How much is that cluster of a diverging diamond just up the road costing? That money could have gone a long ways to fixing a real problem. And before you mention accidents at that intersection, there are more and worse accidents involving the Holleman intersection. Heck, I even had my truck totaled as a result of the diverging diamond construction. But of course overpass doesn't sound near as progressive as "diverging diamond".sonar99 said:
Over pass is 85$ mil... what they plan is around 25$ mil.... they would love to do overpass but is cost is major factor.....
I was speaking to using the diverging diamond money to the much more needed Holleman overpass.aggiepublius said:
There was absolutely no way to do an overpass there and space is limited. TXDOT decided to do the new fangled out of limited options.
The way that traffic flows through that and the reduction of accidents has made me more open to some of the "new fangled" traffic designs.Quote:
How much is that cluster of a diverging diamond just up the road costing?
your numbers are way off, but cost is the sole reason for not putting in an overpass. I'm not sure how much they even thought about an overpass as it was not an option in the detailed traffic analysis that looked at delay and safety. TxDOT and COCS screwed it up before (they should have grade separated Jones-Butler when they did the 2818 and Welborn work) and they are screwing it up again. There are issues along the whole corridor, the proposed plan will address them. They could have modified the proposed plan to allow for the grade separation at Holleman, and provided higher traffic flow and greater safety for only a few million more. They choose to not use funds effectively. There is so much money wasted by the agencies every year.sonar99 said:
Over pass is 85$ mil... what they plan is around 25$ mil.... they would love to do overpass but is cost is major factor.....
I agree. The city needs to stop adding students!BrandonC said:
City just isn't designed to handle this many people. But hey let's keep on adding more students and apartments. Genius
Obligatory:Expert Analysis said:your numbers are way off, but cost is the sole reason for not putting in an overpass. I'm not sure how much they even thought about an overpass as it was not an option in the detailed traffic analysis that looked at delay and safety. TxDOT and COCS screwed it up before (they should have grade separated Jones-Butler when they did the 2818 and Welborn work) and they are screwing it up again. There are issues along the whole corridor, the proposed plan will address them. They could have modified the proposed plan to allow for the grade separation at Holleman, and provided higher traffic flow and greater safety for only a few million more. They choose to not use funds effectively. There is so much money wasted by the agencies every year.sonar99 said:
Over pass is 85$ mil... what they plan is around 25$ mil.... they would love to do overpass but is cost is major factor.....
aginresearch said:
I know I've posted this before but I'll do it again: TXDOT offered to front the cost of the overpass at Holleman and 2818 when the Wellborn interchange was built. COCS declined the offer. For sure the city would have been obligated to pay it back but the option was floated.
jhaero said:
At least there are plans to help out at Jones Butler.
https://www.kbtx.com/content/news/Transportation-officials-planning-new-Jones-Butler-Road-extension-under-FM-2818-505416221.html
bcstx06 said:
May be a little off topic, but what is that new building at the corner of 2818 and Holeman? It looks like a neighborhood pharmacy or maybe an Aldi or Lidl.
I've been driving that road since it opened and I think from what planning documents indicated (talking about a grease trap, etc.) that it would be a strip center with a restaurant.Heismenberg said:bcstx06 said:
May be a little off topic, but what is that new building at the corner of 2818 and Holeman? It looks like a neighborhood pharmacy or maybe an Aldi or Lidl.
I think I remember seeing a sign a long time ago that it was going to be a gym/fitness center. I could be wrong though.
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six-lane urban street (three lanes north, three lanes south, separated by a median)
Justin2010 said:
Work on this started today.
https://www.kbtx.com/2021/02/01/txdot-to-begin-new-work-on-harvey-mitchell-parkway/