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7:35a, 5/12/17
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SAN ANTONIO As they patrol their Northwest Bexar County neighborhoods, a group of armed homeowners is putting criminals on notice.
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They suit up in body armor, carry rifles and communicate through radios. Their vehicles are marked with CDU signage. Bryan said the volunteers don't usually wear masks.

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"Lord help you if we run into you," Bryan said. "Hopefully, if you're lucky, the cops will run into you before we will."
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You can sign up or donate money to help the cause at http://cdupatrol.com/
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7:39a, 5/12/17
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Gotta love the use of the punisher logo on the website.
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In reply to powerbelly • 7:46a, 5/12/17
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powerbelly51 said:
Gotta love the use of the punisher logo on the website.
It pairs nicely with the 5 Finger Death Punch video
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7:47a, 5/12/17
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The photo gallery is a nice touch.
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7:47a, 5/12/17
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15 OB regulars just got erections so hard that they passed out and are comatose laying on the floor.
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7:57a, 5/12/17
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I predict they'll eventually have an encounter with someone that ends badly for all involved. If you wanna be a cop, join the local PD.

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"Lord help you if we run into you," Bryan said. "Hopefully, if you're lucky, the cops will run into you before we will."


Also not smart of them to make a comment like this to the media. If they do end up killing someone, statements like this can and will be used against them.
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In reply to Hoss • 7:59a, 5/12/17
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I predict they'll eventually have an encounter with someone that ends badly for all involved. If you wanna be a cop, join the local PD.
Unfortunately this is probably correct. I wonder what the cops think about this?
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In reply to Rockdoc • 8:04a, 5/12/17
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Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar, whose deputies are responsible for protecting the area where the CDU operates, said: "Of course, we would prefer that they would call us if time allows and that they would be good witnesses rather than taking the law into their own hands."
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In reply to Hoss • 8:06a, 5/12/17
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This whole thing sounds like a terrible idea on their part.

They could probably hire a constable for what they're spending to "patrol" on their own
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In reply to Hoss • 8:07a, 5/12/17
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I don't completely disagree with you, but sometimes old west "justice" helps get rid of rats.
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8:27a, 5/12/17
I wonder if they all have matching "Sheepdog" tattoos.
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9:12a, 5/12/17
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Hahahaha.

No thanks.
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In reply to Sean98 • 9:14a, 5/12/17
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Sean98 said:
15 OB regulars just got erections so hard that they passed out and are comatose laying on the floor.


Thread so far seems to indicate the opposite.

It's always fun to see your disconnect from reality though.
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9:47a, 5/12/17
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Yeah, this sounds like a FANTASTIC idea! What could ever go wrong?!?!?!
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11:53a, 5/12/17
I'm all for forming a crime deterrent group but this isn't the best way to do it. I would think:

  • Provide firearm education/CCL to your community
  • Provide Information to your neighbors of ways they can reduce crime
  • Create a database of external cameras in your neighborhood that might be useful for law enforcement (ie my neighborhood has two entrances and exits with a low volume of users. We set up two cameras that take pictures of all license plates that come and go).
  • Get to know your neighbors and meet regularly so you can talk about issues. I grill burgers once a month in the summer and have all the neighbors over.
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12:21p, 5/12/17
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Hate to say it, seems to me it's a bunch of guys that can't let Iraq or Afghanistan go.
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In reply to OnlyForNow • 12:43p, 5/12/17
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OnlyForNow said:
I don't completely disagree with you, but sometimes old west "justice" helps get rid of rats.


While true, old west justice can also land you in prison. Or worse. Generally speaking I don't think it's a good idea to go out looking for trouble, which is exactly what these guys are doing.

More gems from that article...

"They suit up in body armor, carry rifles and communicate through radios. Their vehicles are marked with CDU signage."

"On a recent Sunday morning, about 10 men in three vehicles patrolled a handful of neighborhoods. Four guys walked on or near the sidewalk, someone in a car followed behind and a man in a pickup truck drove ahead of them as the scout unit. he other vehicle stopped by certain homes that have filled out paperwork with the group allowing volunteers to act as the homeowner, Bryan said."

"We do train people on felony arrest techniques and tactical handcuffing,"

"Statistics from the Bexar County Sheriff's Office show the two service areas that include the CDU's neighborhoods have actually seen an increase in crime."

These guys are a joke. They just don't know it.
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1:21p, 5/12/17
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the mean streets of alamo ranch and talley road
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2:22p, 5/12/17
""We do train people on felony arrest techniques and tactical handcuffing," Bryan said.

A citizen's arrest is legal when an individual witnesses a felony in progress."

FALSE! Restraining an individual without proper licensing is illegal!
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In reply to BenderRodriguez • 2:47p, 5/12/17
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BenderRodriguez said:
Sean98 said:
15 OB regulars just got erections so hard that they passed out and are comatose laying on the floor.


Thread so far seems to indicate the opposite.

It's always fun to see your disconnect from reality though.
Duh. Because they're in a coma still.
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3:45p, 5/12/17
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Certain cities have a citizens patrol unit they authorize. Most, or probably all, would restrict the units from carrying any kind of firearms. Since I'm armed most of the time, I don't want to be in a position with a uniform on and not be armed, so I pass on these opportunities.

I think for one of these units to be successful, you need to form a security company and have everyone licensed as security guards.
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In reply to PorkEatingCrusader • 3:58p, 5/12/17
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PorkEatingCrusader said:
""We do train people on felony arrest techniques and tactical handcuffing," Bryan said.

A citizen's arrest is legal when an individual witnesses a felony in progress."

FALSE! Restraining an individual without proper licensing is illegal!
Incorrect.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CR/htm/CR.14.htm

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Art. 14.01. OFFENSE WITHIN VIEW. (a) A peace officer or any other person, may, without a warrant, arrest an offender when the offense is committed in his presence or within his view, if the offense is one classed as a felony or as an offense against the public peace.
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In reply to Sean98 • 4:05p, 5/12/17
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Sean98 said:
BenderRodriguez said:
Sean98 said:
15 OB regulars just got erections so hard that they passed out and are comatose laying on the floor.


Thread so far seems to indicate the opposite.

It's always fun to see your disconnect from reality though.
Duh. Because they're in a coma still.


Are these those 4 hour boners they keep talking about during football games?
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In reply to FrontPorchAg • 4:10p, 5/12/17
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Mtn_Guide said:
I'm all for forming a crime deterrent group but this isn't the best way to do it. I would think:

  • Provide firearm education/CCL to your community
  • Provide Information to your neighbors of ways they can reduce crime
  • Create a database of external cameras in your neighborhood that might be useful for law enforcement (ie my neighborhood has two entrances and exits with a low volume of users. We set up two cameras that take pictures of all license plates that come and go).
  • Get to know your neighbors and meet regularly so you can talk about issues. I grill burgers once a month in the summer and have all the neighbors over.


I live in San Antonio. Saw this story last night and thought these guys were asking for trouble. I was reminded of a meeting I went to a few years ago where our neighborhood SAFFE officer was coordinating neighbors for the COP program. They basically told everyone what to look for and if they saw anything to call the cops. Do not intervene.

Most of the people there were just nosy neighbors looking for an excuse to peek in other people's backyards.
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5:52p, 5/12/17
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5:55p, 5/12/17
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and yeah...these are a bunch of wannabe dorks with too much time on their hands.
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In reply to 91AggieLawyer • 7:18p, 5/12/17
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91AggieLawyer said:
Certain cities have a citizens patrol unit they authorize. Most, or probably all, would restrict the units from carrying any kind of firearms. Since I'm armed most of the time, I don't want to be in a position with a uniform on and not be armed, so I pass on these opportunities.

I think for one of these units to be successful, you need to form a security company and have everyone licensed as security guards.
I'd love to sign up for one of the programs that allows citizens to write handicap and fire lane tickets. I believe the Precinct 5 Constable's office in Austin does it along with other agencies in DFW and Houston. There are too many larger issues for the police to deal with than these types of violations, but there's no way would I do a citizen's patrol, in a city owned vehicle that looks like a police car, without being able to carry some type of firearm and protect myself. Let the police be the police in those situations
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7:55p, 5/12/17
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Honestly, if I was a thief, I would love knowing these guys were around. There would observe for houses they interacted with. Pretty much a garuntee there would be a false sense of security. In fact, I'd probably get my own t-shirts made to imitate them.
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In reply to ursusguy • 8:14p, 5/12/17
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ursusguy said:
Honestly, if I was a thief, I would love knowing these guys were around. There would observe for houses they interacted with. Pretty much a garuntee there would be a false sense of security. In fact, I'd probably get my own t-shirts made to imitate them.


If you're looking to steal guns, hit those houses. Next hit the houses where the cars out front have NRA stickers.
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