Funny I keep hearing from various sources that the ban on R22 has been rescinded. Johnstone supply is telling me the same. I do know that 410 units are about to be ban also. Here is article from the Hill that has about the rescinding of R22 ban. I also know the price for R22 has come down and there is plenty on the market.



https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/407614-epa-to-abandon-restrictions-against-climate-change-linked-chemical

"R-410 is likely to be phased out in 2023 with New installs, and replaced by a refrigerant even less harmful to the Ozone- and...wait for it... It's... Flammable * "


So why the scare tactic for those to convert from 22 to 410 ?


Sounds like one should just wait until 2023 for the next refrigerant

It is rich that a snake oil salesmen is questioning anyones ethics.

Gonna be completely honest and objective here.

EcoZapp: You need to get out of your own way.

Your follow-up posts to all your threads when someone calls you out on something are so cringeworthy and unprofessional.

I know I'm going to be in the market for a new AC system soon (ours is 21 years old now), but everything you post and even your Facebook posts do the opposite of "Instill me with confidence" that your company actually are experts on HVAC work.

You talk about being entrepreneurs and have trucks standing by to replace R22 units.
But I don't see years and years of experience with HVAC work anywhere.
Your company seems to change what their focus is all the time... EcoZapp, started as pest control, then added HVAC work, then sells some "quick fix" solution that googling can't even find anything about and you never provide any details about and apparently it costs $500 to spend 30 minutes to add and certainly isn't using $500 worth of materials.

Nothing you do on these forums says to me "These guys really know what they are doing and will be around in 10 years to maintain any warranty"

i'm pretty good at giving benefit of the doubt, but man, you make it tough with your advertising and your immature responses here.

You can take that observation as you want.

The "quick fix" that others have called "snake oil" sounds exactly like what it is. I've seen your facebook posts where other people have tried to get better explanations of what the quick fix actually is and you never answer directly, and deflect around any details about it. or any warranty/money back guarantee/what happens if it destroys my A/C unit (because it really sounds like the answer to that last thing is going to be "Well your system was old anyways and this didn't break it... guess you need a new one now".


Others have said it before... you really need to stop "fighting" with people on the forums. Answer questions professionally, instead of getting defensive and answering as if you were a veteran of the General Board.

If you think you are winning people to your business with the style of your posts, then I guess you can continue as you are doing. But I don't think I've seen a single other poster on this board come to your defense saying what a great job and honest company EcoZapp is (at least not one with a Rookie symbol next to their name who never posts again).

EcoZapp.Makes.Crisp.Air said:

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1st Thanks for following us over years !

2nd if you have any doubt of our Intergreity or quality of service, please compare us to the other ten thousand HVAC companies and give us an honest feed back. Because our team works and trains everyday to not be like Most traditional contractors

3 rd Arctic blast helps ac systems run better, the fact that ppl still bring it up is kinda just good marketing to x degree ( can we agree on this lol )

4th this is a texags forum , if I'm polite nobody's may care. Feeding the trolls helps more ppl know about Ecozapp

5th give us a call at 833.924.6100 and maybe form your own opinion instead of relying on the trolls I try to feed

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1. Haven't been following for years... just last year on Facebook when you were giving away free systems. Just haven't unfollowed yet.

2. This says nothing at all. How does comparing you to 10,000 other companies say anything about your integrity. I need a long list of customers of yours that I can talk to. That'd be the only way. There are HVAC companies in town that have been doing HVAC for decades, not a few years like EcoZapp. If a new company starts in town, they better start WOWING people right away with their professionalism and integrity.
I've seen all style and no substance so far from EcoZapp.

And I certainly don't have time to compare you to 10,000 other companies. I'm going to limit my choices for spending my money to those companies that I see having the following qualities:

• Honest and Upfront about pricing and services
• Established and will be here for years to come
• Good recommendations from people in this community... and from people I deem trustworthy.

3. Everything you say about arctic blast is subjective and you provide no details about exactly what it is or what it truly does. You just repeat the mantra of "It helps ac system run better".

You also seem to of the mind that "Any coverage is good coverage". That only works for actors and politicians. And you really like to brag about this "People keep bringing it up, so it must be good marketing". As a customer for a product that will cost about $10,000 or more, I could give a rat's ass about your marketing.

4. This is Texags, but not the General board. There have been other company's called to task on here before.
And the ones that respond like you respond in unprofessional ways DO NOT get the business of the people on here. There have been others who come on here and professionally handle any complaints or questions with honesty and sincerity and those get rave reviews and they make new customers.

5. Everyone that has asked questions or raised good questions about your products, have all been met your snarky, sarcastic answers, with what I guess is what you consider taking the high ground and "feeding the trolls".

Everything about EcoZapp... your website, your Facebook posts, and especially your communications on this forum screams "We are all flash and no substance". I want people that have years of experience in dealing with HVAC systems and can interact with potential customers in a professional manner.


Seriously. You are doing disservice to your company.

All I know is this:
In the first photo, if you turn the fan on, all that money on display is going bye-bye. Seems apt.

EcoZapp.Makes.Crisp.Air said:

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You are assuming we try to look like a traditional HVAC company and operate like everyone of the other thousand HVAC companies in any area.

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You mean we assume that you intend to conduct yourself in a professional matter when representing your company? Yes. We expect that.

You're not winning business this way. Trolling on the internet make you a company that I will never do business with and will warn anyone that will listen away from you.

Why can't you just post customer testimonials and answer the questions that people have about your products and services?

The posts on here are amusing for sure, definitely not what I would call a solid marketing strategy...BUT...
On probably one of the coldest days this year our blower motor went out. We got an outrageous quote from one of the other "reputable" companies in town. I decided to give this guy a call just to see what happened.
The girl that answered the phone was polite and professional, had a tech out with an hour. He (Louis I think) gave us a much better price, and explained why it was cheaper. We ended up with the name brand part cheaper than the other guy wanted for aftermarket. New part was on in 30 minutes, he cleaned up and left. It was actually a very pleasant experience. The tech didn't try to sell me magic oil or get me to replace our rather old system.
My only complaint is that he DIDNT offer the magic oil, I was looking forward to the explanation. 10/10 would use again, because let's be honest, who cares what he says on the internet as long as he does good work at a good price?

EcoZapp.Makes.Crisp.Air said:

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Funny thing is. You're stil the one getting ramped up over someone who isn't much older than your ac system on a message forum. ((. And If your name is Tanner, you may have given us a 1 star review this morning ( seems like a coincidence and google does show us where reviews come from , if that was you. Got on the higher horse there I see )).

You are assuming we try to look like a traditional HVAC company and operate like everyone of the other thousand HVAC companies in any area.

Truth is, if you take a look at us, our average age Is like half of most companies. We're a growth based companiy with different focuses and services for the homeowners we serve. Mainly reducing energy bills and replacing older systems is part of our core services.

Where a bunch of Aggie entrepreneurs who seemed to have figured out most details behind residential HVAC installs. to help make us fast , clean and efficient. In an industry a bit out dated... by decades... please proceed to tell your opinions and about how we're doing it all wrong

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I don't go and give fake reviews. I have no real fight with you. You seem to very immature... and if you really about 19 years old, It definitely shows with the maturity level you show on here.


I'm offering my observances of your posting style and responses and how you are alienating me (and apparently many others on this forum).

You can do with that what you want.

You can insult me for not understanding your "hip, new modern way of advertising and marketing" if you think that gets you more business.

And maybe you guys are just raking in money hand-over-fist with this strategy and I'm completely wrong.

But why purposefully alienate potential clients just to be what you consider "Cool on the internet forums and trolling like it is the general board?"


And you just throw out phrases and numbers that are meaningless.

You telling me your "average age is about half of other companies" is NOT a selling point. I don't want young idiots who don't have years of experience working on my A/C. Since A/C units last for 10 to 20 years, someone who just started selling them, researching them 2 years ago does not instill any confidence in me that you know what the heck you are doing.

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We're a growth based companiy with different focuses and services for the homeowners we serve. Mainly reducing energy bills and replacing older systems is part of our core services.

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1 There is not a company in business that is NOT a growth-based company. that's what every company wants to do. So, there is nothing in this statement to distinguish you from anyone else.

2. "with different focuses and services".. only thing I've seen on this is the cold-air thing that no one can produce any data on how much it saves anyone... or how dependable it is.

3. "Mainly reducing energy bills and replacing older systems". Every HVAC in the company in the area (about a 1,000 of them in the area based on your statement... Man, 1000 HVAC companies in the B/CS area... that's one for every 300 people!)) business offerings include the service of selling and installing replacement systems. That is NOT different than the 1000 others.

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Where a bunch of Aggie entrepreneurs who seemed to have figured out most details behind residential HVAC installs.

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1. Who cares that you call yourself an entrepreneur... everyone that starts their own business is an entrepreneur.
2. And what a ringing endorsement of yourself "you SEEMED to have FIGURED OUT MOST details". Sounds like a lot of trial and error went into that and yet it only seems like you figured most (NOT ALL) the details so far.


I was really trying to let you know how you are shooting yourself in the foot, but you just seem to want to double-down on trying to portray your company in the worst light possible.

good luck. But as of now, your company is at the bottom of that list of 1,000 HVAC companies in the area that I'm going to call when I need to replace my system.

EcoZapp.Makes.Crisp.Air said:

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The irony on this side of the keyboard is, I know you're mostly wrong about most of your ideas about us, and secretly you're going to know i'm right about a few more topics above, shortly after you finish your buying cycle/ replacement process.

Don't underestimate someone just cuz you disagree about what you see/ how you found them on "Social Media", to some degree you took time out of your day to get offended about an HVAC company in growth/ getting attention mode

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I know you are only 19 and still new to Texags. Ive been here since 2002. I use these boards to kill time. There has never been a moment when ive been offended or truly upset by anything posted on them

You dont offend me. You arent important enough to me to do that. I do enjoy pointing out when someone is being stupid on the internet (ask STAFF) and you are definitely providing me plenty of entertainment in this thread.

I am sure i will be able to find a good HVAC company out of the thousand or so in the area that will do quality work and have long-standing reputation of stsnding behind their service. I am 100% sure they will be better than a company whose motto is apparently "We seemed to have figured out most of the details of an HVAC installation"

You should copyright that before someone else jumps on it.

Does the owner of ecozapp hold a current valid TX hvac license ?

You know like the license that the other 1000 BCS HVAC company owners that you trash talk on here actually hold from the hours and certification test that they passed ?

Well said.

Professionalism goes a long way.

This guy is getting good, honest advice from the people that actually have the money to spend and instead of taking it like an adult, he resorts to name calling.

Unbelievable.