Kenneth_2003 said:

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AggieCo2023 said:

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$TSLA is down 30% since I started this thread. Elon Musk has destroyed a once great company with his complete turn to fascism.

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Please define fascism. Next show examples of Twitter meeting that criteria under Elons ownership and how this differs from previous ownership. Finally please review and summarize the balance sheets and profusely of the "once great company."

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Don't even interact with knowledgeless trolls, especially liberal (oops, already specified knowledgeless) ones.

aggievaulter07 said:

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lol. You say "baseless". I say read the post I quoted.

Not that you care, but I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat. Both parties have done a swell job of trying to out-insane, and out-extreme the other. But, from the sidelines, it's pretty easy to spot the one that has the affinity for violence.

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Yes, Dems/liberals by several factors of ten.

Amazing how the mainstream programming narrative is that anyone who loves America or was proud of what America once was has automatically been vilified as a populist / nationalist and anyone associated with populist / nationalist might as well be named Benito or Adolph. How did we let our kids get this stupid and programmable that you can't love your country and be against the communist bolshevik takeover by simply wanting smaller fed and lower taxes, without being labeled a fascist?

Just totally disregard the fact that America's populist movement is more about smaller government, being left alone and nothing at all like Mussolini or Hitler attacking and vilifying all minorities, shutting down all dissenting political views and imprisoning political opponents, and full on nationalizing/federalizing everything like the communists want to do. In many ways, these Marxists are actually more fascist than those they accuse of being fascist. Free speech = fascism = Elon Musk - a free speech loving liberal - is a fascist now.. Good lord people are stupid.

AggieCo2023 said:

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$TSLA is down 30% since I started this thread. Elon Musk has destroyed a once great company with his complete turn to fascism.

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He didn't destroy it, he built it. The stock was just way over valued, and still is. And Tesla is predictably losing market share as other manufacturers now have competitive EV offerings.

Tesla was never more than a car company. It's the source of nearly all of their revenue. Tesla has also never executed well but they didn't have real competition in the EV space so they didn't have to.

All this discussion about politics and electron pushing (fiat market cap), and as far as I can tell, not 2 words about what actually will matter in the long term - technology.

TESLA is a concept car. The key question is whether it will evolve to win the format war once competitors are fully engaged, and once the energy source begins to approach something considered renewable (batteries included). Right now it's just a glitzy overpriced coal roller.

Will it be lucky enough (unlike Commodore and Beta) and good enough (unlike Polaroid and Delorean) to position itself as a household item?

Time will tell. But they certainly have the money to hire the best people to start really doing some work to make the cars affordable for normal people.

Kenneth_2003 said:

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AggieCo2023 said:

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$TSLA is down 30% since I started this thread. Elon Musk has destroyed a once great company with his complete turn to fascism.

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Please define fascism. Next show examples of Twitter meeting that criteria under Elons ownership and how this differs from previous ownership. Finally please review and summarize the balance sheets and profusely of the "once great company."

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It's what they are told to say. Anything against their progressive agenda becomes fascism. Makes no sense.

Concept car? Tesla is going to sell more cars than BMW this year.

milosh said:

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Concept car? Tesla is going to sell more cars than BMW this year.

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Yeah, it's just a placeholder for what the EV will look like 10 years from now. Technology, unlike politics, actually changes over time.

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I love that Libt##ds like the OP bought a Tesla to virtue signal how they were saving the planet. Since Musk exposed all the Dem censorship against conservatives he's their evil incarnate. But they still have to drive his car! Priceless.

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Best part is, op doesn't understand the market. Currently, Teslas market cap is ~355billion while TM is at 187billion. This means, Tesla is almost 200 Billion above the pinnacle of auto companies when it comes to market cap values.

The issue with Tesla is this was predicted bc it was highly inflated. Hence why Tesla did multiple splits. Why every knowledgable investor stayed clear from it except the robbin hood novices with their free covid money. Now that it's coming down to normal understandable levels they assume Tesla is done. Op, keep doubling down, bc it just makes you look dumber.

Just think, if your union stooge president had gone to the company the revolutionized the EV to what it is now instead of Government Motors, he may still be a blind democrat. Biden destroyed that relationship for you.

AggieCo2023 said:

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$TSLA is down 30% since I started this thread. Elon Musk has destroyed a once great company with his complete turn to fascism.

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You have got to be kidding me. In what way is center left, Elon Musk turning to fascism?

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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AggieCo2023 said:

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$TSLA is down 30% since I started this thread. Elon Musk has destroyed a once great company with his complete turn to fascism.

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You have got to be kidding me. In what way is center left, Elon Musk turning to fascism?

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Well for the first time since before this trolls balls dropped there is a 2nd viewpoint allowed on the platform.

aggievaulter07 said:

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lol. You say "baseless". I say read the post I quoted.

Not that you care, but I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat. Both parties have done a swell job of trying to out-insane, and out-extreme the other. But, from the sidelines, it's pretty easy to spot the one that has the affinity for violence.

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Did you miss the summer of love? Just because the media doesn't amplify examples of left wing violence like the do right wing violence doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The problem with "moderates" is that you give the left wing media the benefit of the doubt and use DNC narratives as the basis of your reality.

Elon has lost by far more money in the last 6 months than anyone ever in their entire lifetime.

I like Elon, but his twitter antics have cost him billions upon billions via Tesla stock plummeting. I also doubt Twitter is worth near what he paid for it now. He should have sold way more Tesla stock before bashing liberals (a key Tesla market) publicly.

IslanderAg04 said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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AggieCo2023 said:

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$TSLA is down 30% since I started this thread. Elon Musk has destroyed a once great company with his complete turn to fascism.

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Please define fascism. Next show examples of Twitter meeting that criteria under Elons ownership and how this differs from previous ownership. Finally please review and summarize the balance sheets and profusely of the "once great company."

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It's what they are told to say. Anything against their progressive agenda becomes fascism. Makes no sense.

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In other words...they're brain dead morons incapable of critical thinking.

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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IslanderAg04 said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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AggieCo2023 said:

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$TSLA is down 30% since I started this thread. Elon Musk has destroyed a once great company with his complete turn to fascism.

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Please define fascism. Next show examples of Twitter meeting that criteria under Elons ownership and how this differs from previous ownership. Finally please review and summarize the balance sheets and profusely of the "once great company."

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It's what they are told to say. Anything against their progressive agenda becomes fascism. Makes no sense.

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In other words...they're brain dead morons incapable of critical thinking.

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Max Stonetrail said:

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Now do Zuckerberg and FB. Cathie Woods fund at Ark.

Every high flying tech stock is down big this year.

Elon sold on the way down. Also a reason the stock is down.

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Facebook (META) was at $346 a share 1 year ago. Today it is at $117.

thats more than 50%, as well.

Also because the ultra successful ceo is now doing dumb ****, ie. sinking billions into the metaverse.

Easy to spot as the ones with affinity for violence:

moms at school board meetings who aren't happy their kids are being forced to stay home, wrap their faces with useless marxist control cloths, or get unneeded ineffective and potentially dangerous experimental shots... or are angry their kids are being taught to be ashamed of themselves and the horrible evil country they live in? Nope. Not violent.

older people or rural or suburban people who attend political rallies for politicians who want smaller fed, lower taxes, better trade deals, secure borders, and law and order? Nope. Not violent.

the unarmed mob that was (rightfully as proven by Twitter files) angry about collusion and election interference that led to a stolen election who were let into the Peoples' House and led by a shirtless vegan dude with a buffalo hat and killed a grand total of zero people? Nope.



Violence very hard to detect:

gang bangers in every city where the overwhelming vote goes for the free-handout welfare state socialist democrats?
the foreign and left coast billionaire-supported DAs and AGs who support decriminalizing violent crimes, cashless bail, empty jail cells, defunding police?
the party with a long history of bombing buildings, arson, and looting for "progress" such as baby killing and getting rid of police forces? The ones who are currently attacking pregnancy assistance centers and churches because they help people who want babies and don't fully support killing babies? the ones who were doxxing and hunting down supreme court justices who are guilty of interpreting the constitution?
the ones who give zero Fs about human and drug traffic, gang and cartel violence, and terrorist threats because an open border to allow millions of immigrants per year to waltz across the border unfettered is more important for "progress"?
the ones supporting tent city multiplication and dangerous drug death escalation across america?
the ones who supported arson and looting across the country based on lies about the statistics of police encounters?
the ones who support people losing their jobs, not being able to travel, and losing freedoms or being imprisoned because they didn't follow big government's flawed, misleading, and wrong narratives on covid responses?
the ones who want the law-abiding, job having, church-going, family caring other side to be the easy-to-spot violent ones so badly they have to create hoaxes about it all the time?

IDaggie06 said:

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Elon has lost by far more money in the last 6 months than anyone ever in their entire lifetime.

I like Elon, but his twitter antics have cost him billions upon billions via Tesla stock plummeting. I also doubt Twitter is worth near what he paid for it now. He should have sold way more Tesla stock before bashing liberals (a key Tesla market) publicly.

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Eloin has far more upside with Twitter than whatever money he's lost in his tesla stock this year. He's running the company successfully with a small fraction of the employees his predecessor used. and he's doing it publicly so that everyone sees how wasteful it was before. There's tremendous potential to take Twitter to new markets via video and digital pay avenues. Elon is doing just fine and setting himself up for massive growth at Twitter .

AggieCo2023 said:

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$TSLA is down 30% since I started this thread. Elon Musk has destroyed a once great company with his complete turn to fascism.

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It would benefit you no end to look up the definition of facism.

At what point should people be concerned about Tesla stock price?

It's currently at $109.86 and has been hovering/dropping.

I was eyeballing $80 puts at $160, but I wimped out.

nai06 said:

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At what point should people be concerned about Tesla stock price?

It's currently at $109.86 and has been hovering/dropping.

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I wouldn't touch Tesla stock until it hits $75, which will happen in the next 90 days.

nai06 said:

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At what point should people be concerned about Tesla stock price?

It's currently at $109.86 and has been hovering/dropping.

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AMZN started the year at $171 and is now around $83.

Guess they're finished, too...

ETA: I think I'm going to move some money into that soon to be bankrupt business in the near future...

TSLA is just coming back to reality. It was the last of the high PE multiple stocks to not yet crushed this year. TSLA is still overvalued though. I think it's still valued more than major companies combined. But if everything is going all electric, TSLA is a decade ahead of them and profitable while others getting into the business will have losses on their electric business.

That said, TSLA cars are no good to me. I think they're all ugly. I'd rather have electric S class or new 5 series coming out next year than TSLA. I don't care about self driving and all that junk.

AgBandsman said:

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IDaggie06 said:

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Elon has lost by far more money in the last 6 months than anyone ever in their entire lifetime.

I like Elon, but his twitter antics have cost him billions upon billions via Tesla stock plummeting. I also doubt Twitter is worth near what he paid for it now. He should have sold way more Tesla stock before bashing liberals (a key Tesla market) publicly.

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Eloin has far more upside with Twitter than whatever money he's lost in his tesla stock this year. He's running the company successfully with a small fraction of the employees his predecessor used. and he's doing it publicly so that everyone sees how wasteful it was before. There's tremendous potential to take Twitter to new markets via video and digital pay avenues. Elon is doing just fine and setting himself up for massive growth at Twitter .

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He's lost close to $200 billion. That's around what PayPal and YouTube are worth combined. I think you're overestimating what he can achieve at Twitter.

His net worth will rise when Tesla proves they can thrive during this recession.

Announce new factories, announce lower cost vehicles, launch the Cybertruck, improve FSD. Do all that without obliterating margins and Tesla will moon.

If you're not already concerned about a stock pricing losing 75% of its value in a year…. elons gotta go