Bullet Train is Back!

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https://original.newsbreak.com/@jalyn-smoot-1588339/2898655750882-texas-supreme-court-ruling-paves-way-for-30-billion-dollar-dallas-to-houston-bullet-train

Apologies if there already was a thread, but exciting news from the Texas Supreme Court who gave life to this project connecting Dallas and Houston. It also will include a stop in Brazos County which will be helpful for students from each of those cities which is probably 40% of the student body. Hopefully this is completed soon and gives Texans other (quicker) alternatives between the two cities. Should help further our economy as more and more companies are moving their HQ's and production here.
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With all due respect to the ag tag, this is horrible news and an awful precedent.
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Charles Hickson Knows
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What is the max amount of land we should cover in concrete and asphault? Max number of trees we should remove? At what point does the economy take a back-seat to more important things? Perhaps it never will?

Disclosure needs to happen soon.
Our thoughts on the current controlled EXTRATERRESTRIAL reality disclosure process and related US GOV cover-up? Once the uneasy, contagious giggling subsides, how will our civilization and the mislead sheep adapt to this publicly known reality? Are the good Shepherds withholding the truth in our best interest? Perhaps multiple species are involved?
AggieCo2023
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Care to elaborate?
AggieCo2023
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While I share these concerns this will certainly require less land and concrete than another highway expansion project. I've trailed on many long distance trains that manage to maintain the natural landscape very well. In the Alps for example.
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2023 needs better representation.
Malibu
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Southwest round-trip Lovefield to Hobby $240.
Bullet train $30B / $240 = 125,000,000 round trips.
DFW and Houston metro combined populations: 15 million
Round trips per person: 8.3

For the same cost as building the bullet train we could give every single person living in the Houston and Dallas metros eight round trip flights on Southwest. What a bargain for the Texas tax payer.
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AggieCo2023
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Then what happens after those 8 free flights lol? Also not sure if I want any Southwest flights after their holiday fiasco
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swampdog01
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Eminent domain should not be allowed for a 200 mile choo choo train that will serve less than 1% of the state population.
Take that 30 billion and add 2 lanes to IH45 would be more effective use of capital, and not involve stealing land from rural Texans.
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Elon's Hyperloop is the future. This is a foolish endeavor if they follow through with it.
AggieCo2023
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So eminent domain for more highways isn't stealing land; only when it's for trains? Also what about the millions of Texans who don't own cars are they just not allowed to get around?
ATX_AG_08
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Didn't this fail epically in California? And with some federal funding?
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A hyperloop vehicle that can hold a lot of people would be awesome.
Less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

Birds aren’t real.
AlaskanAg99
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Who's footing the bill?

The real issue is people who's land will be divided by the rail and the likelihood of inadequet crossings for them to access their property and the likelihood of reduced productivity. You can have "normal" RR crossings for HSR. Further eminent domain requires the taker to pay fair market value, but that will be a highly contested fight per parcel.

Lastly, the terminus of each end will be an issue. The rail line won't be going into downtown Houston or Dallas which will excaberare the last mile issue. And they will probably have to be built along existing RR ROWs, so you can look at a map to figure out where the lines may be and finally, they can't run normal freight on HSR lines.

Just have to look at the history of CAs massive HSR failures to see what future pitfalls may come.
aTm '99
AggieCo2023
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I trust Texans can handle a project better that Californians
Malibu
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AggieCo2023 said:

I trust Texans can handle a project better that Californians

Texas doesn't have the same topography issues that California does which makes things slightly easy. But in your first post you talked about how this could go through Bryan College Station. That should be the first lightbulb moment that Texas politicians are not that different than California politicians. The California rail plan ended up going to Lancaster, Fresno, and Modesto, which are not point to point hubs for LA to San Francisco. If you're already saying we can just detour to Bryan College Station I can guarantee you every two bit politician who can sit on the blue ribbon panel of deciding where the rail gets built will want their pork. Waco is going to want in on the action. So are a whole host of other minor cities.

This project will be doomed
F2Aggie
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They could walk, obesity is a real problem.
We can add a pedestrian lane.

Kill 2 birds with one stone.
TyHolden
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Why not just tunnel it?
Old Army Ghost
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AggieCo2023 said:

Care to elaborate?
bullet trains wont work in america

this isnt japan or europe

care to elaborate
Old Army has gone to hell.
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AggieCo2023 said:

So eminent domain for more highways isn't stealing land; only when it's for trains? Also what about the millions of Texans who don't own cars are they just not allowed to get around?


Not allowed? Who's preventing them from doing anything? People don't have a right to transportation methods that they should expect the government to give it to them. If they did why wouldn't we just expect the government to buy them cars instead of building them a train?
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AggieCo2023 said:

I trust Texans can handle a project better that Californians
Government is government.

Everywhere.
If this is completely private, it's one thing.
if it's paid for by taxpayers, it will be the same exact boondogle as it is in California
GAC06
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This boondoggle already disbanded did it not?
AggieCo2023
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There's literally perfect functioning trains in several other states lol. Why can't Texas do something Japan and Europe can?
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AggieCo2023 said:

I trust Texans can handle a project better that Californians
Well monorail bullet trains are about graft corruption and greed so that is highly unlikely
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Trump 2024
AggieCo2023
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Texas Central is a PRIVATE company… why you hate capitalism?
Old Army Ghost
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AggieCo2023 said:

There's literally perfect functioning trains in several other states lol. Why can't Texas do something Japan and Europe can?
lol

texas isnt the northeast corridor which is the [u]only[/u] profitable passenger train sector in the usa
Old Army has gone to hell.
TomFoolery
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AggieCo2023 said:

Texas Central is a PRIVATE company… why you hate capitalism?


I said nothing about my support or lack of support for the train project itself. Just interested in why not allowing for a train would be the same as "not allowing" people without cars to travel.
Old Army Ghost
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AggieCo2023 said:

Texas Central is a PRIVATE company… why you hate capitalism?
lol

private companies dont get eminent domain
Old Army has gone to hell.
unmade bed
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This Texas Supreme Court is trash on real property law and has been for last couple of years
swampdog01
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The highway is already there. And if it could involve acquiring land on existing right of way, then the answer is "yes" I am more in favor of a public highway usable by a majority of the population than a bullet train that is useful to few people.
As for 'millions' of Texans without
transportation, I dispute that there are more than a few thousand citizens that 1. Need to commute to/from dfw and Houston that 2. Don't have a vehicle and can't afford to travel by existing options
F2Aggie
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AggieCo2023 said:

There's literally perfect functioning trains in several other states lol. Why can't Texas do something Japan and Europe can?


Yes. The Houston Metro is a profitable, rider heavy train functioning close to where the bullet train will start/end.
one safe place
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AggieCo2023 said:

So eminent domain for more highways isn't stealing land; only when it's for trains? Also what about the millions of Texans who don't own cars are they just not allowed to get around?
"Millions of Texans who don't own cars?" Are you counting those too young to drive? If they don't own cars, they already don't get around, nor likely do they need to. They surely don't have much reason to ride a bullet train between Houston and Dallas. Apparently, they don't have any way to get to the station anyway.
 
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