Sulphur Springs TX is getting, I am told, the largest pending build of a new center. And their city budget, by memory, will go from $6M to something like $400M.

So I would assume the people in Sulphur will be pretty happy.

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I "hear" the city is saying the residents will not longer have to pay for garbage etc. I will believe that when I see it but come on, free garbage people.

Elon says space data centers will be cost less per capacity than terrestrial data centers within about 3 years, and without any of the environmental and resource headaches. We'll see…

TAMUallen said:

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Data centers are going to be such an issue for electricity grids

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Most maga-size data centers are installing their own generation and not even connecting to any grid. But many mid-size ones are, so point is partially valid. Also, with the new high-powered severs being liquid cooled, they will just use a heat exchanger to a cooling tower. So, no refrigerated chiller and fin-fan coolers. The cooling towers will use much less electricity (for the cooling, not the chip power), so it's by far the cheaper way to go. But evaporative cooling does consume water, so in dry place like west Texas where cheap fuel gas exists wil, indeed, need to manage the water consumption.

I see them going up everywhere in Arizona. Today my surprise I saw an interview with a developer in this space say one reason they're building so many here is the state is the only one with a 100 year water plan. Don't know if that's true but I found it interesting.

Deputy Travis Junior said:

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I don't understand the tension. Our country is gigantic. Plenty of room for data centers and farm land.

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Yeah, and, they will absolutely be required for our future lives, both near and far.

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Principal Uncertainty said:

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TAMUallen said:

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Data centers are going to be such an issue for electricity grids

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Most maga-size data centers are installing their own generation and not even connecting to any grid. But many mid-size ones are, so point is partially valid. Also, with the new high-powered severs being liquid cooled, they will just use a heat exchanger to a cooling tower. So, no refrigerated chiller and fin-fan coolers. The cooling towers will use much less electricity (for the cooling, not the chip power), so it's by far the cheaper way to go. But evaporative cooling does consume water, so in dry place like west Texas where cheap fuel gas exists wil, indeed, need to manage the water consumption.

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Most are going to a closed loop system with little water use.

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No, they are not. Closed loop chilling for the building envelope, but future servers will have liquid immersion for cooling with plate and frame heat exchangers directly to an evaporative cooling tower. They are in the prototype stage now, but will be the future of compute.

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Martels Hammer said:

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Sulphur Springs TX is getting, I am told, the largest pending build of a new center. And their city budget, by memory, will go from $6M to something like $400M.

So I would assume the people in Sulphur will be pretty happy.

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I "hear" the city is saying the residents will not longer have to pay for garbage etc. I will believe that when I see it but come on, free garbage people.

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Grifters are really good at selling dreams.

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If you've got any inside information, I would love to hear it. I don't live there, but I know a few folks that do.

More nuclear reactors and more data centers please! I have lots of code to "write".

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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TAMUallen said:

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Data centers are going to be such an issue for electricity grids

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Good. We need a real problem to galvanize us and cure our country of its NIMBY paralysis. I'm tired of watching China race ahead in functioning infrastructure because we require ten years of permitting and environmental impact studies to widen a ****ing sidewalk.

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Ehhh nothing goes that easily but fingers crossed. Bring in a bunch of nuclear plants

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This is the answer, small modular ones. I believe A&M is fixin to start doing some research in this area.

Deputy Travis Junior said:

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TAMUallen said:

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Data centers are going to be such an issue for electricity grids

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Good. We need a real problem to galvanize us and cure our country of its NIMBY paralysis. I'm tired of watching China race ahead in functioning infrastructure because we require ten years of permitting and environmental impact studies to widen a ****ing sidewalk.

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Maybe you should move to China where there are no private property rights?

HTownAg98 said:

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You have to have reliable power and water infrastructure nearby. Hence why not every piece of dirt is suitable for a data center.

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AI data ctr cooling is closed loop. Water needs are not the issue.

Why not out the data centers on the poles to melt the ice caps for all the fresh water? The polar bears would return to normal color saving the grizzlies and penguins is nasty anyways.

Trump
Is fixing it.

Deputy Travis Junior said:

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TAMUallen said:

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Data centers are going to be such an issue for electricity grids

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Good. We need a real problem to galvanize us and cure our country of its NIMBY paralysis. I'm tired of watching China race ahead in functioning infrastructure because we require ten years of permitting and environmental impact studies to widen a ****ing sidewalk.

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we have way more data centers than China. Even they arent dumb enough to ruin their country with these things.

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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TAMUallen said:

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Data centers are going to be such an issue for electricity grids

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Good. We need a real problem to galvanize us and cure our country of its NIMBY paralysis. I'm tired of watching China race ahead in functioning infrastructure because we require ten years of permitting and environmental impact studies to widen a ****ing sidewalk.

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we have way more data centers than China. Even they arent dumb enough to ruin their country with these things.

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How so?

And you do understand what a closed loop water system is, right?

Lots of toilet flushes for the H1B workers that man these data centers

Martels Hammer said:

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Ironically made in a datacenter.

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Winner winner chicken dinner... Water intensive row crops next to a saguaro...

That's Artificial (un)Intelligence

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Deputy Travis Junior said:

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TAMUallen said:

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Data centers are going to be such an issue for electricity grids

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Good. We need a real problem to galvanize us and cure our country of its NIMBY paralysis. I'm tired of watching China race ahead in functioning infrastructure because we require ten years of permitting and environmental impact studies to widen a ****ing sidewalk.

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we have way more data centers than China. Even they arent dumb enough to ruin their country with these things.

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Respectfully, you don't have the first damn clue what they do and don't have in China.

Can't wait to hear about Data Center equity. That we're not building enough of them in minority neighborhoods.