutely nothing to do with them.
MsDoubleD81
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My neighbor is p'd.
BCSWguru
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I'm a little miffed, too. It's been nice working on campus with no co-workers present.
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althormoon said:

This is a surprise considering how adamant they originally were that June would be 75% and September 1st would be the full 100%. Now it's suddenly June for no apparent reason so a lot of staff/faculty are pissed. Also, it's completely disingenuous of them to cite New Student Conferences in the summer as a reason when those are almost all VIRTUAL and most staff have absolutely nothing to do with them.
New Student Conferences are not almost all virtual. They are in person with virtual options.

There was an announcement that they were going to be virtual and it was reversed almost immediately due to the negative backlash by freshman parents.

Thankfully the number of people willing to put up with this shut-in nonsense is quickly dwindling.

Justin2010
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Now if we can just get rid of the mask mandate in the office....
boredatwork08
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The powers-that-be can't fathom how work can get done unless they're looking over an employee's shoulder.

Edit: I get some jobs can't get done remotely but a good number can. Blanket policies like this hurt more than help.
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I really hope nobody falls for that troll attempt.
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boredatwork08 said:

The powers-that-be can't fathom how work can get done unless they're looking over an employee's shoulder.

Edit: I get some jobs can't get done remotely but a good number can. Blanket policies like this hurt more than help.
User name checks out!
cavscout96
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boredatwork08 said:

The powers-that-be can't fathom how work can get done unless they're looking over an employee's shoulder.

Edit: I get some jobs can't get done remotely but a good number can. Blanket policies like this hurt more than help.
i think there is probably a lot more that requires folks to be on-site than you might imagine,
Trucker 96
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The right decision
FlyRod
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Without mandatory vaccinations, a lot of instructors are going to be teaching in N95 masks this fall. T&P to students with hearing difficulties.
FlyRod
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They could take the masks off and live their lives.


How exactly is wearing masks killing them? Do explain.
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FlyRod said:

Without mandatory vaccinations, a lot of instructors are going to be teaching in N95 masks this fall. T&P to students with hearing difficulties.

Honestly, what's the thinking here? Unless we see some strain come that overcomes the ridiculously high efficacy of all the vaccines available here in the U.S. (which I assume such people will have taken some time ago), why not take a deep breath and enjoy teaching in person again? And I ask this as the spouse of someone who has taught in person at TAMU throughout this whole thing (admittedly in a low risk category).
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Justin2010 said:

Now if we can just get rid of the mask mandate in the office....


And the classrooms and labs...
hungryhippo
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You could always just not wear one.
Stupe
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You could always just not wear one.

Do you not understand the meaning of the word "mandate"?
hungryhippo
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I do indeed. But what are they going to do if you don't wear one? Serious question.
nthomas99
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They backed it with threat of termination.
FlyRod
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Termination seems unlikely. I've been in a lot of TAMU buildings during the last year and lots...lots of staff are not wearing masks, or wearing them as earrings, chinstraps, di*knosing, etc. would be genuinely curious to know if anyone has been terminated for not wearing a mask.
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I sense there is going to be a lot of cheese needed with all that whine...
Walk softly and carry a big stick! Make sure the big stick makes big boom noises and flashy bright lights.
BCSWguru
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[Post without being disrespectful or insulting on this forum or don't post on this forum. -Staff]
FlyRod
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One of our neighbors taught face to face last fall and said the turnout wasn't that good; I hope that picks up this fall.

I don't think students will have the remote option in the fall; initially a hybrid option was on the table but I think it was scrapped. I assume a version of said option exists for students who have special issues that put them at extra risk even if vaccinated, but haven't heard of it.
jeffk
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Always fun to take a very large, diverse group of people and project a reaction onto them to fit a preconceived notion.

"LOL. University staff and faculty have to go back to campus. They all must be apoplectic with dread!"

Are there some that will pitch a fit? Absolutely. The vast majority will handle it like grown ups and be just fine. And students will mostly all be back in person as they're eliminating the hybrid option that we've had in place the past year.
Justin2010
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FlyRod said:

Termination seems unlikely. I've been in a lot of TAMU buildings during the last year and lots...lots of staff are not wearing masks, or wearing them as earrings, chinstraps, di*knosing, etc. would be genuinely curious to know if anyone has been terminated for not wearing a mask.

Well I need my job, and I don't want to be the one walking down the hall breaking the rules and be seen by important people doing it - so yeah, I'll keep wearing the stupid thing at work.
Stupe
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FlyRod said:

Termination seems unlikely. I've been in a lot of TAMU buildings during the last year and lots...lots of staff are not wearing masks, or wearing them as earrings, chinstraps, di*knosing, etc. would be genuinely curious to know if anyone has been terminated for not wearing a mask.
I know for a fact that people have had formal sit downs and told that if they violated the mask mandate again that their employment would be in jeopardy. In writing.
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Although it doesn't bother me going back 100% I can say it would have been nice to have more than 3 week's notice to find full-time childcare. Some of us did not keep it since we were home (and tbh paying for a year of childcare and not going doesn't make sense).....you can't really "get in" super quick sometimes there are waitlists.

Note: Staff just got the email this afternoon (like 30 min ago)... I would have preferred to find out when the media did on 5/5 although it would not have made much difference in preparation and coordination of going back 100% in 3 weeks.
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AGGODDESS said:

Although it doesn't bother me going back 100% I can say it would have been nice to have more than 3 week's notice to find full-time childcare. Some of us did not keep it since we were home (and tbh paying for a year of childcare and not going doesn't make sense).....you can't really "get in" super quick sometimes there are waitlists.

Note: Staff just got the email this afternoon (like 30 min ago)... I would have preferred to find out when the media did on 5/5 although it would not have made much difference in preparation and coordination of going back 100% in 3 weeks.
I got the email Wednesday. They must have sent it out in small batches.
jeffk
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Got the first university email on 5/5, a clarifying email from my college today (basically, if you need to work from home apply through the proper channels and we'll approve anything the university approves), and then another university email regarding masking policy just a few minutes ago.
cavscout96
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This has been in the works for almost a month.

Anyone paying attention should have seen the writing on the wall when the virtual NSCs were immediately retracted.

If folks are surprised by this news, they have not been as connected as they should have been while "working" from home.
Rearview
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100% back to work June 1, must wear mask. lovely.
jeffk
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That's probably true to a certain extent, but the June 1st date does represent a meaningful acceleration of the timeframe for many people. For instance, our college was slated to return June 28th and apparently this announcement caught many even in dean's office by surprise.
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cavscout96 said:

This has been in the works for almost a month.

Anyone paying attention should have seen the writing on the wall when the virtual NSCs were immediately retracted.

If folks are surprised by this news, they have not been as connected as they should have been while "working" from home.
Actually, this is not correct. There were two different group's operating similarly but with some differences. TAMU HR was directing most of the campus return to work and TEES HR was directing all TEES, College of Engineering etc. All TEES faculty staff were told only a couple of weeks ago that it would be a transition back to the office with August 1st being the first date of 100% required to return. Based on this departments, computer labs etc planned accordingly. So, this was a huge surprise to many who are now having to adjust accordingly. It didn't affect me really since I have been working in the office 4 days a week since fall. And masks are required for all buildings throughout summer. I'll be happy to remind people if they enter our building without one.
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