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Anybody who has seen Kill Tony knows you don't have this man speak at such a highly publicized rally a week before the election.

Many of our new Latino voters in the seven swing states are Puerto Rican.

Many Latinos in the Blue Wall that are trending Republican/Trump are Puerto Rican.

The joke doesn't even make sense. Puerto Rico is a billion times better than Haiti (a country with one of the highest violent crime rates in the world that is being run by a warlord cannibal named Barbeque)

The amount of Puerto Ricans in the seven swing states is shocking when you look at some of these breakdowns. Many Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania. These Puerto Ricans have been trending Republican in the polls after being Democrat for a long time. Republicans/Trump need to win one of PA/Wisconsin/Michigan.

The Trump campaign and Trump should immediately disavow Tony Hinchcliffe.

The Democrat controlled media is going to have a field day with this.

Edited- In addition to Pennsylvania having a large Puerto Rican population, many Puerto Ricans in Michigan and Wisconsin as well. I remember Robert Barnes and Rich Baris talking about this in one of their videos in the past. Also I am pretty sure Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, and North Carolina have many Puerto Ricans as well.

Puerto Ricans and Latinos are trending Republican because of fiscal policy/inflation/taxes/economy, crime, immigration/border security, and social issues.

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Good grief......#1 whine seen to date!

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If you actually believe that, then what is the point of any of this campaigning?

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My post - as stated - was in regards to the impact of the joke.

If you want to distill "all of this campaigning" down to one joke not even told by the candidate, you can try, but I don't think you will be successful.

But just focusing on the last part of your question, what is the point of any of this campaigning -

Most all of the vote preferences have been locked in for a long time. There are very few tru undecideds that will actually vote.

The campaigning is all about driving turnout for your voters and discourage turnout for their voters.

Circling back to the joke - despite the best efforts to turn it into a bigger deal than it was - the only people truly getting stirred up about it are already locked in Harris voters. They live in a world of hyperbole and overreaction and can't be more fired up than they already are. But that enthusiasm doesn't feed over into other groups because it's an overdone schtick that people are weary of. They are the little boy who cries wolf 24/7 on every little thing.

Low IQ Harris campaign has clearly taken the bait.

Trump is the only politician who would put a real comedian on stage at his rally and let him tell jokes that are actually funny and edgy.

Smart strategy, too. The Dems will now spend the next three days crying over politically incorrect jokes. That's exactly the kind of… https://t.co/AmkPVrEJAc

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) October 27, 2024

On the other hand, people may see this as a lifting of the oppression by the professionally offended and that now jokes are just that…jokes.

How refreshing would be to finally get a break from the pinch-faced scolds on the left telling us what is funny and not funny.

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They're citizens so not sure classifying them as immigrants makes sense. Just saying.

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Puerto Ricans who move to the mainland are "migrants"

Unlike the Illegal Aliens who are now being called "migrants"

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Eh, not sure I agree there either. When Californians invade Texas, they're not called migrants. If my neighbor moves to Chicago in December, he won't tell his new mailman that he migrated from Texas. Or Maybe some will but IMO it is an odd term to use to describe citizens moving within their own country. Just my two cents, not trying to be disrespectful.

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Maybe transplant is a better word, in no way was I trying to be derogatory.

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Fair enough. I definitely refer to Rogan as a transplant.

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You as a person migrate when you move from place A to place B. Although most of the time we call it re-locate.
In 2023, I re-located from California to Texas.
But when the government statistics folks look at it, they're going to call that a migration.

The broader term is migrant.

Just like how these days you keep hearing terms like SA or Sexual Assault when in reality it covers a range of crimes.

Immigration is a subset of migration where you go to a foreign country and intend to stay there, etc.
And that's what these illegals are doing. So calling them migrants is generically correct, there's a much better descriptor that we should be using - illegal immigrants.

Splitting hairs on migration subcategories, I've got two from my personal life.

When my family lived in Saudi Arabia because my father got a job there, it was never intended to be anything other than a temporary situation. So we were never Immigrants there and I wouldn't even say that we migrated there. Maybe a temporary re-location - even though it was for many years.

On the other hand, when I moved to Australia, I did it as an Immigrant and after going through the proper paperwork and years of compliance, I obtained my Australian Permanent Residency.

While Australia was great, after 12 years, it was time to re-patriate so I moved back to California. Again, government statistics people would call that a migration.

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Low IQ Harris campaign has clearly taken the bait.

Trump is the only politician who would put a real comedian on stage at his rally and let him tell jokes that are actually funny and edgy.

Smart strategy, too. The Dems will now spend the next three days crying over politically incorrect jokes. That's exactly the kind of… https://t.co/AmkPVrEJAc

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) October 27, 2024

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Funny to see so many justify the jokes as the new standard for Republicans. No one seems to be capable of just stating the jokes were in bad taste and not the type of thing we want the party to be comfortable with. When we start championing a-holes more and more who have little class, are we really holding up any example showing that we're better than Dems? The next thing you know, we'll be championing adulterers and porn stars at rallies just because they've agreed to support the Republican nominee.

It just astonishes me how many folks just brush this stuff off as "oh its just politics" or "its not nearly as bad as the Dems". Again, I don't worry about peoples concern about Christian Nationalism because we're sure not worried about expressing good examples of our faith in some of the events and representatives.

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Bad Bunny just endorsed Kamala.

How will Trump ever recover from this?! pic.twitter.com/a66EfvChSW

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) October 27, 2024

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Yeah, I'm not a fan of Benito's fashion choices.

The first time I saw him in 2019 in Madrid, Spain, he was still pretty normal.
I just saw him in May 2024 in Houston and some of his outfits were pretty outlandish.

If you want a guy who can sell out arenas multiple nights, he's your guy.
if you want solid political advice, nah.

Here's a video from the 2019 Madrid show back before the crazy wardrobes

[Over the line. Your next ban won't be a short one if you keep up this behavior -- Staff]

I've never heard such whining and crying from so called adults. This was not a huge mistake. Get a life!

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We need to cut PR loose. They offer nothing to the union. They don't pay income taxes. They're not in a strategic position. And as far as them being culturally Americans, I doubt that - you can go to cities in the USA - especially on the border that are completely alienated from cultural America.

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I assume you know that Puerto Rico is an Island and isn't a city on the border.

If you want to see places where foreign languages are spoken that have signage in those foreign languages, look no further than Los Angeles County. Besides Spanish, you've got Farsi, Mandarin, Armenian, Korean, Hebrew, etc. If you're looking for places to cut out of the USA, I'd start with 10 million people in Los Angeles County.

Puerto Rico residents do pay income tax called Puerto Rico Tax but you are correct that they don't pay US Federal Income Tax. Because if they did, they'd have to get some congressional representation and about 6 electoral votes. And nobody in congress is going to vote for giving up their seat so that Puerto Rico can get fair representation.

I assume you also know that lots of Puerto Ricans serve in the Army.

I'm curious to know how you feel about the other territories - Guam, American Samoa, US Virgin Islands?

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I've never heard such whining and crying from so called adults. This was not a huge mistake. Get a life!

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10 wasn't working. So they went to 11.

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Rockdoc said:

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I've never heard such whining and crying from so called adults. This was not a huge mistake. Get a life!

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10 wasn't working. So they went to 11.

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Well I hate to tell them it's not working. When you've labeled someone as "literally Hitler", you've already fired you shot that was a dud.

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nortex97 said:

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Low IQ Harris campaign has clearly taken the bait.

Trump is the only politician who would put a real comedian on stage at his rally and let him tell jokes that are actually funny and edgy.

Smart strategy, too. The Dems will now spend the next three days crying over politically incorrect jokes. That's exactly the kind of… https://t.co/AmkPVrEJAc

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) October 27, 2024

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Funny to see so many justify the jokes as the new standard for Republicans. No one seems to be capable of just stating the jokes were in bad taste and not the type of thing we want the party to be comfortable with. When we start championing a-holes more and more who have little class, are we really holding up any example showing that we're better than Dems? The next thing you know, we'll be championing adulterers and porn stars at rallies just because they've agreed to support the Republican nominee.

It just astonishes me how many folks just brush this stuff off as "oh it's just politics" or "it's not nearly as bad as the Dems". Again, I don't worry about peoples concern about Christian Nationalism because we're sure not worried about expressing good examples of our faith in some of the events and representatives.

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Trotting out Ronna Romney McDaniel style talking points back at Democrats has been proven to fail, especially with minorities. Above all else, communists can't stand being mocked, which is why they demand censorship. I'm not saying I even find the jokes in this case funny, but insisting on mocking them is great, especially for an opener/comedian, not a candidate.

The bottom line is that the rally worked, as usual, and the hysteria about some comedian did not:

After Trump’s historic NYC rally, he now leads by a record high 31+ points on Polymarket

Looks like the PR psyop failed https://t.co/8gKHurfWEW

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) October 28, 2024

Agreed that migration is a term used to describe how people move from one are to another. And sure I'll concede governments use that to better classify said movement (I don't work in that arm of the gov so I have no clue). But the issue at hand was using that term in the vernacular to refer to citizens going from one part of their country to another. So to reference my last two examples, I personally would find it odd to call a Californian currently living in Houston a migrant. But to be fair, I might just be the outlier there.

That is the crux here and not illegal immigration when talking about Puerto Ricans. Although I do agree the term migrant has been purposely enlarged to include all forms of immigration per dem strategy but that seems like a convo for another thread. All the best.

I am more critical that it was a bad joke.. he did not set up at all and then rush the punchline. The joke didn't tie to the lead in joke or the follow on joke.. frankly if it was funny then most people would have been cool with it.

Instead it came off as just an insult to an island that spent the last six years recovering from both Hurricane and a massive earthquake and spent a lot of time cleaning itself up. (No thanks to Congress)

Worse, a lot of PR still remember some of the comments and things that happen during Maria. So they already see him as someone who doesn't care about the island interest.

My cousins in PA, who are normally Republican voters, already swung to Harris but this just helps reinforce the belief to them that Trump will not look out for the island.

BTW: Just got back from PR, spent about 10 days visiting the entire Island except Dorado.. cause we sold our house there in 1980 for $60K and it is worth close to $900K (Mom refuse to go see it). Also, convince my Mexican Indian wife to buy a house on the southside near my mother home town. Love PR and always enjoy my yearly trips home.

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All the CMs are out in force tonight. Right on cue. Pathetic.

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Not CM.

The numbers in PA look great, and many Latinos who are planning to switch over from Democrat to Republican in 2024 in PA are Puerto Rican.

Just want to win and don't want to alienate our new voters.

Especially Latino voters in the most important state Pennsylvania who are mainly Puerto Rican.

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Why do they live here?

Trump should send a film crew to Puerto Rico. Film their sanitation problem. Say that no Americans should live in environments like this and that the alternative party is focused their funding on invisible climate issues that even they admit won't materialize as major problems for decades and conflicts they allowed to occur overseas while allowing environmental and societal disasters like that to persist. That every American should live with clean and safe streets and prompt trash collection. That it's hard to take pride in your community when it exists in a state of neglect and incompetence and that's why it is his intention to Make America Great Again for all Americans from the streets of San Francisco and Los Angeles to the beaches of Puerto Rico.

Flash some dollar figures on the IRA. Flash some dollar figures on the Ukraine funding. Flash images of disrepair in America. Ask how much does it cost to help Americans and where should your tax dollars be going.

This is how the MSM/leftists/communists (but I repeat myself) will cover Trump, as with the past 8 years:

Just for the mental health of Americans on the left, and to preserve the republic itself, the propaganda press simply must be destroyed. https://t.co/53SilbBNUK

— Mollie (@MZHemingway) October 27, 2024

Such complaints have no credibility, and warrant scorn and derision.

I understand when someone says "I don't like the candidate but I am voting for my beliefs; aka "The Party" "

Catch is you are not going to get better candidates if people keep electing the buffoons being thrust out in front of us.

The level of crap running for office is just deplorable and it doesn't have to be. The MAGA fear driven mouthpieces need to go back to their caves and the overly, for lack of a better phrase, woke agenda pushers need to understand they are ruining conversations and policies over minimal differences with zero to no impact to negligible portions of our population.

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It's the unplugged voter who just happens to see things on social media...the uninformed masses that Clinton loved to brag about.

The Democrats have been desperately throwing Hail Marys to get urban people to show up to vote for Kamala, doing everything they can to stir up racial grievances. No reason to give them ammunition.

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So by your logic, best thing Trump could do is crawl in a basement and take the Biden/Kamala approach?

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nortex97 said:

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Low IQ Harris campaign has clearly taken the bait.

Trump is the only politician who would put a real comedian on stage at his rally and let him tell jokes that are actually funny and edgy.

Smart strategy, too. The Dems will now spend the next three days crying over politically incorrect jokes. That's exactly the kind of… https://t.co/AmkPVrEJAc

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) October 27, 2024

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Funny to see so many justify the jokes as the new standard for Republicans. No one seems to be capable of just stating the jokes were in bad taste and not the type of thing we want the party to be comfortable with. When we start championing a-holes more and more who have little class, are we really holding up any example showing that we're better than Dems? The next thing you know, we'll be championing adulterers and porn stars at rallies just because they've agreed to support the Republican nominee.

It just astonishes me how many folks just brush this stuff off as "oh it's just politics" or "it's not nearly as bad as the Dems". Again, I don't worry about peoples concern about Christian Nationalism because we're sure not worried about expressing good examples of our faith in some of the events and representatives.

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Trotting out Ronna Romney McDaniel style talking points back at Democrats has been proven to fail, especially with minorities. Above all else, communists can't stand being mocked, which is why they demand censorship. I'm not saying I even find the jokes in this case funny, but insisting on mocking them is great, especially for an opener/comedian, not a candidate.

The bottom line is that the rally worked, as usual, and the hysteria about some comedian did not:

After Trump’s historic NYC rally, he now leads by a record high 31+ points on Polymarket

Looks like the PR psyop failed https://t.co/8gKHurfWEW

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) October 28, 2024

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That's a moot point whether the rally worked or not. Nothing at this point changes anyones mind, certainly not the people attending the rally. They literally could do anything on stage and his supporters wouldn't question it.. The dems can make a big deal out of it all they want. My point was the comfort level of the campaign hosting idiots at the rallies. Lets not get to excited about the Dems not being able to stand being mocked. Trump can't handle any digs about him to the point that he wants retribution.

Like it or not, the bar of morality has been lowered in the party....and people keep justifying it. Reagan would be appalled at what the Dems are doing....but he'd be just as appalled at the R party

Well the rally didn't work for liberals since you've clearly shown us.

Some people just need to grow a pear.

Don't be a moran, just go out and vore!

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I understand when someone says "I don't like the candidate but I am voting for my beliefs; aka "The Party" "

Catch is you are not going to get better candidates if people keep electing the buffoons being thrust out in front of us.

The level of crap running for office is just deplorable and it doesn't have to be. The MAGA fear driven mouthpieces need to go back to their caves and the overly, for lack of a better phrase, woke agenda pushers need to understand they are ruining conversations and policies over minimal differences with zero to no impact to negligible portions of our population.

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It is fascinating how we've gone from competent public speakers (Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Romney, Obama and even pre-dementia Biden) to two candidates that often struggle to form coherent sentences. And no one cares. I completely understand that Trump is unique and gets a pass because of his celebrity/non-politician history. As a former Trump skeptic and now supporter, I still shake my head at some of the silliness that comes out of his mouth. I just shrug and say "that's Trump".

But Dems, you've got to be embarrassed at how poorly your hand picked candidate speaks. It's laughable that she has been in politics for 20 years and still comes off so badly, so insincerely.

Oh, noes! Now Trump is going to lose the Patriot voters!

To the libs just discovering comedy this morning, may I introduce you to Kill Tony’s absolutely murderous roast of Tom Brady

GOLD.

pic.twitter.com/h3KwOiOhZZ

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) October 28, 2024

[Stop derailing this thread. When you repost material that we removed, you can count on a ban -- Staff]

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nortex97 said:

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Low IQ Harris campaign has clearly taken the bait.

Trump is the only politician who would put a real comedian on stage at his rally and let him tell jokes that are actually funny and edgy.

Smart strategy, too. The Dems will now spend the next three days crying over politically incorrect jokes. That's exactly the kind of… https://t.co/AmkPVrEJAc

— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) October 27, 2024

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Funny to see so many justify the jokes as the new standard for Republicans. No one seems to be capable of just stating the jokes were in bad taste and not the type of thing we want the party to be comfortable with. When we start championing a-holes more and more who have little class, are we really holding up any example showing that we're better than Dems? The next thing you know, we'll be championing adulterers and porn stars at rallies just because they've agreed to support the Republican nominee.

It just astonishes me how many folks just brush this stuff off as "oh it's just politics" or "it's not nearly as bad as the Dems". Again, I don't worry about peoples concern about Christian Nationalism because we're sure not worried about expressing good examples of our faith in some of the events and representatives.

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Trotting out Ronna Romney McDaniel style talking points back at Democrats has been proven to fail, especially with minorities. Above all else, communists can't stand being mocked, which is why they demand censorship. I'm not saying I even find the jokes in this case funny, but insisting on mocking them is great, especially for an opener/comedian, not a candidate.

The bottom line is that the rally worked, as usual, and the hysteria about some comedian did not:

After Trump’s historic NYC rally, he now leads by a record high 31+ points on Polymarket

Looks like the PR psyop failed https://t.co/8gKHurfWEW

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) October 28, 2024

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That's a moot point whether the rally worked or not. Nothing at this point changes anyones mind, certainly not the people attending the rally. They literally could do anything on stage and his supporters wouldn't question it.. The dems can make a big deal out of it all they want. My point was the comfort level of the campaign hosting idiots at the rallies. Lets not get to excited about the Dems not being able to stand being mocked. Trump can't handle any digs about him to the point that he wants retribution.

Like it or not, the bar of morality has been lowered in the party....and people keep justifying it. Reagan would be appalled at what the Dems are doing....but he'd be just as appalled at the R party

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The bar of morality has been lowered for all of society. Deal with it. We aren't going back.

Was it in bad taste?

The trash problem is well known reported in he news as I stated above.

Why can't they joke about it?

And why can George Lopez call Mexicans thieves? Because he is one?

He's a comedian too, albeit a vile person, why can he do it but Republicans can't?

Everyone is too sensitive these days.

You're virtue signaling ... badly.

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He's a openly gay comedian speaking at a Trump rally that oh by the way is embedded deep into YouTube and TikTok algorithms. He produces a metric ton of short content from his platforms and he'll get picked up from that. It reaches a ton of youth and low pro voters in a way George Lopez never will. Not only that but the it will reach will be exactly the demos thag Trump wants to turn out. Best joke? No, but you're looking at a tiny bit of it that will be swallowed by the rest of his positive impact.

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Damn, he's gay?

I hope he likes the concentration camps.

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Latinos are trending Republican.

Trump is going to need a strong showing with Latinos to win next week.

We should be treating them like royalty.

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So you're saying Latinos don't have a sense of humor?

You think they're fragile?

Or is it just the "Nazi" ones you don't like.

BREAKING: Puerto Ricans who attended Trump's Madison Square Garden rally say they had ZERO problem with the joke Comedian Tony Hinchcliffe made on stage

"Do you guys even give a f*ck about that?"

Them: "No, we don't... Puerto Ricans for Trump."

Only white liberals are mad… pic.twitter.com/JmCYO3sAZK

— George (@BehizyTweets) October 28, 2024

Well, the dims found what they were searching for at the Nazi Rally at Madison Square Garden. 😉 pic.twitter.com/nHHT5eU4JH

— 🌴♥️🇺🇸Dixie ♥️s America & Trump🇺🇸♥️🌴 (@DixiDarlen) October 28, 2024

Jews for Trump have arrived to the rally in Madison Square.

Are we still calling this a Nazi gathering?
pic.twitter.com/NpL7AS7Aku

— 𝗡𝗶𝗼𝗵 𝗕𝗲𝗿𝗴 ♛ ✡︎ (@NiohBerg) October 27, 2024

So you think none of them have a sense of humor?

You think they can' t laugh at things?

You think they have to be handled with kid gloves?

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Was it in bad taste?

The trash problem is well known reported in he news as I stated above.

Why can't they joke about it?

And why can George Lopez call Mexicans thieves? Because he is one?

He's a comedian too, albeit a vile person, why can he do it but Republicans can't?

Everyone is too sensitive these days.

You're virtue signaling ... badly.

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This whole situation is really really interesting. Politically interesting, but also interesting from a standup perspective.

Nate Bargetze has a whole bit about how standup comedy given to people who weren't expecting it just sounds like a mean speech. That's what happened here.

Tony showed up and did what Tony does. Nobody who's familiar with Tony (which is a LOT less people than Tony seems to believe) heard anything they haven't heard before. Part of what makes his humor work, in my opinion, is that he says crazy ****, but we all agree that what he's saying is crazy. That's the joke.

When you say it at a political rally, especially one that has a reputation for actually believing the crazy **** he says as jokes, it feels less like a joke, and more like rhetoric.

Tony can pull the "ya'll can't take a joke" card all day long. He'd be correct in using it for people who get upset about jokes at a comedy club. Not here.

That's not even getting into political ramifications of all this.

when i first saw "island of garbage" was trending i assumed it was in reference to a maga boat parade, but this is somehow even less surprising

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What political ramifications.

In hindsight, probably better not to say it, but the cat's out. I see a lot of pearl clutching over nothing while the Democrat party says vile things daily. In****ing Trump, insulting his supporters.

Specifically.

This is just the MSM pulling their hypocritical bull**** again and many falling for it. It's the media and the Democrats that are upset. Not the Puerto Ricans or anyone else. And insinuating they don't have senses of humor is more than arrogant, THAT's what's insulting.

Oddly they're not upset at Kamala, Tim calling Trump Hitler and even pushing an American Nazi rally from almost 100 years ago to try and push more bull*****

But seriously, what political ramifications.

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Was it in bad taste?

The trash problem is well known reported in he news as I stated above.

Why can't they joke about it?

And why can George Lopez call Mexicans thieves? Because he is one?

He's a comedian too, albeit a vile person, why can he do it but Republicans can't?

Everyone is too sensitive these days.

You're virtue signaling ... badly.

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This whole situation is really really interesting. Politically interesting, but also interesting from a standup perspective.

Nate Bargetze has a whole bit about how standup comedy given to people who weren't expecting it just sounds like a mean speech. That's what happened here.

Tony showed up and did what Tony does. Nobody who's familiar with Tony (which is a LOT less people than Tony seems to believe) heard anything they haven't heard before. Part of what makes his humor work, in my opinion, is that he says crazy ****, but we all agree that what he's saying is crazy. That's the joke.

When you say it at a political rally, especially one that has a reputation for actually believing the crazy **** he says as jokes, it feels less like a joke, and more like rhetoric.

Tony can pull the "ya'll can't take a joke" card all day long. He'd be correct in using it for people who get upset about jokes at a comedy club. Not here.

That's not even getting into political ramifications of all this.

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What are the political ramifications?