TikkaShooter said:

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Folks posting bout their IBS is peak politics board 2023. Sheesh

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Don't get me started on the results of my Taco Bell diet...

You guys should read this.



Key points from our review

• The book's scientific claims didn't fare very well overall, and we believe one of them is dangerous (the idea that high LDL cholesterol on a carnivore diet is neutral or even healthy).
• Reference accuracy varied widely and was middling overall.
• We think the diet is probably helpful for weight loss and managing type 2 diabetes, but its long-term health effects are mostly unknown, it may carry cardiovascular risks, and it doesn't deliver enough of several essential nutrients.
• Given that the diet avoids nearly all common foods in favor of pasture-raised meat and mineral water, it would be hard and expensive for most people to follow.
• There is abundant anecdotal evidence that the carnivore diet is helpful for various health problems, and we think this may point toward areas where science still has something to learn.

Bottom line: The long-term health effects of The Carnivore Code diet are mostly unknown, so take your grass-fed ribeye with a grain of salt.

For finding places to eat out without the seed oils

https://www.seedoilscout.com/

Funky Winkerbean said:

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The food pyramid is upside down.

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And it ruined a generation of kids.

I started the caveman diet at 50 and am in the best shape since my 20's.

stetson said:

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I started the caveman diet at 50 and am in the best shape since my 20's.

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Do you eat any processed lunch meat? Or is that a no-no for paleo / carni? Any cheese?

Who did that Review?

My problem with everything now adays (diet included) is when someone goes against the grain of main stream narrative it is always shat on by the main stream. I

I think the main reason for Americans getting fatter and fatter is 99% tied to sugar and processed foods. Sugar is in EVERYTHING now

Paul Saladino claims to still be eating "carnivore", but there's a ton of fruit in his "carnivore" diet now.

No lunch meats. Whole chicken, salmon, tuna, steaks, ribs. I didn't give up beer, however.

I said **** it and just got a script for ozempic and lost all I needed to.

Meat!


As long as you don't cook it on those craptastic induction stoves. They make people gay.

DDub74 said:

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Who did that Review?

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Stephan Guyenet

https://www.stephanguyenet.com

He's a really smart dude and quite fair in his critiques.

I gotta admit to having hard salami as a snack sometimes. I understand that's a no-no now but I love it.

BigRobSA said:

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Meat!


As long as you don't cook it on those craptastic induction stoves. They make people gay.

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This guy is straight, prefers induction, and quite literally wrote the book on current steak methods

https://www.seriouseats.com/reverse-seared-steak-recipe

I am cheating tonight on carnivore. I used to run a cottage law keto bakery, and this time of year my keto gingerbread cookies were a hit. So I made some tonight for the family, and at least it's almond flour and no sugar (monk fruit/erythritol and blackstrap molasses).

Who gives a ***** The guy wrote The Food Lab.

People that know about cooking give a ***** It's basically a must have in almost every modern kitchen.

I like Ken Berry MD

anaggieshusband said:

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I like Ken Berry MD

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Ken Perry is very good. Peter Berg is another good o e on YouTube. He got demonetized though because he's pushing a common sense narrative. In my opinion anyway.

The risks of significantly elevated levels of small, dense LDL particles are definitely understated by the carnivore and keto advocates, but those risks are still far below those seen with morbid obesity and uncontrolled diabetes AND the risks cab be dramatically and (usually) easily reduced with statins. It's much harder to deal with diabetes in most patients than high LDL cholesterol.

Give me a keto or carnivore patient over a typical western diet any day. Neither diet is optimal but one is FAR less likely to lead to obesity and the consequences are far easier to deal with.

hph6203 said:

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Paul Saladino claims to still be eating "carnivore", but there's a ton of fruit in his "carnivore" diet now.

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he doesn't really call himself carnivore anymore. He calls it animal based diet or ancerstrial diet. Meat, eggs, fruit, raw dairy, and honey.

Teslag said:

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I said **** it and just got a script for ozempic and lost all I needed to.

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Do you take ozempic with a jab?

Dr Atkins fought the battle to change the American Heart Association beliefs. Australia tried to jail doctors prescribing this diet.

94chem said:

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While the carnivore diet has increased protein intake, decreased calorie intake, and made a bunch of 40 YO sickly people get much healthier, there is evidence, no surprise, that this diet is not conducive to telomere length, which is the key to longevity. Cruciferous vegetables, phytonutrients, and exercise have to play a role in the long game. And carbs aren't evil. They're just abused by undisciplined people.

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Not being a smartass there, but can you cite the studies for me. I would like to read them, see how they were done and who did them. I agree telomere length is key to longevity but have never seen anything tying the carnivore diet to frayed ends, but then we can never stop learning.

I'm a Ph.D. scientist with 60 patents, but I won't even do my kids' homework for them

94chem said:

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I'm a Ph.D. scientist with 60 patents, but I won't even do my kids' homework for them

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Providing evidence for a claim that you make is in no way similar to doing your kids homework.

Teslag said:

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I said **** it and just got a script for ozempic and lost all I needed to.

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That's great that it worked for you. I have a lot of co-workers who take it and have lost a crazy amount of weight. I was going to take it, then wanted to see if I cut out snacking and white carbs would do anything.

I've lost about 15 pounds less than the doctor said I would with Ozempic. Granted, it's taken a few months longer, but so far, so good, and the weight is still coming off.

I figure as long as people do what works for them, that's all that matters. It's the ones who don't do anything, knowing they should, that are the problem. IMO.