An awful lot is being read into these gangs. Bottom line is they aren't very smart and they're ill humored. They likely don't even understand half the symbols they wear.
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Celtic cross, another symbol that's very popular with the white supremacist crowd.
quote:Tradition. Loyalty.
Do any of these gangs not have better taste in logo design? Every logo looks like some cartoon character; not very ferocious or intimidating if you ask me.
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Celtic cross, another symbol that's very popular with the white supremacist crowd.
Well I'm not a member of the 1% or "white supremacist crowd" and neither is my SO. BUT she wears a Celtic cross from time to time- part of MY heritage!!
quote:Under and Alone is a very good read for anyone interested at an inside look into these gangs. Written by a cop in SoCal who got inside the Monguls (highlighted in the first link).quote:It has happened three known times. They may have more in addition.quote:FBI agent on the Fox news program at lunch saying it's tough to get UCs into the 1% clubs. Primarily because in order to become a full patch member Ann's certainly to get into an inner circle to be of any use to law enforcement, they things they'd have too do might be unacceptable.
I wonder how many UC's were actually there with the actual clubs!
Again, just parroting the FBI guy on TV.
http://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/the-cop-who-infiltrated-southern-californias-most-notorious-biker-gangs/
http://www.history.com/shows/gangland-undercover/articles/charles-falco
quote:No but you did say this!!!!!!!!
, but those two symbols both being used is a pretty good indication.
quote:quote:No but you did say this!!!!!!!!
, but those two symbols both being used is a pretty good indication.
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How much pride do you have in your Aggie ring, your degree, your Association of Former Students membership? You worked had for those symbols, and you are proud of what you did to earn them and the group that you belong to. Telling a club not to wear their patches and such would be like telling an Aggie not to wear his ring, not tohang his degree up, to take off his Association sticker, to never wear maroon, and to not tell anyone that they are an Aggie.
If a group of Aggies get into a shootout with a bunch of LSU fans at a Waffle House over who claims Houston and 9 people die, you might have a point.
Until then......lol.
quote:That is a load off my mind. SO is redhead-not OMC- and Celtic cross... and HELL no no rule#1
If you're a redheaded chick who's not in a gang wearing a celtic cross, you're probably not.
quote:It's from Tyler, TX. They just took the name from the Russian group.quote:
I've heard they do that to push the boundries of society and push buttons but who knows. I know it is a fairly new gang from Russia. Not something I would be a part of.
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An awful lot is being read into these gangs. Bottom line is they aren't very smart and they're ill humored. They likely don't even understand half the symbols they wear.
quote:Maybe I am wrong, but I thought your link just said that all were Bandidos and Cossacks. I never saw where they said how the numbers played out between the two MCs. No?
02 all the others were Bandidos. at least per the link I posted earlier.
quote:Unfortunately in the public eye, it could almost be. One kid from Tech decides to spraypaint the MSC grass and you've got folks ready to burn their entire campus down. That one incident will be brought up time and time again. The actions of one will stain the reputation of thousands.
Not every MC was involved in this shooting, or any other. Using your hypothetical as an example, Trying to group every MC or riding organization into the same group as those who perpetrated this act is like trying to blame every college student (biker wearing a patch) or even every SEC school (MC) for the actions of one small group.
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Scimitar and Gypsy from the pics I saw. Not sure the fifth
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Mav I saw a pic of the Gypsy but no one has publicly confirmed. I have 2 Gypsy's on my street and easy to spot their jackets. Unless there are more then one all yellow vests.
quote:Police also reported "hundreds" of weapons. Now they are reporting 50. I'm going off the different patches I have seen in pics and what I know of COC meetings. There were a lot more than 5 clubs present.
Mav police reporting only 5
quote:quote:I call BS. Big and powerful, yes. The rest, not so much. That's the Cadillac of tractors. Should have posted a picture of a 4020........lol...just messing with you.quote:
But if I want to spend hours on a big, loud, powerful machine that rattles my bones with every bump, takes me outdoors, vibrates the seat so violently that it takes hours to unwind when I get home, puts me out in the weather, etc. etc. etc.....I don't need to buy an extra vehicle or leave work.....
quote:Under and Alone is absolutely a very good read. I believe the author in the book that infiltrated the Mongols was actually ATF. The interesting thing from the book was that even though he knew these guys were scumbags and witnessed their scumbaggery, he also was growing close to some of them. The whole brotherhood thingy I suppose. Anyway, anyone who idolizes these 1% clubs is seriously misguided.quote:Under and Alone is a very good read for anyone interested at an inside look into these gangs. Written by a cop in SoCal who got inside the Monguls (highlighted in the first link).quote:It has happened three known times. They may have more in addition.quote:FBI agent on the Fox news program at lunch saying it's tough to get UCs into the 1% clubs. Primarily because in order to become a full patch member Ann's certainly to get into an inner circle to be of any use to law enforcement, they things they'd have too do might be unacceptable.
I wonder how many UC's were actually there with the actual clubs!
Again, just parroting the FBI guy on TV.
http://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/the-cop-who-infiltrated-southern-californias-most-notorious-biker-gangs/
http://www.history.com/shows/gangland-undercover/articles/charles-falco
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An analogy would be a competition BBQ team requiring to get permission from the Crips or Bloods to get a banner and team shirts made. Why the hell would they associate themselves with that type of organization?