Trump plans on reviving the keystone xl pipeline

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Good trump.
nortex97
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LFG.
Bocephus
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Refining oil in Texas & creating thousands of jobs. LFG!!
TAMU ‘98 Ole Miss ‘21
Captain Pablo
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Are the materials still available?
B-1 83
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Good Trump. It is first and foremost a strategic pipeline. Now get us more modern refineries somehow.
Logos Stick
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Is this thing government subsidized? If not, and I can't complete it by the next presidential election, I'm not risking it. The Mental Illness Party will shut it down again.
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Logos Stick said:

Is this thing government subsidized? If not, and I can't complete it by the next presidential election, I'm not risking it. The Mental Illness Party will shut it down again.


Elon can get this project finished in a week.
Tex100
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Man! Who could have expected that?
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Captain Pablo said:

Are the materials still available?


They've sold off at least some material from the project. Not sure how much. My company bought some motors at a huge discount from their surplus dealer.
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Might have to incentivize it, and that's OK.
Trump will fix it.
Ferg
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At one point I had heard that the oil is now travelling on Warren Buffett's railroads, and its the equivalent of a half million cars emissions to move it that way vs pipeline.
FatZilla
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Called it
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3505901/
Burn-It
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TCE has been very public that even if DJT allowed permits to build, they have no intention to try because his term is too short to risk the left cancelling when he is out of office.
AKA 13-0
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Burn-It said:

TCE has been very public that even if DJT allowed permits to build, they have no intention to try because his term is too short to risk the left cancelling when he is out of office.
That's where the incentivation will have to come in.
Trump will fix it.
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God bless him! I hope this thing is up and running and we're depending on it by the time the next lefty promises the enviro-nazis they'll close it.
Muy
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To complete this project would Trump need to get the pipeline under federal control and do something legally to protect the project and ongoing usage of it?
The Kraken
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If that oil is still getting to market by other methods, what's the benefit other than for the owners of the pipeline? Would more oil be able to be moved to refineries?
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The Kraken said:

If that oil is still getting to market by other methods, what's the benefit other than for the owners of the pipeline? Would more oil be able to be moved to refineries?


More oil, safer, cheaper, and all the transport costs don't go to Warren Buffett.
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good
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Ferg said:

At one point I had heard that the oil is now travelling on Warren Buffett's railroads, and its the equivalent of a half million cars emissions to move it that way vs pipeline.
It was and is.

Environmental and Tribal Land reasons were just a cover. The real, behind the scenes reason was to keep the money train flowing for Buffet.
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Captain Pablo said:

Are the materials still available?


Most, if not all, of the pipe has either already been sold for other projects or has been scrapped by now.

The pipe was prepped and ready for install when the project was unilaterally stopped. Incredible amount of waste that resulted in significant loss for investors over a bunch of bull**** politics.
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Map of the current crude oil pipelines in the U.S.

Seems unreasonable to assume one more would impact the environment any more that all of these current pipelines.

https://atlas.eia.gov/datasets/eia::crude-oil-pipelines/explore
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Now show the natural gas pipelines.
Muy
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doubledog said:



Map of the current crude oil pipelines in the U.S.

Seems unreasonable to assume one more would impact the environment any more that all of these current pipelines.

https://atlas.eia.gov/datasets/eia::crude-oil-pipelines/explore


Based on this map, time to TexIt.
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Need those assets to generate profit and help reduce debt.
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I am a retired pipeline engineer, SME.

I am a badass.
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We're going to drill...drill...drill. We will build the biggest, most beautiful pipeline, you've ever seen. We will. It will be so beautiful.
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bkag9824 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Are the materials still available?


Most, if not all, of the pipe has either already been sold for other projects or has been scrapped by now.

The pipe was prepped and ready for install when the project was unilaterally stopped. Incredible amount of waste that resulted in significant loss for investors over a bunch of bull**** politics.


Yeah I figured
halfastros81
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I believe the Canadian's (Canadian government took the project over) recently completed the TransMountain pipeline expansion that increased export capacity of crude from Alberta to a pacific oil port from 300 to 900k bpd to get crude to the Pacific market. I am thinking opening up markets for Albertan crude was a primary driver for Keystone. If that's all true is Keystone still a viable project? Maybe some downsized version and picking up Bakken crude still makes sense, I dunno?
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