Israel is in it to win it and everybody is looking at it wrong

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techno-ag
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https://nypost.com/2024/06/13/opinion/israel-is-winning-war-in-gaza-and-has-plans-for-what-happens-next/

This guy is an expert and he points out how the IDF handles urban warfare completely different than the US and NATO.

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the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) conducts another assault in the north of Gaza, it faces significant criticism from Western officials and analysts who are asking why the IDF is repeatedly going into areas it has already cleared and conducting further operations.

In the "global war on terror," Western tactics were to seize a chunk of territory and clear it of enemies through military force.

The plan was then to hold the territory through forward operating bases (FOBs) and try to conduct alternative governance in those areas while providing security.

The system of FOBs meant that our enemies, embedded in the local civilian population, always knew where we were and what routes we were likely to use. They could mortar, rocket and IED us at will.

Such tactics would also be insanely wasteful, since Israel has a safe base on the Israeli side of the Gaza border, and can therefore enjoy the luxury of only committing to intelligence-led operations at times and on ground of their choosing - advantages that the West did not have in either Iraq or Afghanistan.

The IDF is not trying to clear Gaza.

With no ability to impose a political arrangement in Gaza, and a Gazan desire for continued Hamas rule, the IDF answer is: Let them have Hamas.

But the version of Hamas that Gazans will get is one heavily degraded militarily, and, most importantly, with vast swaths of their tunnels and civilian-embedded infrastructure destroyed.


It's very interesting. You don't hear a lot of commentary over here explaining what the IDF is doing and why. You only hear criticism. But they know they're dealing with a fuzzy ill-defined situation with little hope of complete resolution. So they're going to degrade Hamas's ability to launch another surprise attack.

God bless them.
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Kenneth_2003
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Caught up today on Ted Cruz podcast...

He was going in depth on the coverage of the IDF raid. One of the "civilians" that was killed in the raid was also a journalist! Was this journalist running to the fight to see what was happening? Was he trying to get the scoop? Was he just caught in the crossfire?

Nope! THE RAID, WAS ON HIS APARTMENT! THREE OF THE OCTOBER 7TH HOSTAGES WERE IN HIS APARTMENT!!!

There are no civilians in Gaza!
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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what i believe is you never go to war unless you are willing to do horrific things to win. war is hell but if you are going to go to war then there are not many rules in my book. it isn't a football game.
Old Sarge
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You are correct, that there are no civilians in Gaza. There are Palestinians, and only two types of those. Current combatants, and future combatants.
"Green" is the new RED.
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Old Sarge said:

You are correct, that there are no civilians in Gaza. There are Palestinians, and only two types of those. Current combatants, and future combatants.
Don't forget the dead ones.
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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You are correct, that there are no civilians in Gaza. There are Palestinians, and only two types of those. Current combatants, and future combatants.

Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
doubledog
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To clear a field of rats you do not occupy the field... You burn the field and kill the rats as the run out.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

what i believe is you never go to war unless you are willing to do horrific things to win. war is hell but if you are going to go to war then there are not many rules in my book. it isn't a football game.
yep, General Sherman said it best:

"War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over."
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