Dissidents usually end up getting the Oswaldo Paya treatment like in Cuba.

It is my personal opinion that the separation of powers, an independent judiciary, and the Constitution/Bill of Rights allowed a dissident like Trump to return to the presidency.

Every single social, financial, political, entertainment, media, news, and educational institution in the country was set up against Trump and he still won.

This is the reason the Democrats constantly go after the Supreme Court and constantly say they want to pack it. Just look at Biden, Kamala, and the Democrats recent openly published plans to change the Supreme Court. In a country like Venezuela, the Supreme Tribunal of Justice happily does whatever the regime wants.

It is also quite shocking how similar Biden, Kamala, and the Democrats "reforms" to the Supreme Court of the United States are to the actual functioning structure of The Supreme Tribunal of Justice in Venezuela. Chavez with the 1999 constitution eliminated the Supreme Court of Justice of Venezuela and replaced it with the The Supreme Tribunal of Justice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Tribunal_of_Justice_(Venezuela)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-supreme-court-term-limits-code-conduct-limits-presidential-immunity

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-backs-harris-pushes-supreme-court-reform-pass-torch-speech-about-ending-2024-bid

Republicans must protect the Supreme Court and the Bill of Rights/Constitution at all costs.

TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

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Dissidents usually end up getting the Oswaldo Paya treatment like in Cuba.

It is my personal opinion that the separation of powers, an independent judiciary, and the Constitution/Bill of Rights allowed a dissident like Trump to return to the presidency.

Every single social, financial, political, entertainment, media, news, and educational institution in the country was set up against Trump and he still won.

This is the reason the Democrats constantly go after the Supreme Court and constantly say they want to pack it. Just look at Biden, Kamala, and the Democrats recent openly published plans to change the Supreme Court. In a country like Venezuela, the Supreme Tribunal of Justice happily does whatever the regime wants.

It is also quite shocking how similar Biden, Kamala, and the Democrats "reforms" to the Supreme Court of the United States are to the actual functioning structure of The Supreme Tribunal of Justice in Venezuela. Chavez with the 1999 constitution eliminated the Supreme Court of Justice of Venezuela and replaced it with the The Supreme Tribunal of Justice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Tribunal_of_Justice_(Venezuela)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-supreme-court-term-limits-code-conduct-limits-presidential-immunity

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-backs-harris-pushes-supreme-court-reform-pass-torch-speech-about-ending-2024-bid

Republicans must protect the Supreme Court and the Bill of Rights/Constitution at all costs.

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Trump won for one primary reason, the horrible economy and one secondary reason, immigration. People who voted for him this time but not before just didn't buy into the idea that Harris was going to get things done. It was more an admonishment of her and the Dems and not so much some full throated change to a conservative stance. The number of people that voted for Trump but then other dems down ballot was much larger this time. And there were many financial, political, media etc sources that were set up specifically to support the Republican nominee....even if deep down they hoped it wouldn't be Trump again. The number of politicians that bit their tongue and publicly supported him increased. I mean look at Vance and Kennedy who both called Trump Hitler in the recent past and now supported him. Trump....as the R nominee....had plenty of support. But I do agree that our separation of powers allowed things to play out as they should and I hope they continue to.

BluHorseShu said:

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TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

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Dissidents usually end up getting the Oswaldo Paya treatment like in Cuba.

It is my personal opinion that the separation of powers, an independent judiciary, and the Constitution/Bill of Rights allowed a dissident like Trump to return to the presidency.

Every single social, financial, political, entertainment, media, news, and educational institution in the country was set up against Trump and he still won.

This is the reason the Democrats constantly go after the Supreme Court and constantly say they want to pack it. Just look at Biden, Kamala, and the Democrats recent openly published plans to change the Supreme Court. In a country like Venezuela, the Supreme Tribunal of Justice happily does whatever the regime wants.

It is also quite shocking how similar Biden, Kamala, and the Democrats "reforms" to the Supreme Court of the United States are to the actual functioning structure of The Supreme Tribunal of Justice in Venezuela. Chavez with the 1999 constitution eliminated the Supreme Court of Justice of Venezuela and replaced it with the The Supreme Tribunal of Justice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Tribunal_of_Justice_(Venezuela)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-calls-supreme-court-term-limits-code-conduct-limits-presidential-immunity

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-backs-harris-pushes-supreme-court-reform-pass-torch-speech-about-ending-2024-bid

Republicans must protect the Supreme Court and the Bill of Rights/Constitution at all costs.

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Trump won for one primary reason, the horrible economy and one secondary reason, immigration. People who voted for him this time but not before just didn't buy into the idea that Harris was going to get things done. It was more an admonishment of her and the Dems and not so much some full throated change to a conservative stance. The number of people that voted for Trump but then other dems down ballot was much larger this time. And there were many financial, political, media etc sources that were set up specifically to support the Republican nominee....even if deep down they hoped it wouldn't be Trump again. The number of politicians that bit their tongue and publicly supported him increased. I mean look at Vance and Kennedy who both called Trump Hitler in the recent past and now supported him. Trump....as the R nominee....had plenty of support. But I do agree that our separation of powers allowed things to play out as they should and I hope they continue to.

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The Supreme Tribunal of Justice of Venezuela would have agreed with Colorado and other Democrats states and removed him from the ballot.

Also Trump survived two Oswaldo Paya attempts against him.

Trump survived 100s of politically motivated charges brought against him.

Trump received 85 percent negative coverage from the national mainstream news media while Kamala and the Democrats received 99 percent positive coverage from the mainstream national news media.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/coverage-trump-harris-presidential-race-most-lopsided-history-85-negative-trump-report

I do agree that Trump won because the Democrats absolutely failed on Inflation/high prices, illegal immigration, and violent crime.

However, Cruz won by a 4 times larger margin than in 2018 and only 2-2.5 points less than Abbott/Patrick/Paxton did in 2022. Republicans did well all around. McCormick won which is shocking considering that Casey and his dad are absolute loyalty in Pennsylvania. Sherrod Brown was also beloved in Ohio as was Tester in Montana because they pretended to be moderates while voting 100 percent with Biden and Democrats.

10-months ago people were debating whether the seizure of Trump's US passport was warranted.

Make it hurt.

Serious question...have you looked around the world? Seen who's in charge of various nations?

No, we live in a country where Marxists can hijack the party of stupid and there are almost enough immoral idiots to follow them to the total destruction of the greatest country the world has ever seen.

BQ78 said:

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Dissident? What official policy does Trump oppose?

If anything Biden is a dissident usurping congress on education loan forgiveness and his non-enforcement of immigration law.

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I am talking about dissident as in Trump being a persecuted political dissident like Oswaldo Paya.

No love for Javier Milei?

Make a Lefty's head explode by calling him the American Mandela.

BCG Disciple said:

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Netanyahu?

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You could add Winston Churchill's successful post-war come back after ousting in 1945.

Trump won because the Democrats failed on Inflation prices, illegal immigration, and violent crime.

Lula in Brazil was in the slammer for corruption stuff

doubledog said:

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France 1815 Napoleon

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Juan Peron also


I don't think Trump fans want to compare Trump to either Peron or Napoleon

President-elect Donald Trump is The United States of America's Oswaldo Paya if Oswaldo Paya survived and became President.

titan said:

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BCG Disciple said:

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Netanyahu?

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You could add Winston Churchill's successful post-war come back after ousting in 1945.

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First thing that came to my mind!

Seriously, though…

Lech Walesa in Poland.
Vaclev Havel in the Czech Republic

incumbent administrations around the world have been dropping like flies post-covid. this probably has more to do with trump riding the wave than anything particularly extraordinary about him specifically.

It does speak well for the US that the people were able to make the choice and not the elites this time around.

Not really the same thing, but Churchill, Harold Wilson, and Berlusconi each came back as leaders. Also Shinzo Abe.

Burdizzo said:

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doubledog said:

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France 1815 Napoleon

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Juan Peron also


I don't think Trump fans want to compare Trump to either Peron or Napoleon

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OP was looking for examples.

Obama and Biden and US Marxists in general are/were the dissidents imo by virtue of ignoring the official policy called the U.S. Constitution when they feel like it serves their purposes.

A more recent great speech about Cuban dissident Oslwado Paya by Ted Cruz.

Donald Trump is Oswaldo Paya if Oswaldo Paya survived and became President of Cuba.

I found it interesting that Megyn Kelly said that the packing of the supreme court is the event that should trigger mass US protests in the streets.

BQ78 said:

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Dissident? What official policy does Trump oppose?

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This. What makes Trump a dissident?

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

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I found it interesting that Megyn Kelly said that the packing of the supreme court is the event that should trigger mass US protests in the streets.

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Maybe as a start. States detaching should follow after that and some of the other alleged plans if they were to do that.

Nelson Mandela?