M*******s

Third straight super bowl.

I knew they would win one way or the other when KC scored and left 2 mins on the clock.

So predictable

I'll skip the game this year. Board with them.

Are you East Coast or West Coast?

Amazing Moves said:

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I'll skip the game this year. Board with them.

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Wake, snow or paddle?

I'll be rooting for Josh Reyonlds and the Rams!!

Steelers fan. Read the board more often.

Why?

Not a fan of them but this is impressive. Gota admit that much.

GOATs

I can't help wondering what the outcome would have been if KC had won the OT coin toss.

Bunk Moreland said:

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Don't hate the player, hate the game.

And hate the dolphins, jets and bills for being laughing stocks for the better part of 2 decades.

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I'm a huge Dolphin fan. How do you think I feel? Blue star for an accurate post, btw.

The Patriots are the Crimson Tide of professional football.

Bunk Moreland said:

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Don't hate the player, hate the game.

And hate the dolphins, jets and bills for being laughing stocks for the better part of 2 decades.

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The Patriots would still be very good.....but they would not win 11 consecutive division titles if they played in the NFC East.

The media attention in Philly, New York, Washington DC and Dallas would be unruly if one team dominated the division for 20 years.

Bigsteve said:

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Ugh

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You were expecting a different outcome?

Kellso said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Don't hate the player, hate the game.

And hate the dolphins, jets and bills for being laughing stocks for the better part of 2 decades.

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The Patriots would still be very good.....but they would not win 11 consecutive division titles if they played in any other division in football.

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FIFY

otni said:

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I can't help wondering what the outcome would have been if KC had won the OT coin toss.

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Mahomes would have scored a touchdown.

Bunk Moreland said:

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Kellso said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Don't hate the player, hate the game.

And hate the dolphins, jets and bills for being laughing stocks for the better part of 2 decades.

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The Patriots would still be very good.....but they would not win 11 consecutive division titles if they played in any other division in football.

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FIFY

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Not true, he probably would have steam rolled the AFC North and South Divisions during that time span as well....

AG@RICE said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Kellso said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Don't hate the player, hate the game.

And hate the dolphins, jets and bills for being laughing stocks for the better part of 2 decades.

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The Patriots would still be very good.....but they would not win 11 consecutive division titles if they played in any other division in football.

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FIFY

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Not true, he probably would have steam rolled the AFC North and South Divisions during that time span as well....

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They would have still been good and he may have won the same amount of super bowls, but there's zero chance they'd have had the consistency they enjoy in the AFC East imo. I could maybe see the argument for the AFC South though but with Pitt/Baltimore...unless you swapped one of them instead of Cincy/Cleveland they dont' enjoy that success, and even if they were left with 1 of pitt/bal they still wouldn't have had it.

He is 19-5 against the Steelers/Ravens...the dolphins put up a better fight.

He wouldn't be 19-5 if he played each or either team twice a year. It's not apples to apples.

Bunk Moreland said:

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He wouldn't be 19-5 if he played each or either team twice a year. It's not apples to apples.

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He'd probably have a better record because Belichick would know them as opponents better.

Bunk Moreland said:

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Don't hate the player, hate the game.

And hate the dolphins, jets and bills for being laughing stocks for the better part of 2 decades.

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this x 1,000

aggie-master said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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He wouldn't be 19-5 if he played each or either team twice a year. It's not apples to apples.

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He'd probably have a better record because Belichick would know them as opponents better.

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And they'd know the Pats better. Works both ways.

in the 17 years since we went to 4 divisions, here's the average wins per season for all teams in AFC North/East not counting NE:

Steelers: 175 wins/ 10.29 wins per year
Ravens: 154 wins/ 9.06 wins per year
Bengals: 133 wins/ 7.82 wins per year
Dolphins: 122 wins/7.18 wins per year
Jets: 122 wins/7.18 wins per year
Bills: 116 wins/ 6.82 wins per year
Browns: 83 wins: 4.88 wins per year

Other than the lowly browns, the 3 in the AFC North averaged more wins per year than the 3 non Patriots teams in the AFC East, 2 of them by a massive margin.

The Bengals/Ravens/Steelers have a combined 25 double digit win seasons over that period.

The Dolphins/Jets/Bills have a combined 7.

Again...they're still the greatest dynasty of all time. But they have been aided by incredibly consistent mediocrity from their division for a long, long time. But damn are they impressive.

otni said:

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I can't help wondering what the outcome would have been if KC had won the OT coin toss.

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They would have kicked a field goal, then the Pats would have gotten the ball back and scored a touchdown after Brady completed three straight 3rd-and-10s.