Jeeper79 said:Ive answered that same question in how many threads now? I'm not voting for him. I don't know why you think this is such a great dig that you keep doubling down on it.Rockdoc said:
You never did answer last night. Will you enjoy your vote for Biden?
Maybe try thinking of a lame nickname for me. That's your dear leader's go-to move and it sure works on people like you.
I expect a portion of that 50/60 is name recognition alone - popular because he's popular, the Kardashian effect. I don't know where I saw the poll, but only about a third of the GOP identified as either MAGA or ultra MAGA.MemphisAg1 said:MAGA is about 50% to 60% of the party based on polls when there were several candidates in the primary.PA24 said:
MAGA is the Republican Party.
You are either for or against.
Chose wisely as elections have consequences
Trump 2024
Good luck recruiting the rest -- and independents -- with Trump's ongoing slash and burn approach. Telling people he doesn't need their votes should work out really well for him. Blacklisting supporters of his primary opponents is also a winning strategy, lol.
He is an awful candidate. I know that's hard for some to accept but it's the truth. He won a close race against Hillary in 2016 -- thank God. Since then he or his hand picked candidates have lost in 2018, 2020, and 2022. "But the fourth time is the charm!" Yeah, right. 62D chess, lol.
If it looks like he'll really beat Biden, the Dems will swap Newsome for Biden at the convention and he'll wipe the floor with Trump. The stage is already being set for that with the Dems bringing out the sharp knives for Biden after the AG report. We are being outplayed.
I will agree on that. There will be an epic meltdown if he wins or loses!PA24 said:
if he wins or if he loses, we get a solid meltdown afterwards.
Jeeper79 said:No I've said as much before. I voted for Biden in 2020. I won't do it again. But I still stand by my decision. Do I think we're doing well? No. Do I think trump would have done better? Also no.Harry Stone said:Jeeper79 said:Let's just say my values are still intact.Harry Stone said:Jeeper79 said:We clearly prioritize different values… Like honor, fidelity, class, honesty, and just not being a dick.Old Sarge said:Politics does not equal principles. You sound like Bill Kristol. It is about preservation of values at this point, of which you evidently value ObamaBiden Marxism, over a jackass. Sack up.Waffledynamics said:Nope. Not unless there's some concessions. I'm sticking to my principles.Old Sarge said:Your "opponent" (if it is ObamaBiden Marxism/WEF,etc) votes in a block, lockstep, to screw the average American, and perhaps YOU. It's high time we do the same for now.Waffledynamics said:I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.Old Sarge said:I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.Waffledynamics said:
Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?
For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
Again, if Trump needs my one vote to win Texas, y'all ****ed up worse than you ever could have imagined and deserve the L.
Who did you vote for in 2020?
Too embarrassed to say?
I have zero faith in him being able to navigate a an economic crisis. I also have no faith in his ability to dig us out of a hole. I think both DeSantis and Haley would do better, but they weren't options in 2020.
This. 100% this, if not 1000%. Those railing against the inevitable because of "standards," are fools.TTUArmy said:
I had no problem with Trump as president. I thought he did a pretty good job; all things considered. He probably would have done better if he didn't constantly have the uni-party, 3-letter agencies, the media, and all of the DC bureaucrats trying to stick a knife in the man's back for not following their Marxist agenda. Honestly, it's not Trump that should be reviled. That hate needs to be squarely focused on those running/ruining our country at this very moment. Those SOB's never sleep, never tell the truth, and never stop scheming to tear this country apart.
Ag CPA said:
Agree, it's going to suck dealing with another 4 years of Biden but the MAGA meltdown on this board election night and the subsequent stolen election threads may make it worth it. Hopefully we have another QAnon thread going as icing on the cake.
PA24 said:
Jeeper79 said:I expect a portion of that 50/60 is name recognition alone - popular because he's popular, the Kardashian effect. I don't know where I saw the poll, but only about a third of the GOP identified as either MAGA or ultra MAGA.MemphisAg1 said:MAGA is about 50% to 60% of the party based on polls when there were several candidates in the primary.PA24 said:
MAGA is the Republican Party.
You are either for or against.
Chose wisely as elections have consequences
Trump 2024
Good luck recruiting the rest -- and independents -- with Trump's ongoing slash and burn approach. Telling people he doesn't need their votes should work out really well for him. Blacklisting supporters of his primary opponents is also a winning strategy, lol.
He is an awful candidate. I know that's hard for some to accept but it's the truth. He won a close race against Hillary in 2016 -- thank God. Since then he or his hand picked candidates have lost in 2018, 2020, and 2022. "But the fourth time is the charm!" Yeah, right. 62D chess, lol.
If it looks like he'll really beat Biden, the Dems will swap Newsome for Biden at the convention and he'll wipe the floor with Trump. The stage is already being set for that with the Dems bringing out the sharp knives for Biden after the AG report. We are being outplayed.
These days it seems anything longer than a headline is too much trouble to read.Old Sarge said:If a 1.5 minute read is too long for you........No Spin Ag said:
Is there a TLDLR for OPs? Cliff Notes maybe?
I support no regime, but I think you know that.The Chicken Ranch said:
But yet you support a regime that accuses Trump of everything they are doing. You are part of a cult indeed!
Waffledynamics said:
Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
Rockdoc said:Ag CPA said:
Agree, it's going to suck dealing with another 4 years of Biden but the MAGA meltdown on this board election night and the subsequent stolen election threads may make it worth it. Hopefully we have another QAnon thread going as icing on the cake.
Yeah another 4 years of Biden will make it worth it right?
Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
"Muh principles". That's why we ended up with Biden.
The current situation may very well wind up in Balkanization of this country down the road. If that starts to look like a real possibility would you please leave Texas at once. Maybe move to California where your squishiness would be appreciated. Would not want someone with faux principles in our new state.Waffledynamics said:Sacking up is sticking to my principles instead of letting a NYC liberal's supporters bully me into supporting him.Old Sarge said:Politics does not equal principles. You sound like Bill Kristol. It is about preservation of values at this point, of which you evidently value ObamaBiden Marxism, over a jackass. Sack up.Waffledynamics said:Nope. Not unless there's some concessions. I'm sticking to my principles.Old Sarge said:Your "opponent" (if it is ObamaBiden Marxism/WEF,etc) votes in a block, lockstep, to screw the average American, and perhaps YOU. It's high time we do the same for now.Waffledynamics said:I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.Old Sarge said:I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.Waffledynamics said:
Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?
For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
Again, if Trump needs my one vote to win Texas, y'all ****ed up worse than you ever could have imagined and deserve the L.
You do what you want. You clearly don't need my vote.
Go to California because I don't want to vote for a NY liberal? That's hilarious. Great joke.txrancher69 said:The current situation may very well wind up in Balkanization of this country down the road. If that starts to look like a real possibility would you please leave Texas at once. Maybe move to California where your squishiness would be appreciated. Would not want someone with faux principles in our new state.Waffledynamics said:Sacking up is sticking to my principles instead of letting a NYC liberal's supporters bully me into supporting him.Old Sarge said:Politics does not equal principles. You sound like Bill Kristol. It is about preservation of values at this point, of which you evidently value ObamaBiden Marxism, over a jackass. Sack up.Waffledynamics said:Nope. Not unless there's some concessions. I'm sticking to my principles.Old Sarge said:Your "opponent" (if it is ObamaBiden Marxism/WEF,etc) votes in a block, lockstep, to screw the average American, and perhaps YOU. It's high time we do the same for now.Waffledynamics said:I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.Old Sarge said:I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.Waffledynamics said:
Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?
For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
Again, if Trump needs my one vote to win Texas, y'all ****ed up worse than you ever could have imagined and deserve the L.
You do what you want. You clearly don't need my vote.
Predictions regarding usually end up being complete bull. Blue collar, middle America remember jobs coming back to the states and cheap prices that helped their pocketbook. The hyperbole of Trumps going to do this or that is 8 years old, its amazing y'all's determination.AggiePops said:
Makes sense for anyone who wants a Republican President to vote for Trump if (when) he's the 2024 nominee. One thing to keep in mind though. While he'll no doubt do some things to the liking of conservatives, it's no secret that Trump himself is no true conservative. Meaning with no next term to stump for he'll no longer feel it necessary to pander to the rural, real job Americans who would be the base of his re-election. Campaign rhetoric is cheap and easy, especially for someone not already looking toward reelection. Meaning in turn that it's likely he'll do some things that will seem like a betrayal to that base. Time will tell!
AggiePops said:
Makes sense for anyone who wants a Republican President to vote for Trump if (when) he's the 2024 nominee. One thing to keep in mind though. While he'll no doubt do some things to the liking of conservatives, it's no secret that Trump himself is no true conservative. Meaning with no next term to stump for he'll no longer feel it necessary to pander to the rural, real job Americans who would be the base of his re-election. Campaign rhetoric is cheap and easy, especially for someone not already looking toward reelection. Meaning in turn that it's likely he'll do some things that will seem like a betrayal to that base. Time will tell!
It is all of our beds....not trumps.Quote:
I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.
Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
Better than communism drama queen. Trump has created allies of people that aren't 100% for the hardcore conservatives views. Then you turn around and spit on them. Deserve to have your ideology wiped away by communist.Ag_of_08 said:
Trump is an anti-2a, pro big gov, pro bailout, pro authoritarian old New York money liberal with some rhetoric points people like.... he's also responsible for the way the govt covid disaster played out.
I'm not going to support someone who supports the same position as his "opposition" on most of the actual important points.
Rex Racer said:
I wish the nom was going to DeSantes, but it isn't, so I am all in on Trump now. The alternative is worse, by a long shot.
Anyone who's buying that Gaetz is anything but a self promoting power hungry idiot has been blinded by all their bs. This unflinching trust in these people telling you what you want to hear without any substance is almost as bad as those who believe the bs the left spews. Especially now we need to be cautious about draining one swamp and filling it with anotherFunky Winkerbean said:
All these people crying about Trump are the same frauds that turn their back on conservatism in action. You want small government but don't support anyone that tries to actually do it. Trump wants out of NATO? Nope, won't support that. Gaetz gets McCarthy out and you turn your back on him. But please, tell us more about what your guy is going to do.
Wanna know why people don't want to vote for Trump?Bryanisbest said:Rex Racer said:
I wish the nom was going to DeSantes, but it isn't, so I am all in on Trump now. The alternative is worse, by a long shot.
How did you escape the sore loser DeSantis (SLD) syndrome. Sell me a truck load please.
Bryanisbest said:Rex Racer said:
I wish the nom was going to DeSantes, but it isn't, so I am all in on Trump now. The alternative is worse, by a long shot.
How did you escape the sore loser DeSantis (SLD) syndrome. Sell me a truck load please.
LOL. I've zero experience with New York Magazine but it sounds like they have the political acumen of MAD Magazine. I did read that as a kid. Acting like a conservative to appease the voters who put him in office and he wanted to keep happy so they'd do it again doesn't make him an ideological conservative. His cold shoulder to immigrants as President seems a bit put-on considering his grandparents were immigrants, he married a couple different immigrant women, and he regularly hired immigrants for the grunt work at the Trump properties.Bryanisbest said:AggiePops said:
Makes sense for anyone who wants a Republican President to vote for Trump if (when) he's the 2024 nominee. One thing to keep in mind though. While he'll no doubt do some things to the liking of conservatives, it's no secret that Trump himself is no true conservative. Meaning with no next term to stump for he'll no longer feel it necessary to pander to the rural, real job Americans who would be the base of his re-election. Campaign rhetoric is cheap and easy, especially for someone not already looking toward reelection. Meaning in turn that it's likely he'll do some things that will seem like a betrayal to that base. Time will tell!
New York Magazine named Trump as the most conservative president in US history. Their headline in 2018: DONALD TRUMP IS THE MOST PURE CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT EVER."
