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5:37p, 5/22/17
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whats your recommendations for sifters?

And where's the best place to buy a hunt? Anywhere any cost - just want results
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5:46p, 5/22/17
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Might be worth a trip out to West Texas in the Big Bend area. Teri Smith appears to be the area rock hunter, so she may also do arrowhead hunts.

Found plenty at our place south of Alpine. Granted we also have an old Indian camp in the area too. I've left those arrowheads alone though.



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6:31p, 5/22/17
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River and creek beds.
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6:39p, 5/22/17
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A tributary to the perdanales (sp) flows through some land my wife inherited between Fredericksburg and kerrville, around tiveydale.

My son has found two arrow heads walking around out there
I've tried looking but I find nothing when I look.
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7:29p, 5/22/17
A couple of places I've had luck over the years are the Brazos and Navasota River banks below the Hwy 105 bridges. My buddy and I would fish that area, north & south of the highway, pretty often in an old flat bottom boat with a trolling motor. We would stop on the little islands and places where there was a noticeable runoff after a rain. I did't have as good an eye as he did but managed to find many good arrow points and scrapers over the years. We donated some of our better finds, spear points and scrapers, to the Washington on the Brazos Museum.
We probably had luck finding something 25% of the time we were actually looking but like most things nothing was a guarantee. We were mostly hoping to catch a big cat and just enjoying our time out there.

Some of the points and scrapers I found over the years in that area.
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Fish fossil I found on the bank of the Navasota north of the the 105 bridge about 15 years ago.
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7:39p, 5/22/17
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Be very careful on buying hunts. Do your research. There can be some very shady folks who lease land and sell pay digs. They might put you in a place that is throw dirt. It's already been dug, points taken, and the midden refilled.

They will "salt" an area and make sure everyone sees it and convince diggers it's a fertile place.

There are legit ones but there are plenty of jerks out there ready to take your cash and you spend a full day or two working with not much to show.
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7:39p, 5/22/17
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My Grampa was and my Dad is like a bloodhound when it comes to arrow heads. Dad will wander off while we're at the ranch in the middle of a group conversation once he's heard enough to go find arrow heads. 9 times out of 10 he'll come back to the group 15 minutes later with a new arrow head. We've found a few at the ranch and our home place over the years. This is one of 9 shadow boxes he put together for the cousins and siblings a few years ago.
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8:23p, 5/22/17
OP, look up Bob McWilliams on facebook. Back when I dug with him in college, he was TAAA (Texas Amateur Archaeological Association). I think he's digging somewhere. There was another guy named Nacho down around Camp Wood, but not sure if he's still running digs. Those guys had nice leases and were not salting digs.
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8:24p, 5/22/17
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Grew up in the hill country and my family and I were fortunate to dig a lot of great mounds growing up. We always built a wire sifter with a 2x4 frame and would set it on saw horses. We would use a bobcat to dump loads on the sifting table and all sit around and talk while we sifted through the load. We found some incredible and perfect points over the years that my dad has in countless cases. I'll never forget when I found a perfect Langtry point in a creek bed.
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8:25p, 5/22/17
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I know several archeologists who would condemn this thread and be overcome by the vapors.
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8:55p, 5/22/17
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Keep in mind....

1. We've hunted everywhere...if it's accessible .
2. We are considered pothunters by pretty much every society we ever joined...and may or may not have been allowed to remain members of.
3. Some of the coolest points (Perdiz) from quartz I have ever found came from locations that would have fined the **** out of me if they knew. I don't condone the behavior or actively destroy sites but I won't let one go if I run across it off the beaten path in a wash.

However, as noted already, sandbars along your favorite river are highly productive...probably the most productive outside of digs in known spots we've worked.
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In reply to BrazosDog02 • 9:04p, 5/22/17
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BrazosDog02 said:
3. Some of the coolest points (Perdiz) from quartz I have ever found came from locations that would have fined the **** out of me if they knew. I don't condone the behavior or actively destroy sites but I won't let one go if I run across it off the beaten path in a wash.
lol ok
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9:09p, 5/22/17
Yes, I want in on this too! I'll bring the beers!
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In reply to raidernarizona • 9:31p, 5/22/17
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Good friend of mine who has dug Central Texas for 40 years --it's what he does every weekend--says Nacho is a good guy.
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9:38p, 5/22/17
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Nacho is a great name for a artifact digger.
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In reply to hillcountryag86 • 9:47p, 5/22/17
Might have to hire our resident PI to find this "nacho" !
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9:48p, 5/22/17
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FWIW, if it is much bigger than an inch wide and a couple inches long, it is probably an atl dart point, and not an arrowhead. Native American arrowheads were rarely large.
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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 9:49p, 5/22/17
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MouthBQ98 said:
FWIW, if it is much bigger than an inch wide and a couple inches long, it is probably an atl dart point, and not an arrowhead. Native American arrowheads were rarely large.
The folks doing the diggin don't differntiate between them, nor do they care about the contextual significance of any of that.
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9:55p, 5/22/17
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Shumla School
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9:56p, 5/22/17
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I've found a few around Lake Somerville while bank fishing, and idly searching through the shoreline rocks.

I also found a nice Gary point (that I somehow subsequently lost when I moved) in Cypress Creek in a gravel patch.
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In reply to rather be fishing • 10:00p, 5/22/17
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rather be fishing said:
BrazosDog02 said:
3. Some of the coolest points (Perdiz) from quartz I have ever found came from locations that would have fined the **** out of me if they knew. I don't condone the behavior or actively destroy sites but I won't let one go if I run across it off the beaten path in a wash.
lol ok
I just can't seem to let this go. You are fervently admitting that you will do anything you can do dig points out for your monetary gain while circumventing the landowner. You realize that if you did any of this on a state or federal property it's highly illegal? Stop trying to act like you're doing the right thing but admitting that that you're doing the complete opposite.
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In reply to rather be fishing • 10:19p, 5/22/17
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rather be fishing said:
BrazosDog02 said:
3. Some of the coolest points (Perdiz) from quartz I have ever found came from locations that would have fined the **** out of me if they knew. I don't condone the behavior or actively destroy sites but I won't let one go if I run across it off the beaten path in a wash.
lol ok


It's not funny at all. Ever wonder why you have to look at cave paintings from 300 yards away but professional organizations and hard science majors can walk right yo to them...yeah...that's why..because **** bags ruin them when left to their own accords. It's also why the paying public has to stick to the trails...it blows.
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10:29p, 5/22/17
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I'm not discounting the private land aspect of any of this, but you seem to partially acknowledge that while admitting to circumventing landowner wishes while getting your grubby hands on whatever artifacts you can find.
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In reply to nealan • 10:29p, 5/22/17
I've found that most of these guys do not necesarilly want to be Found. Most of them know that digging for artifacts is controversial. I love to dig and have been to multiple digs including Nacho. if they are honest and have good properties, they don't have to chase down diggers. I don't want to say it's hush, hush, .... but my opinion is that they aren't running around advertising. There's obviously valid points and strong opinions concerning digging/collecting. I have the bug and have an 11 year old boy who has it too, and can tell you about anything you want to know about most any point he sees. (type, age, how rare it is, recognition of camp sites, etc.) It's been great for us.
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10:31p, 5/22/17
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And anything you say about an academic group blocking access to something that deserves to be protected from modern day tomb raiders is BS. There's a reason the meth heads I went to high school with shouldn't be allowed access to some places.
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10:36p, 5/22/17
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I'll leave myself out of anything further, but professionals cataloging artifacts is the only thing that will accurately record a site because I guarantee you "Nacho" only knows what puts money in his pocket.

And people raping the land for artifacts helps no one except for the digger.

I fully acknowledge that as a landowner you have no obligation to divulge artifacts on your property, and I have to admit that I would have a hard time letting others know about it on my own land, but I think it would be hard for me to charge people to came sift though backhoe buckets on my land.
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In reply to rather be fishing • 11:02p, 5/22/17
You do have valid points. I'm a landowner and would never lease out my property to be dug. I know of sites that do need to be dug and cataloged and I recognize the value of that. There are also sites that I believe are being swallowed up by urban sprawl everyday and will be lost forever. I'm not advocating digging, but I don't think it is going away any time soon. Again, there are sites that are much more historically important/valuable and definitely do not need to be pay dug. Super controversial.
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11:22p, 5/22/17
Personally, I'm not talking about digging up Sacagawea's outhouse or anything. Just picking up a few arrowheads in a creek bed. Some of you fellas need to relax
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In reply to Rhwill1973 • 11:22p, 5/22/17
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Rhwill1973 said:
You do have valid points. I'm a landowner and would never lease out my property to be dug. I know of sites that do need to be dug and cataloged and I recognize the value of that. There are also sites that I believe are being swallowed up by urban sprawl everyday and will be lost forever. I'm not advocating digging, but I don't think it is going away any time soon. Again, there are sites that are much more historically important/valuable and definitely do not need to be pay dug. Super controversial.
If you think it's supper important, contact a local group to come out and do the cataloging FOR FREE (cause they will do that). They will also give you every artifact they find, since they don;t hold any rights to owning them.

All you are doing as a landowner is allowing a professional to catalogue what is present on your propserty. It doesn't mean you are subjugated to any kind of regulation. It just means that the archeological artifacts can be recorded by someone who actually knows what the hell they are doing instead of Jim-Bob who will sells 1 out of every 10 maybe and atlatl point he finds and instead it just goes into a barrell of Jim-Bob's poor life choices.

Pretending to know what you're doing by digging up arrowheads is the farthest from the best thing you can do.
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In reply to Rhwill1973 • 11:23p, 5/22/17
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Rhwill1973 said:
You do have valid points. I'm a landowner and would never lease out my property to be dug. I know of sites that do need to be dug and cataloged and I recognize the value of that. There are also sites that I believe are being swallowed up by urban sprawl everyday and will be lost forever. I'm not advocating digging, but I don't think it is going away any time soon. Again, there are sites that are much more historically important/valuable and definitely do not need to be pay dug. Super controversial.
If you know of something that is closer to civilization than the property you are familiar with, meth heads have already been digging it. That is a fact.
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11:54p, 5/22/17
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We have had some jackass trespassing and digging on family land for years. Ran him off and had him arrested but he shows back up. Digging huge trenches and being a royal PITA.
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12:00a, 5/23/17
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Fwiw, a native american could knock out a basic arrowhead in 10 minutes, which is why you can have hundreds of thousands of modern day people finding millions of them, knowing there are tens of millions more out there.

There are of course some extraordinarily finely made or unique pieces, but the only ones really worth much to an archaeologist are very old ones, or ones found in place at a campsite or periodic dwelling or working area.

There is flint or chirt all over texas, so there was plenty of material to make them with.
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In reply to mpl35 • 12:00a, 5/23/17
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mpl35 said:
We have had some jackass trespassing and digging on family land for years. Ran him off and had him arrested but he shows back up. Digging huge trenches and being a royal PITA.
That's because he can do it with little risk of being shot and or arrested and still find things to sell for meth.

Be strict on those SOBs and you can put an end to that BS. Some people don't seem to realize that scouring stream beds is actually trespassing and punishable by jail time.

You want the off of your land, call the Sheriff's Dept. and have plenty of 12 gauge shells on hand.
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In reply to rather be fishing • 12:53a, 5/23/17
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rather be fishing said:
mpl35 said:
We have had some jackass trespassing and digging on family land for years. Ran him off and had him arrested but he shows back up. Digging huge trenches and being a royal PITA.
That's because he can do it with little risk of being shot and or arrested and still find things to sell for meth.

Be strict on those SOBs and you can put an end to that BS. Some people don't seem to realize that scouring stream beds is actually trespassing and punishable by jail time.

You want the off of your land, call the Sheriff's Dept. and have plenty of 12 gauge shells on hand.


It's tough. Nobody lives there and it is heavily wooded. Shame because it has(d) tons of items.
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