A&M students and virus impact

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They aren't releasing that data right now. Who knows if they will eventually.
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so A&M decided to take the county covid data model and say hey, we can do better. by better I mean more complicated, confusing, and completely useless comparable data to what the county is doing.

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BQ_90 said:

so A&M decided to take the county covid data model and say hey, we can do better. by better I mean more complicated, confusing, and completely useless comparable data to what the county is doing.


And opposed to CDC guidelines that asymptomatic should not be tested.
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KidDoc said:

BQ_90 said:

so A&M decided to take the county covid data model and say hey, we can do better. by better I mean more complicated, confusing, and completely useless comparable data to what the county is doing.


And opposed to CDC guidelines that asymptomatic should not be tested.
I bet they hired Levy Covid testing inc.
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BQ_90 said:

so A&M decided to take the county covid data model and say hey, we can do better. by better I mean more complicated, confusing, and completely useless comparable data to what the county is doing.


YAY Government!
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One of my tenants has Covid. She is hiding in her bedroom and feels like she has a cold. She might be glad to just get it over with right now before the first round of exams.
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BQ_90 said:

KidDoc said:

BQ_90 said:

so A&M decided to take the county covid data model and say hey, we can do better. by better I mean more complicated, confusing, and completely useless comparable data to what the county is doing.


And opposed to CDC guidelines that asymptomatic should not be tested.
I bet they hired Levy Covid testing inc.
So you're saying the lines are long and when you finally get to the front, they are out of tests?
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KidDoc said:

BQ_90 said:

so A&M decided to take the county covid data model and say hey, we can do better. by better I mean more complicated, confusing, and completely useless comparable data to what the county is doing.


And opposed to CDC guidelines that asymptomatic should not be tested.
That update was made because testing is so messed up this will keep things simpler.
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saltsman said:


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If you work for A&M main campus and test positive, you are supposed to report it to A&M, whether working on campus, working from home locally, or working from Houston, Dallas, Austin, or anywhere else.



If you are taking classes at A&M main campus and test positive, you are supposed to report it to A&M, whether attending in person, remotely but locally, or remotely but in Houston, Dallas, Austin, or anywhere else.

These are A&M numbers. Some of them will be reported also by Brazos county - those who had there test administered here. If tests were administered elsewhere, then the results will not be included in Brazos county totals. I think this is how it was explained a couple weeks ago, There is every chance that I am misremembering or that they changed what they're doing in mid-stream.



The label states "Data represents laboratory-confirmed cases of COVID-19, as reported to Texas A&M University by students, faculty and staff in the Bryan-College Station area through its centralized reporting system."

Not sure how clean the data really is, but it is supposed to just BCS cases showing.
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I seriously doubt that there's exponential growth among students right now. That's not happening.

These positive cases were probably brought to campus from wherever the students came from and are just now beginning to be reported here at TAMU.

Residence hall move-in occurred from August 8-18.
CDC states a median of 4 to 5 days incubation.
That puts the window for first community spread showing up August 12-25.
There is likely some lag in the reporting, but the10x spike from 32 (Aug 09) to 358 (Aug 16) being due to local spread is at least plausible.

I'm sure we'll hear more from those with a better understanding of the data soon....
So based on what we learned from the BCHD today - TAMU's dashboard includes all self-reported incidents - it is extremely likely that the MUCH of the positives on the dashboard were brought to BCS from elsewhere by students, and in addition to that MANY of the tests were not even performed locally. There's not even a way to tell when the tests were performed, only when they were self-reported. Some of these cases could be months old. I think it'll be weeks before the TAMU dashboard will provide us with anything resembling reliable real-time data.
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FlyRod said:

I imagine admins are up every night thinking about those lawsuits, and the ones likely to fly if students or staff die. T&P for them.
Good luck proving that they contracted it on the TAMU campus while performing their job or walking to class and not out grocery shopping, protesting., etc.
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redd38 said:

Slocum on a mobile said:

So, my prediction is that as soon as we get a fatality or two, they will shut everything down again. That's a fatality student or faculty / staff from exposure. Once one falls, the rest will follow suit. Maybe I'm wrong...


I think they shut it down way before that
just think of the nightly news and the local school districts posted the number of illnesses (of all kinds: flu, strep, etc.) daily. They would work everyone into a frenzy with their fear porn.

The university and local ISDs should ONLY shut down if the medical care can't handle the patients.

Of those 400+ positive cases- it appears none have been hospitalized
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FlyRod said:

I imagine admins are up every night thinking about those lawsuits, and the ones likely to fly if students or staff die. T&P for them.
I don't see the liability for the schools - It is a 100% choice.

1- students can take their classes from anywhere in the world - online; they don't have to be in college station.
2- faculty and staff DON'T have to work at a place they don't feel safe.

VERY SIMPLE!!!!
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texasaggie said:


I think the biggest problem is springing this on students the first week of class. If this were announced mid-summer, students would at least be informed consumers and could decide if they wanted to return for the semester. Then it would be no different than requiring vaccines (which is already done).

But to announce this once the students have already returned seems poor planning and execution...
This has Kevin McGinnis - VP RISK/Complaince - he has been spear heading the universities response and implementation since the beginning. Huge Obama supporter
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Carnwellag2 said:

texasaggie said:


I think the biggest problem is springing this on students the first week of class. If this were announced mid-summer, students would at least be informed consumers and could decide if they wanted to return for the semester. Then it would be no different than requiring vaccines (which is already done).

But to announce this once the students have already returned seems poor planning and execution...
This has Kevin McGinnis - VP RISK/Complaince - he has been spear heading the universities response and implementation since the beginning.

Crossed out the politic.

If one judges every citizen's job performance based on political preferences, it will be an ill wind that blows no good.

Easy enough to criticize policy w/o going there. I strive for the standard I wish applied to myself.
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Carnwellag2 said:

texasaggie said:


I think the biggest problem is springing this on students the first week of class. If this were announced mid-summer, students would at least be informed consumers and could decide if they wanted to return for the semester. Then it would be no different than requiring vaccines (which is already done).

But to announce this once the students have already returned seems poor planning and execution...
This has Kevin McGinnis - VP RISK/Complaince - he has been spear heading the universities response and implementation since the beginning. Huge Obama supporter
Agreed....It's like Coach Fisher using the I-formation cause he's a huge Trump supporter.
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Yep...must be some kind of political conspiracy...some rando on Facebook said so.
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Carnwellag2 said:



1- students can take their classes from anywhere in the world - online; they don't have to be in college station.

-- Eventually some are going to ask, Why am I taking Online Classes at X University via crappy zoom when I can Steam Any Other University via zoom as the same..

Some come here for the Football, some come here for the school

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Is TAMU making the breakdown of student vs faculty cases public? Haven't been able to find anything regarding that.
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Sort of. If you look at the COVID portal, they separate students from "faculty and staff."

I hope at some point they break down the latter.
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FlyRod said:

Sort of. If you look at the COVID portal, they separate students from "faculty and staff."

I hope at some point they break down the latter.
Nice. I looked everywhere but there of course. Thanks.

Looks like 5 total Faculty and Staff so far. Was just curious.
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Had dinner with some of our food friends last night; one of whom works in HR at A&M. The school feels like they have good procedures in place to keep the semester going as planned. There may be boundaries where changes will be made; but we are nowhere near them right now.

The great thing is we absolutely are learning about what our boundaries are with the virus and how to move forward with some semblance of normalcy. Pushing them is often uncomfortable; but it is needed.
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scd88 said:

Had dinner with some of our food friends last night; one of whom works in HR at A&M. The school feels like they have good procedures in place to keep the semester going as planned. There may be boundaries where changes will be made; but we are nowhere near them right now.

The great thing is we absolutely are learning about what our boundaries are with the virus and how to move forward with some semblance of normalcy. Pushing them is often uncomfortable; but it is needed.
This is very good news. Would you say it doesn't look like TAMU is closing this semester if things remain more or less the same?
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FlyRod said:

Yep...must be some kind of political conspiracy...some rando on Facebook said so.
I mean you have to have your head in the sand to not realize that politics is playing a huge role in response.

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If by "head in the sand" you mean "don't place much stock in whackadoodle conspiracy theories" then, guilty as charged.
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techno-ag said:

scd88 said:

Had dinner with some of our food friends last night; one of whom works in HR at A&M. The school feels like they have good procedures in place to keep the semester going as planned. There may be boundaries where changes will be made; but we are nowhere near them right now.

The great thing is we absolutely are learning about what our boundaries are with the virus and how to move forward with some semblance of normalcy. Pushing them is often uncomfortable; but it is needed.
This is very good news. Would you say it doesn't look like TAMU is closing this semester if things remain more or less the same?


If things stay the same, I can't see the campus closing. Look at the hospitalizations (down pretty significantly) and now the county numbers have started to go back down...

Multiple layers of leadership are apparently working together and listening to each other. Dare I say President Young has done a good job regarding Covid, at least up to this point?
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FlyRod
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Possibly because more and more attention is focusing on long term complications (especially cardiovascular) as another metric to watch in addition to hospitalizations and deaths.

A student "getting sick" might not end up in the ICU but might be roughing it out at home for weeks, or months.

I am confident we are going to have much more and better data soon.
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Tailgate88 said:


Great news. Maybe after the election there won't be so much political pressure to paint pictures of doom & gloom.
 
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