agjacent said:

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Why do you insist on asking this ridiculous question? No one can know exactly how many votes this will cost trump, but it's the height of absurdism to deny that the only impact it *can* have is a negative one for trump and all other down ballot republicans in states with large Latino/PR populations. Even trump's campaign recognizes this, which is why they put out a statement last night attempting to distance trump from the "joke."

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100% correct.

The bigger campaign mistake was made by Kamala having the angry Michelle Obama show up in MI. No joy at all, not uplifting. Just dark anger at how stupid she thinks Americans are for supporting Trump. Shades of the last days of Hillary's campaign in 2016.

aggiehawg said:

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The bigger campaign mistake was made by Kamala having the angry Michelle Obama show up in MI. No joy at all, not uplifting. Just dark anger at how stupid she thinks Americans are for supporting Trump. Shades of the last days of Hillary's campaign in 2016.

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Also not having Beyonce perform at her Houston rally.

Interesting, I dug up the Kamala statement that Bad Bunny shared.

It's curious that Kamala had this ready to go the same time that this Puerto Rico garbage joke was made.

In her video, she talks about all that she's going to do for Puerto Rico yet no mention about the fact that the Island has 0 Electoral Votes.

https://instagr.am/p/DBorR6TPpZ3

What people are missing is Trump is targeting a certain audience by going on the podcasts he's been on as well as having Tony out there. By doing this, he's reached more people and brought in more votes than the pearl clutchers want to admit. He knows that to win he needs to reach young men, especially given how the left has attempted to cast men out of society, and he's doing a great job at it.

The uptights need to sit back and understand that their "prim and proppa" attitude is being replaced by normal people who like crude jokes, sports, and stream podcasts vs watch news entertainment.

The overreaction on this thread is due to fear of losing. People think that others may view this as terrible. I haven't seen evidence of anyone actually being so offended by this that they aren't voting for Trump. It's a non-story.

She announced her policy proposals for Puerto Rico hours before trump's NY rally, at campaign stop in a Puerto Rican restaurant in Philly.

It would be very amusing if someone on team trump is actually leaking info to the Harris campaign.

HollywoodBQ said:

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Interesting, I dug up the Kamala statement that Bad Bunny shared.

It's curious that Kamala had this ready to go the same time that this Puerto Rico garbage joke was made.

In her video, she talks about all that she's going to do for Puerto Rico yet no mention about the fact that the Island has 0 Electoral Votes.

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Or.....





That she has been #2 for 4 yrs and hasn't done shizzle for PR.

Oh no, white liberals are upset again at a joke.

agjacent said:

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But sure, this was *not* an unforced error and in no way will this hurt republicans by one single vote. Also, 450K Puerto Ricans live in Pennsylvania. :-)

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I'm going to have to look that one up but I did see this tweet sharing the number of Puerto Ricans in some key states.

Puerto Ricans by state:
Pennsylvania: 450k
North Carolina: 100k
Wisconsin: 65k
Michigan: 50k
Florida: 1.1 million
New York: 1 million https://t.co/3lViK1jpVg

— Jackson Peel (@JaxPeel) October 27, 2024

BigRobSA said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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Interesting, I dug up the Kamala statement that Bad Bunny shared.

It's curious that Kamala had this ready to go the same time that this Puerto Rico garbage joke was made.

In her video, she talks about all that she's going to do for Puerto Rico yet no mention about the fact that the Island has 0 Electoral Votes.

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Or.....





That she has been #2 for 4 yrs and hasn't done shizzle for PR.

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Oh believe me, the fact that they're still harping about "The Hurricane" and they mean "Maria" from 2017.

And Kamala saying in her video that the reason the PR electric grid sucks is because of Donald Trump.

Only a virtue signalling moron would buy into any of her rhetoric.

agjacent said:

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She announced her policy proposals for Puerto Rico hours before trump's NY rally, at campaign stop in a Puerto Rican restaurant in Philly.

It would be very amusing if someone on team trump is actually leaking info to the Harris campaign.

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The timing just seemed real suspicious. I hadn't followed Kamala's press releases yesterday because I was doing stuff that normal people do on weekends.

A couple days ago it was Muslims in Detroit who were going to decide the election.
Now it's Puerto Ricans. Most of whom have zero electoral votes to offer.

But, I realize it's a close race in places like Pennsylvania and any little thing could make a difference.

95% of those offended are white and probably female.

I just had a vision......

Ladies and gentlemen the secretary of the press......

HollywoodBQ said:

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agjacent said:

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But sure, this was *not* an unforced error and in no way will this hurt republicans by one single vote. Also, 450K Puerto Ricans live in Pennsylvania. :-)

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I'm going to have to look that one up but I did see this tweet sharing the number of Puerto Ricans in some key states.

Puerto Ricans by state:
Pennsylvania: 450k
North Carolina: 100k
Wisconsin: 65k
Michigan: 50k
Florida: 1.1 million
New York: 1 million https://t.co/3lViK1jpVg

— Jackson Peel (@JaxPeel) October 27, 2024

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Question for you, what is the attitude for the home country for most PR immigrants? I would assume that being a territory of the US for so long, there is more resentment towards the US that is bred in to immigrants that come to the mainland versus a place like Cuba, where the ones that come here mostly resent their home country? Or do I have that stereotype wrong?

Squadron7 said:

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95% of those offended are white and probably female.

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Or Bad Bunny, J-Lo and Ricky Martin fans. They will claim the joke made them vote for Kamala, but they're voting Kamala, because they're Bad Bunny, J-Lo and Ricky Martin fans.

If you like Trump, the joke didn't change that and wasn't particularly funny.

If hate Trump, the joke is the worst thing since the holocaust and you still aren't voting for him.

If you like Kamala...well, that is a null set.

sam callahan said:

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If you like Trump, the joke didn't change that and wasn't particularly funny.

If hate Trump, the joke is the worst thing since the holocaust and you still aren't voting for him.

If you like Kamala...well, that is a null set.

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If you actually believe that, then what is the point of any of this campaigning?

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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agjacent said:

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But sure, this was *not* an unforced error and in no way will this hurt republicans by one single vote. Also, 450K Puerto Ricans live in Pennsylvania. :-)

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I'm going to have to look that one up but I did see this tweet sharing the number of Puerto Ricans in some key states.

Puerto Ricans by state:
Pennsylvania: 450k
North Carolina: 100k
Wisconsin: 65k
Michigan: 50k
Florida: 1.1 million
New York: 1 million https://t.co/3lViK1jpVg

— Jackson Peel (@JaxPeel) October 27, 2024

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Question for you, what is the attitude for the home country for most PR immigrants?

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For the past 80-100 years, New York City has been the dream destination for a lot of people on the island.

Everybody knows that any Puerto Rican who can make it in the mainland USA will move there because there is more opportunity, higher wages, etc.

Puerto Rico has been losing people for decades. The peak population was about 3.8 million in the year 2000. Now it's down around 3.2 million. There are tons of Puerto Ricans living in the mainland USA.

Here's a site I found showing the numbers by state.
https://puertoricoreport.com/puerto-rican-population-in-the-states/

Statehood or Independence is still a looming question out there. The last few votes have been FOR statehood. And usually some Puerto Rican Representative out of Chicago will introduce a Statehood bill that will get support from 7 or 8 Representatives and then nothing ever happens.

I think that most Puerto Ricans who have made it in the mainland USA still love to visit but, aren't willing to give up what they've got to go back and try to fix things.

Frankly, it's a very similar scenario to what you see with Indians working in the USA. They've made it and the folks who are left behind (in India) aren't as capable. In PR, they also might be completely corrupt too. We saw that with the mayor of San Juan during Hurricane Maria and relief efforts.

There have been some successful economic programs over the years but these days, if you're looking for cheap labor, you're going to Asia so PR can't really compete in that race to the bottom.

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How is Rita Moreno 92 years old?

They're citizens so not sure classifying them as immigrants makes sense. Just saying.

Maybe transplant is a better word, in no way was I trying to be derogatory.

texasnativeforumvisitor said:

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They're citizens so not sure classifying them as immigrants makes sense. Just saying.

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Puerto Ricans who move to the mainland are "migrants"

Unlike the Illegal Aliens who are now being called "migrants"

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Maybe transplant is a better word, in no way was I trying to be derogatory.

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I wasn't bothered by it at all.

You'd be amazed how many times I've been asked questions like:

• "But you're an American now, right?"
• "Did you join the Army to get your citizenship?"
• "Do you have a Puerto Rican Passport?"

HollywoodBQ said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Maybe transplant is a better word, in no way was I trying to be derogatory.

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I wasn't bothered by it at all.

You'd be amazed how many times I've been asked questions like:

• "But you're an American now, right?"
• "Did you join the Army to get your citizenship?"
• "Do you have a Puerto Rican Passport?"

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Appreciate the input. I do think we need to have a **** or get off the pot moment with PR. Either bring them in officially or let them lose. That would ruin the tax haven loophole though, so most likely will never happen.

Take a look at cnn.com right now. Objective journalism at is finest.

We need to cut PR loose. They offer nothing to the union. They don't pay income taxes. They're not in a strategic position. And as far as them being culturally Americans, I doubt that - you can go to cities in the USA - especially on the border that are completely alienated from cultural America.

HollywoodBQ said:

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texasnativeforumvisitor said:

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They're citizens so not sure classifying them as immigrants makes sense. Just saying.

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Puerto Ricans who move to the mainland are "migrants"

Unlike the Illegal Aliens who are now being called "migrants"

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Eh, not sure I agree there either. When Californians invade Texas, they're not called migrants. If my neighbor moves to Chicago in December, he won't tell his new mailman that he migrated from Texas. Or Maybe some will but IMO it is an odd term to use to describe citizens moving within their own country. Just my two cents, not trying to be disrespectful.

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Maybe transplant is a better word, in no way was I trying to be derogatory.

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Fair enough. I definitely refer to Rogan as a transplant.

annie88 said:

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It's a big nothing being pushed by the DNC propaganda machine and the left. Hypocrites once again.

Lopez, who has become a very gross human in many ways, being a comedian that made jokes about Mexicans. There's no outrage. The other guy made jokes about Puerto Rico's trash problem, which is actually real.

So apparently certain comedians are OK to make jokes and others aren't. And of course, the media is running with this bull*****

You can't make this **** up.

And the day before at a Tim Walz event, George Lopez called Mexicans thieves. https://t.co/il4bnOPITA

— BridgetteOnX (@BridgetteOnX) October 28, 2024

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gotta say, Lopez had the much better joke.

Won't change any minds.

Some of yall are really tone deaf, people vote on emotions and Puerto Ricans are a very proud people, real dumb but it's what I expect from the Trump campaign.