You can tell some are having a hard time coming to grips (Trump) on this board...

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...to the fact that for whatever reason, Trump is going to be the nominee for the Republicans. The level of OMG look at THIS about Trump is getting old and tired at an ever increasing rate. Most of our first choice either in 2016, or now, was not Trump, but he's gonna be the guy. Haley is only there as a GOPe last stand in case something happens to keep him from being the nominee and walah, we get what the establishment wants.

Not my first choice by any means in 2016, and was really hoping DeSantis had not self destructed this time around (another topic, but it happened).

So, here we are. Trump. I did like his inauguration speech that caused the establishment to squirm like they had ants eating their privates, and he had some great policies, but was thwarted at every turn b/c not establishment. This tells us they don't have or want, what the voter does.

This leaves us on the Right with a defining moment. Are people going to sack up, hold their nose and vote against Marxism/Socialism/Real Racism, and throw in their vote for Trump, or just say "I'll not vote because I have higher standards, etc." and essentially hand over the wheels for eternity in this country to those that will do things like allow American Citizens to become collateral damage to save an open border, with all the crap that brings? Or the Woke driven assault on societal norms that have allowed our country to flourish as a shining light that has saved the world more than once?

The man is a jackass, but the world's history is ridden with leaders that have been a jackass and held evil at bay, at least for the time being for someone with a better temperament to ascend to take their place. A stop gap measure if you may.

Time for folks to sack up, hold their nose, and vote AGAINST the evil that resides within our border, not necessarily because they like Trump, but the alternative is demise on a short term scale of our country.

Trump. It's not WEF/Soros/Obama Socialism. It's the best option we are going to have.
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Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
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It's cute that you think we aren't already ****ed with either one of those *******s
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That is just an awful sales pitch. "I know you don't really like the guy, but vote for him anyway because he's not as bad as the other guy."

We are so hosed.
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Waffledynamics said:

Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.

Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?

For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
"Green" is the new RED.
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MemphisAg1 said:

That is just an awful sales pitch. "I know you don't really like the guy, but vote for him anyway because he's not as bad as the other guy."

We are so hosed.
How long have you been voting? That is politics.
"Green" is the new RED.
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Not voting for Trump. After an epic ass kicking Trumpians will cry that they were cheated and prepare for Trump 2028. Trump is an unmitigated disaster.
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I'm with you.

I'm voting for the stupid MF-er because despite his selfish, undisciplined childishness he's not a democrat. No democrat is worth voting for. Ever.

If we lose, again, it's the idiotic masses that prefer his shallowness over substance to blame. We get what we deserve. He may suck - but how anyone could support Biden is 100x times worse.

Sometimes I marvel how we as a species ever moved beyond a subsistence level of existence with a life expectancy less than 30.
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Is there a TLDLR for OPs? Cliff Notes maybe?
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Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.

Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?

For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.

Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
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I had no problem with Trump as president. I thought he did a pretty good job; all things considered. He probably would have done better if he didn't constantly have the uni-party, 3-letter agencies, the media, and all of the DC bureaucrats trying to stick a knife in the man's back for not following their Marxist agenda. Honestly, it's not Trump that should be reviled. That hate needs to be squarely focused on those running/ruining our country at this very moment. Those SOB's never sleep, never tell the truth, and never stop scheming to tear this country apart.
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GAC06 said:

Not voting for Trump. After an epic ass kicking Trumpians will cry that they were cheated and prepare for Trump 2028. Trump is an unmitigated disaster.


People like you will ensure a continued Democratic rule.
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No Spin Ag said:

Is there a TLDLR for OPs? Cliff Notes maybe?
If a 1.5 minute read is too long for you........
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The Chicken Ranch said:

GAC06 said:

Not voting for Trump. After an epic ass kicking Trumpians will cry that they were cheated and prepare for Trump 2028. Trump is an unmitigated disaster.


People like you will ensure a continued Democratic rule.



Yep


& ride a make believe moral high horse along the way
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Waffledynamics said:

Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
Get onboard the Trump train and stop being a pinche.
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DeSantis guy here and the OP is 100% right.
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Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.

Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?

For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.

Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
Your "opponent" (if it is ObamaBiden Marxism/WEF,etc) votes in a block, lockstep, to screw the average American, and perhaps YOU. It's high time we do the same for now.
"Green" is the new RED.
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Old Sarge said:

MemphisAg1 said:

That is just an awful sales pitch. "I know you don't really like the guy, but vote for him anyway because he's not as bad as the other guy."

We are so hosed.
How long have you been voting? That is politics.


40+ years. I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, proudly.

Not this time. Only possibility of voting for him is if it looks like he could lose Texas. Then I'd hold my nose and vote for him. But if it's that close in Texas we're hosed anyway.

You forced an awful candidate on us. Don't be surprised by the lack of enthusiasm. Candidate quality matters and R's keep picking bad ones. He can't keep doing and saying stupid **** and expect us to roll with it. No sir.

Might need to go ahead and let this version of the party burn down and rise anew from the ashes.

Never thought I'd say that, but I never thought we'd be here either.
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All these people crying about Trump are the same frauds that turn their back on conservatism in action. You want small government but don't support anyone that tries to actually do it. Trump wants out of NATO? Nope, won't support that. Gaetz gets McCarthy out and you turn your back on him. But please, tell us more about what your guy is going to do.
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Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.

Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?

For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.

Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
Your "opponent" (if it is ObamaBiden Marxism/WEF,etc) votes in a block, lockstep, to screw the average American, and perhaps YOU. It's high time we do the same for now.
Nope. Not unless there's some concessions. I'm sticking to my principles.

Again, if Trump needs my one vote to win Texas, y'all ****ed up worse than you ever could have imagined and deserve the L.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

All these people crying about Trump are the same frauds that turn their back on conservatism in action. You want small government but don't support anyone that tries to actually do it.
Small government? Trump? Seriously?

It's this kind of delusion that makes nobody even remotely conservative like Trump. Y'all don't now who you're voting for. You wishcast things onto him because he has the celebrity status. You're not one bit better than Obama fanatics. In fact, you are the equal and opposite reaction.
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MemphisAg1 said:

Old Sarge said:

MemphisAg1 said:

That is just an awful sales pitch. "I know you don't really like the guy, but vote for him anyway because he's not as bad as the other guy."

We are so hosed.
How long have you been voting? That is politics.


40+ years. I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, proudly.

Not this time. Only possibility of voting for him is if it looks like he could lose Texas. Then I'd hold my nose and vote for him. But if it's that close in Texas we're hosed anyway. (Then why not do your part to assure we are not?)

You forced an awful candidate on us.(NO SIR, you need to make reading comprehension a focus and read the thread and other comments by me) Don't be surprised by the lack of enthusiasm. Candidate quality matters and R's keep picking bad ones. He can't keep doing and saying stupid **** and expect us to roll with it. No sir. (your non vote will be for Marxism)

Might need to go ahead and let this version of the party burn down and rise anew from the ashes. (This probably needs to happen, just not at this inflection time in our country)

Never thought I'd say that, but I never thought we'd be here either. (Your comment here is understood frustration, like we all have. Now is the time to bide time, till we can do what is needed)
My comments to your post in bold, above.
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GAC06 said:

Not voting for Trump. After an epic ass kicking Trumpians will cry that they were cheated and prepare for Trump 2028. Trump is an unmitigated disaster.

Self proclaimed prophecies are ridiculous from the start.

Not voting for Trump thus enabling the outcome you can point and say I told you so. Congrats? The establishment wins and we repeat this dance in 4 years with the next anti-establishment candidate…

And the only cheating validity is if people like the Never Trumpers DID vote for Trump and the vegetable Biden or any D after 4 years of disaster still wins. That means either cheating or ideologies are incompatible and divorce is the only logical next step.
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Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.

Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?

For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.

Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
Your "opponent" (if it is ObamaBiden Marxism/WEF,etc) votes in a block, lockstep, to screw the average American, and perhaps YOU. It's high time we do the same for now.
Nope. Not unless there's some concessions. I'm sticking to my principles.

Again, if Trump needs my one vote to win Texas, y'all ****ed up worse than you ever could have imagined and deserve the L.
Politics does not equal principles. You sound like Bill Kristol. It is about preservation of values at this point, of which you evidently value ObamaBiden Marxism, over a jackass. Sack up.
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Trump fans should have heeded the warning or accepted that they may not have the support they need.

Why is Trump entitled to votes that he actively alienated? This isn't the same as other primaries. The guy has been absolutely disgusting to not only his opponents, but his opponents' supporters. He needs to own up to that and actively make an effort to win people over.

Meritocracy over entitltement.
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Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.

Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?

For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.

Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
Your "opponent" (if it is ObamaBiden Marxism/WEF,etc) votes in a block, lockstep, to screw the average American, and perhaps YOU. It's high time we do the same for now.
Nope. Not unless there's some concessions. I'm sticking to my principles.

Again, if Trump needs my one vote to win Texas, y'all ****ed up worse than you ever could have imagined and deserve the L.
Politics does not equal principles. You sound like Bill Kristol. It is about preservation of values at this point, of which you evidently value ObamaBiden Marxism, over a jackass. Sack up.
Sacking up is sticking to my principles instead of letting a NYC liberal's supporters bully me into supporting him.

You do what you want. You clearly don't need my vote.
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Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.

Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?

For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.

Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
Your "opponent" (if it is ObamaBiden Marxism/WEF,etc) votes in a block, lockstep, to screw the average American, and perhaps YOU. It's high time we do the same for now.
Nope. Not unless there's some concessions. I'm sticking to my principles.

Again, if Trump needs my one vote to win Texas, y'all ****ed up worse than you ever could have imagined and deserve the L.


Principles? You have already voted for him in the past. What concessions? Stop being a meanie and narcissistic in public as opposed to those doing it privately?
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Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.

Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?

For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.

Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
Your "opponent" (if it is ObamaBiden Marxism/WEF,etc) votes in a block, lockstep, to screw the average American, and perhaps YOU. It's high time we do the same for now.
Nope. Not unless there's some concessions. I'm sticking to my principles.

Again, if Trump needs my one vote to win Texas, y'all ****ed up worse than you ever could have imagined and deserve the L.


"Muh principles". That's why we ended up with Biden.
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Not voting Trump CaUse Muh priNicpales

Are the worst people whip around and complain when a dem is in the White House
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Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.

Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?

For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.

Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
Your "opponent" (if it is ObamaBiden Marxism/WEF,etc) votes in a block, lockstep, to screw the average American, and perhaps YOU. It's high time we do the same for now.
Nope. Not unless there's some concessions. I'm sticking to my principles.

Again, if Trump needs my one vote to win Texas, y'all ****ed up worse than you ever could have imagined and deserve the L.
Politics does not equal principles. You sound like Bill Kristol. It is about preservation of values at this point, of which you evidently value ObamaBiden Marxism, over a jackass. Sack up.
Sacking up is sticking to my principles instead of letting a NYC liberal's supporters bully me into supporting him.

You do what you want. You clearly don't need my vote.


This make me laugh he didn't even govern like a New York liberal ,
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Funky Winkerbean said:

All these people crying about Trump are the same frauds that turn their back on conservatism in action. You want small government but don't support anyone that tries to actually do it. Trump wants out of NATO? Nope, won't support that. Gaetz gets McCarthy out and you turn your back on him. But please, tell us more about what your guy is going to do.
You actually think trump cares about the size of government? Or fiscal responsibility? Getting out of NATO is a populist view, not a conservative one.

And it was confirmed this week that Gaetz went after McCarthy because of the investigation.
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Waffledynamics said:

Trump fans should have heeded the warning or accepted that they may not have the support they need.

Why is Trump entitled to votes that he actively alienated? This isn't the same as other primaries. The guy has been absolutely disgusting to not only his opponents, but his opponents' supporters. He needs to own up to that and actively make an effort to win people over.

Meritocracy over entitltement.

I never said Trump is entitled to anyone's vote. I said that countless times in the general elections going back to 2021 but was shouted down by the party before policy crowd that is happy with the establishment winning as long as it's the GOP version of it.

Trump is not establishment, but he's also not as conservative all around. No one meets that threshold, not even DeSantis. But if the goal is to give the middle finger to the establishment, then that is what Trump represents.

Abstaining only works if you abstain down ballot and with donations to give the GOPe a wake up call that it is not just Trump we are abstaining from, but all RINOs. The GOP is full of them and if you disagree then we will just have to agree to disagree on the definition of conservative.
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Jeeper79 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

All these people crying about Trump are the same frauds that turn their back on conservatism in action. You want small government but don't support anyone that tries to actually do it. Trump wants out of NATO? Nope, won't support that. Gaetz gets McCarthy out and you turn your back on him. But please, tell us more about what your guy is going to do.
You actually think trump cares about the size of government? Or fiscal responsibility? Getting out of NATO is a populist view, not a conservative one.

And it was confirmed this week that Gaetz went after McCarthy because of the investigation.


I cant help but laugh at you joining this thread. You are anything but a conservative.
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Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Old Sarge said:

Waffledynamics said:

Y'all bullied the **** out of everyone and are now crying at the disunity. Cry harder.
I did not bully. I was a Cruz guy the first time, and wanted DeSantis to rise.

Sack up. I was content to let the process play out. It has, and we have a choice. Which one are you and others going to make?

For someone that hates the Left, it's one that needs to be made, and not as hard as one would thinks given the alternative.
I don't think you get it. Trump has to earn votes now. Time for him to actually put in some work.

Trump has made his bed. He can lie in it if he gets unfavorable consequences. I'm not inclined to help save him unless he starts even acting like he did in the 2016 and 2020 elections. If my vote in Texas makes a difference, then he's in serious trouble that was extremely avoidable.
Your "opponent" (if it is ObamaBiden Marxism/WEF,etc) votes in a block, lockstep, to screw the average American, and perhaps YOU. It's high time we do the same for now.
Nope. Not unless there's some concessions. I'm sticking to my principles.

Again, if Trump needs my one vote to win Texas, y'all ****ed up worse than you ever could have imagined and deserve the L.
Politics does not equal principles. You sound like Bill Kristol. It is about preservation of values at this point, of which you evidently value ObamaBiden Marxism, over a jackass. Sack up.
We clearly prioritize different values… Like honor, fidelity, class, honesty, and just not being a dick.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Jeeper79 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

All these people crying about Trump are the same frauds that turn their back on conservatism in action. You want small government but don't support anyone that tries to actually do it. Trump wants out of NATO? Nope, won't support that. Gaetz gets McCarthy out and you turn your back on him. But please, tell us more about what your guy is going to do.
You actually think trump cares about the size of government? Or fiscal responsibility? Getting out of NATO is a populist view, not a conservative one.

And it was confirmed this week that Gaetz went after McCarthy because of the investigation.


I cant help but laugh at you joining this thread. You are anything but a conservative.
Ask Haley if I'm a conservative. I donated to her campaign, and I'd vote for her, too.
 
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