I have a 20g shotgun I've never shot. If you are interested I'll share the details. Lighter kick than 22g
BenderRodriguez said:
I assume by this hyperbolic post that the answer to the question I asked you is "I have no experience teaching women to use both".
00 buck is plenty effective. That's not the issue here, as you well know. I was curious if you might have some sort of actual experience to share to back up your statement that the learning curve for a pump shotgun is easier than learning how to shoot an AR, since it flies so counter to my actual experience teaching women to shoot both, but I guess I have my answer to that.
You don't need anything fancy to be effective. A will to win and a rusty spoon can be effective. But as another guy with a 5' 1" petite wife like OP who has taught women to shoot everything from pump action shotguns to pistols and ARs, I strongly disagree with your premise than a pump action shotgun is easier to learn. In my experience, it is substantially more difficult, especially for petite females. But hey, what the hell would I know about it.
This does really go well with your earlier postEl Chupacabra said:
Since 99.9% of people won't spend the time to properly learn to shoot, it really doesn't matter. And since 99.99999999999% of the .1% that do learn will never need there gun outside of the range, it REALLY doesn't matter.
El Chupacabra said:
Don't over think it. The learning curve on a shotgun vs AR is much easier.
sure. Why not?Long range Ag said:
I have a 20g shotgun I've never shot. If you are interested I'll share the details. Lighter kick than 22g
El Chupacabra said:
Never taught a woman.
BenderRodriguez said:El Chupacabra said:
Never taught a woman.
I know.
So maybe don't dole out sage advice about which one is easier to learn how to use?
El Chupacabra said:
Original answer still stands.
Or we could go with armed security manned with former navy seals.
El Chupacabra said:
OP asked about a shotgun, not what was the best home defense weapon as perceived byobsessedexperienced, knowledgeable gun guys.
O.G. said:
When I was an instructor for TDCJ, I did teach a lot of women. Revolvers, shotguns and ARs.
The main thing that MOST women were worried about was the recoil on the 870, even shooting birdshot which is what they qualified with at the range. They'd heard all kinds of stories on how bad it was, mostly from guys running their mouths and making my job harder.
Their biggest issue with the AR was remembering what does what. Most of them only shot once a year for qualifications so, it all goes back to training.
I strongly recommend that you let a professional instructor teach the spouse how to shoot/use/run the weapons system. Dads/Brothers/Uncles/Cousins are cool to shoot beer cans with, but bad for training.
Also, please stop assuming that a woman needs a shotgun or a revolver because they can't operate a semi-auto pistol, or an AR. That is complete 100% BS. If SHE wants a shotgun because that's what she's comfortable with and knows, that's great. More power to her. If its you assuming its all she can use, then YOU need more training, not her.
The shotgun is the tool of the professional,not a blunt object for an ameteur.
Lastly...anyone that believes that just "racking a shell into a shotgun" scares criminals away, has never been around criminals. Meth...its called Meth....
My hubby breaks in the springs for me. 500 rounds thru the gun and would rack it a few thousand times while watching TV; then the gun would be mine.shiftyandquick said:
My wife wasn't strong enough to rack the slide on a glock.
If you'd only post this on the GB - it really leaves the door wide open for some crude jokes.shiftyandquick said:
My wife wasn't strong enough to rack the slide on a glock.
El Chupacabra said:BenderRodriguez said:El Chupacabra said:
Never taught a woman.
I know.
So maybe don't dole out sage advice about which one is easier to learn how to use?
Original answer still stands.
Or we could go with armed security manned with former navy seals.
CanyonAg77 said:
Which one of you calls in the air strike?
Who elected you leader of this outfitBenderRodriguez said:
But hey, what the hell would I know about it.
BenderRodriguez said:
I have a Beretta A400 (semi auto 12), a CZ branded turkish gun (O/U 20) and a Mossberg 500 (pump 12).
The 20 gauge O/U CZ is a lightweight field gun and it is more unpleasant to shoot for extended periods than either of the other guns.
Kinda weird how weight, fit, etc matter more than the usual internet answer of "20 is better for recoil sensitive" would lead someone to believe, isn't it?