Captain Pablo said:Ryan the Temp said:Trump gave a lot of people permission to be their worst selves, and I think that's a major reason why a lot of people liked him so much. I like to think there was a lot of benefit to social norms and decorum in debate and disagreement, which got *******ized into the pejorative of "political correctness."oh no said:
Fair enough, temp. I think the Harris = return to normalcy idea has some fallacy if you consider she's been VP for four years and the last four years has been far from normal when you look at inflation, border, wars, etc. I also think Trump voters see the regime establishment and Pravda response to Trump starting 8 years ago through now as the cause of division and fomenting the environment around Trump; not Trump himself doing it to America.
No matter how significantly I've disagreed with others, including folks on F16, I've never considered or called them an enemy. People need to knock off all this "enemy" **** and remember we're all Americans and we're in this together, but maybe I'm just too nostalgic for a time long since passed.
If Trump were to come out tonight and tell people it's time to stop being angry and trying to hurt the people we disagree with and truly commit to doing actual work to restore respect and civility to public discourse I would be amazed, but we all know he isn't capable of doing that. If there had been a different Republican on the ballot, I would have given serious thought to voting for them.
The one thing I appreciated about Pence being Trump's VP was that Pence knew government still had to function in a stable and steady manner and tried to do that to the extent he could.
You are full of it, and you always have been
Did Trump burn cities, and applaud as it was happening?
Is Trump a lawless DA or Judge that refuses to enforce the law and lets violent criminals out of jail to continue their death and destruction in innocent victims?
Is Trump running around calling Americans fascists and garbage in need of reprogramming?
Did Russia invade Ukraine on Trump's watch?
Was Trump the VP that snubbed the Israeli Prime
Minister on his visit and speech to Congress
Did Trump open the borders wide to allow millions of illegals immigrants into the US, many of whom are violent criminals and rapists who have victimized innocent Americans?
Did Trump advocate for biological men participating in sports against girls?
Has Trump advocated for the wholesale slaughter of millions of unborn children?
Is Trump fighting for doctors' rights to chemically alter and physically mutilate children in the interest of gender affirmation?
Boy those democrats have been a model of civility and stability, I tell ya
What a joke
Exhibit B