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I firmly believe that the Board decision to not grandfather the 8th graders only exacerbated community divisions.

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They should have grandfathered the 8th graders AND any siblings that would be enrolled concurrently so parents wouldn't have to be taking kids to two different high schools at the same time.

When they didn't grandfather, the board proved beyond doubt that what "is best for students and families" was a line of bull and that the only thing that mattered to them was the demographics and booster club money.

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Out of curiosity, because of the accusations going around that the picture was maliciously "altered", I wanted to see just how much altering needed to be done. I took the color photo from the news article and then simply used the black & white filter. It appears, that was all that was done.

I also went back and read the original posts that had issue with the photo, there was no accusation from the poster about "blackface". It appears that sort of thing was mentioned by people in the comments. The issue was with the choice of costume and the caption.

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That's altering.

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I can tell you that Barrington never supported the 58 group in any way. I can tell you that Amanda Green supported all these kids, from BOTH sides.

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Can you back these statements up with proof, please?

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Can you show any proof, even a sentence, where he has?

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I asked a question. I am not one that is making blanket statements. Why are you questioning me? I'd think some people on here would like to be informed by facts. Seems like no one can comment on here without being attacked unless they agree with you or those that think like you.

That was not even remotely an attack. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, it doesn't mean that they are attacking you.

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Why are you questioning me? I'd think some people on here would like to be informed by facts.

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You're contradicting yourself there. You say that people on here would like facts but that I shouldn't question you....for facts.

You asked another person to show proof that someone hasn't done something, but you don't want to show proof that they have. In this case, if Barrington has at some point publicly defended or backed the 8th graders, it would be very easy to find. I simply asked if you could do that.

So which is it?
Do you want people to actually have all of the facts in order to make a decision or do you just want people that disagree with you to show proof of all of their statements but not hold yourself to the same standard?

And then claim that they are attacking you.

yesiamnew, you seem very concerned about our entire community and the kids the school board wronged. I have some questions you might ask Mr. Barrington:

1. What kind of ties do you have with current school board members?
2. Do you or have you been known to refer business to the school board president Mr. Harris, or have any other personal dealings with him?
3. Were you prompted by any of these people that rezoned and grandfathered with extreme bias to run for school board?
4. Were you prompted to run at the last second when it was found by the powers that be that Amanda Green was going to be running uncontested?
4. When prompted did you state that you have been wanting to get into politics and this would be the perfect spring board, or anything along those lines?
5. If any of the above is true, do you expect anyone to believe you are not more of the same or worse than we currently have?
6. What have you done for our school district in the last 8 years?
7. Do you slam single member districts because it would never allow the extreme bias of one school interest on our board like we have now?
8. Do you think our community wants another school board member that knows whats best for our kids and forces it on us? Or would you say most prefer a say in their kids education and enjoy not having the sense of community ripped out from under them?

Yes, there's easy proof of Barrington not caring about Fate58 until this election and it would then benefit him getting votes. Just look at the Fate58 page - he didn't bother to like it and his main supporters actually comment negatively about Fate58. He also got a lot of stuff wrong about the grandfathering process at the forums showing he doesn't understand what even happened.

Barrington just put a post up on his fb page tonight talking about how we won't have to rezone again. In direct contraction to what he told all of eastside (twice) and what he said on kamu! He said we need to move more to consol because we didn't move enough. I'm totally confused, this guy is all over the map! Maybe this IS a springboard for him to run for other positions...he's got the politician thing down solid. I hope the cheering on eastside has died down a bit.

Ya know, even though this topic gets heated, maybe folks ought to recall some of the congenial hospitality for which Aggieland is known. Tone in text is difficult to discern at times but it is trending a little warm.

Edit-replying to the other debate, not your post, Tigermom.

I would like to know when you are going to run for school board Oogway? We might have to campaign under a different name than Oogway though. Just a thought.

Tigermom, I'm afraid you have got all excited and jumped the gun. He says no such thing in reality, just slick wording. Also, hopefully everybody remembers our last election. When the school boards groomed candidate was asked on the record about rezoning she said "we will not be rezoning for a long time". A few months later the town was pants'd and we had an "emergency" rezoning. He also mostly leans on if the demographers numbers were right. If you look at their rezone charts, they did not solve the capacity problems. This is because they drew from mostly low density wealthy hoods for consols booster clubs, and bused off low SES kids from high density hoods to CSHS. In fact, thats why they had to add creek meadows at the end. The numbers really really did not work without adding them at the last second.

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Out of curiosity, because of the accusations going around that the picture was maliciously "altered", I wanted to see just how much altering needed to be done. I took the color photo from the news article and then simply used the black & white filter. It appears, that was all that was done.

I also went back and read the original posts that had issue with the photo, there was no accusation from the poster about "blackface". It appears that sort of thing was mentioned by people in the comments. The issue was with the choice of costume and the caption.

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The better question is, why did somebody doctor the photo at all? Do you have any explanation for why somebody with honest intentions would do that? I don't. Given the response, I'd bet they knew exactly what they were doing. And I've seen the "blackface" nonsense elsewhere too, e.g., on a public FB post from somebody local (not somebody I know at all) bringing it up and hashtagging the candidate's employer suggesting she be fired. The more fevered stuff may have died down now that it's gone to the media and it's harder to sustain it without complete loss of credibility, but it's been out there.

I'm wondering if Amanda Green has much of a chance in this election after being smeared so badly? Another concern I have is her even taking the spot if she wins. It's the entire school board against her. And after "somebody" doctored those photos and said her husband was black faced, part of the community she was standing up for has threatened her well being and job. I would say the school board has guaranteed their reign for a very long time. I cannot see anyone thats educated and gainfully employed daring to take up for the students and run for school board going forward. That is, unless they are on the "home team".

CSISD will lose more next cycle as I have had several talk to me about how we like the new school. The continued denial of some of our administrators is amazing. Add to it that the board lets one or two speak for the whole board is alarming. We have people on the board that were not even voted in if I understand correctly.

Some will say real estate is in a down turn or stagnant place but it is amazing how the super hot market slowed just as the schools starting playing the numbers games. Call it what you want to but I find that an amazing coincidence.

If folks don't get out and vote then I feel they can expect more of the same. Do whatever it takes to make the old school great again even if it dictates tearing down the community. Like I say all opinion but seems to be what I see. I wish the schools would manage unbiased. Anybody that says this is what has happened over last 2 plus years is out of their mind in mine. If you want to see things level off or die vote for the one that seems to be hand picked by the group in control now. We have a few good board members now they just have no voice. Vote for the new blood and you may see enough change to make the schools good again. Nobody likes instability. As long as we have it charter will grow.

People should really attend more board meetings. I did a few and in one meeting found one alarming thing. Multiple votes a member had to abstain from the vote as they had professional affiliations with the school vendors. Maybe nothing but seemed odd to me. Glad they abstained but was alarming to me.

I would beg to differ with Barrington's framing of the Charter school. CSISD doesn't "lose" money due to the charter (yes, they receive less due to less enrollment than projected), but their expenses also go down (400-500 less students due to the charter). So to imply "Charter is bad" they take money away... that's rhetoric.

The math is not that complicated. They still get all the local property tax from the parents, and don't have to spend a penny on those students. The charter school is more efficient, and is able to get it done with just the state funds. So csisd is getting paid local taxes for kids that don't even go to their schools. In the end, the charter school just gave CSISD a raise per student attending. They have blamed "growing pains" on all the hell they have unleashed on their community and students. Now they want to complain the charter school is taking students from them because they don't get those state funds. Funny thing is they are the ones that ran them off in the first place.

HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOW CSISD IS GOING TO SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS TO LOBBY AGAINST CHARTER SCHOOLS NOW??

Hey bandaid. It's not the demographers fault, they are just doing as they are told. They are good at what they do, and have helped draw some good looking school district maps. I honestly feel bad for them. Can you imagine the task the board set them to: okay. I need to fill up capacity at consol, it's an "emergency" and we are "good stewards" of tax dollars. Wait, before you do that... I need low income students to be within a 15% variation of each other. And wait, I want you to bus away some of these low income students that go to the under capacity consol I'm asking you to fill. And wait, I also want you to be sure the neighborhoods you zone to consol are the only remaining acreage estate high wealth neighborhoods in town, that don't already go to consol.

Demographers response- I did as you asked, and reworked this for the 73rd time. We know you want all the remaining richest neighborhoods to consol for the booster club, but this does not solve the capacity issue as we discussed because they are not high density areas. Also, we see this demographic having the ability to relocate in order to goto the school they want.

CSISD- we will just throw creek meadows in at the last second. Doesn't matter anyways, we will be rezoning more of what we want to consol in two or three years anyways. Hope indian lakes has fun between now and then.

Amanda Green 57% win. Cant wait to replace more of these turkeys.