We can only hope.AtlAg05 said:
Will he be forced to sell?
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An investigation into the Jupiter spa began in October.
Women, many of them from China, lived in the spa and were not permitted to leave, according to Martin County Sheriff Will Snyder.
The owner of that spa, Hua Zhang, 58, of Winter Garden, was arrested and charged with deriving support from the proceeds of prostitution, keeping and frequenting a house of prostitution and 26 counts of procuring for prostitution.
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"They were cooking on the back steps of the business. These women were sleeping in massage parlors, on the massage tables and had no access to transportation," said Synder, who noted the victims were averaging eight clients a day. "If you do the math, that is about 1,500 men a year, with no days off."
AustinAg2012 said:
"sex acts in a massage parlor"
swc93 said:
NFL going to make him sell the team?
Guarantee the other owners are going to jump on this like sharks.
Texan_Aggie said:
That's not the point here. The others weren't caught.
LIke they did w/ Jerry Richardson? What about Sterling in the NBA?DallasAggie0 said:Texan_Aggie said:
That's not the point here. The others weren't caught.
The owners are going to mind their own business.
And two different Bentleys at that.ac04 said:
nothing classier than taking the bentley down to the strip mall whack palace
Macarthur said:LIke they did w/ Jerry Richardson? What about Sterling in the NBA?DallasAggie0 said:Texan_Aggie said:
That's not the point here. The others weren't caught.
The owners are going to mind their own business.
I don't know what will happen but for you to be so cavalier in saying they won't even bat an eye, seems really shortsighted.
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Police say the spas were fronts for prostitution, that the workers there were victims of sex trafficking, and that their six-month long investigation was time well spent.
Six months is a long time, however, and it's hard to reconcile the cops' timeline with their heroic rhetoric. If the women employed at these businesses were really the victims of "modern slavery," why did police take six months to get them out of that situation? Why did it require repeat intimate undercover visits and building misdemeanor prostitution charges against all sorts of random men before these "heroes" decided to intervene?
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At a press conference (partially aired on CNN) today, Palm Beach District Attorney Dave Aronberg spent most of his time talking about the theoretical horrors that could occur in situations like this.
"Modern day slavery," as Aronberg called it, "can happen anywhere, including in the peaceful community of Jupiter."
However, no human trafficking charges were filed among the hundreds of (current and coming) prostitution charges, he admitted, adding that first-time offenders (like Robert Kraft) are "very unlikely to get any significant" time behind bars.
"There's no allegation that any defendant engaged in human trafficking," said Aronberg.
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Martin County Sheriff Snyder told CNN today that police were having trouble getting one woman in custody to "cooperate" in explaining why they would "go and allow themselves to be trafficked."
"They had the ability, they could've walked out into the street and asked for help," he continued, noting that they often worked long hours and cooked food on a hot-plate instead of leaving for meals. "But they didn't."
Instead of taking this as a sign that these women were willingly engaging in this work, police continue to seek ways to explain away this evidence. (And the CNN host asked why they wouldn't "speak their truth.") Snyder claims that one woman said she was afraid people might hurt her family if she cooperated.
This type of claim is made regularly by police in these sorts of investigations. That is convenient, considering they're the only ones allowed to talk to any of the alleged victims and it's an explanation no one can verify, unlike initial claims from law enforcementnow countered by Synderthat massage parlor workers weren't allowed to leave.
Not even remotely the same thing. Seriously, who gives a **** about prostitution these days much less a bunch of rich schmucks who all probably do the same thing.Macarthur said:LIke they did w/ Jerry Richardson? What about Sterling in the NBA?DallasAggie0 said:Texan_Aggie said:
That's not the point here. The others weren't caught.
The owners are going to mind their own business.
I don't know what will happen but for you to be so cavalier in saying they won't even bat an eye, seems really shortsighted.
I think it's a bit early for you to make this proclomation.ORAggieFan said:
I said early on there is no sex trafficking. That is what law enforcement uses to waste taxpayer money here. You think they gather six months of evidence if people or being used that way? On Kraft's arrest the "victim" was the city. GMAFB!
No victim, no crime.
MelvinUdall said:Macarthur said:LIke they did w/ Jerry Richardson? What about Sterling in the NBA?DallasAggie0 said:Texan_Aggie said:
That's not the point here. The others weren't caught.
The owners are going to mind their own business.
I don't know what will happen but for you to be so cavalier in saying they won't even bat an eye, seems really shortsighted.
Those situations aren't mutually exclusive to the Kraft issue. If it is found that Kraft was aware about the sex trafficking or the woman was underage, that would be absolute grounds for a forced sale. I am in no way condoning his actions, and if the league determines to force him to sale, I am totally fine with it, I just don't believe it is similar to the situations that you referenced.
DallasAggie0 said:Not even remotely the same thing. Seriously, who gives a **** about prostitution these days much less a bunch of rich schmucks who all probably do the same thing.Macarthur said:LIke they did w/ Jerry Richardson? What about Sterling in the NBA?DallasAggie0 said:Texan_Aggie said:
That's not the point here. The others weren't caught.
The owners are going to mind their own business.
I don't know what will happen but for you to be so cavalier in saying they won't even bat an eye, seems really shortsighted.
It won't be. This is the norm in these cases. Cops use a potential horrible crime as reason to investigate, then just bust people for prostitution.Macarthur said:DallasAggie0 said:Not even remotely the same thing. Seriously, who gives a **** about prostitution these days much less a bunch of rich schmucks who all probably do the same thing.Macarthur said:LIke they did w/ Jerry Richardson? What about Sterling in the NBA?DallasAggie0 said:Texan_Aggie said:
That's not the point here. The others weren't caught.
The owners are going to mind their own business.
I don't know what will happen but for you to be so cavalier in saying they won't even bat an eye, seems really shortsighted.
While the offenses are not the same, the point still remains as I mentioned above.
Virtually everyone on here has said they have no issue with run of the mill prostitution. Depending on where this story leads, it COULD be way more than that.
ORAggieFan said:It won't be. This is the norm in these cases. Cops use a potential horrible crime as reason to investigate, then just bust people for prostitution.Macarthur said:DallasAggie0 said:Not even remotely the same thing. Seriously, who gives a **** about prostitution these days much less a bunch of rich schmucks who all probably do the same thing.Macarthur said:LIke they did w/ Jerry Richardson? What about Sterling in the NBA?DallasAggie0 said:Texan_Aggie said:
That's not the point here. The others weren't caught.
The owners are going to mind their own business.
I don't know what will happen but for you to be so cavalier in saying they won't even bat an eye, seems really shortsighted.
While the offenses are not the same, the point still remains as I mentioned above.
Virtually everyone on here has said they have no issue with run of the mill prostitution. Depending on where this story leads, it COULD be way more than that.
Ask yourself this, if there was true trafficking and girls weren't allowed to leave, do they sit on this six months? They did this to keep getting more johns.