No one woulda ever heard Harry's voice without an electrically amplified sound system.

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and the west continues to inflict hara-kiri on itself.

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brings back memories from wgn23 as a kid. loved to listen to him as the game wore on and he became drunk. even when slurring his words he was awesome.

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When the United Stats should be positioning itself as a key gas/oil exporter to the world, we have idiots in leadership... just really sad

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Indeed. True **** for brains leftist idealogues steering the ship. They'll take this however and spin it as though its a warning we need to be even more aggressive towards "green" solutions.

He's going "surrender monkey" by standing up to Russia? You seem confused

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Yeah, those guys. In 2018, they laugh at Bad Orange Man and his American simplisme.

In 2022 they are talking about setting up "warming centers" for the coming winter.

TexasAggiesWin said:

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When the United States should be positioning itself as a key gas/oil exporter to the world, we have idiots in leadership... just really sad. If only someone would have warned all of the European leaders

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the one positive is that because of the idiots in the EU,

they now need to have the Israelis and the Egyptians and the Cypriots work together for Eastern Med LNG terminals to be shipped through Greece and into Europe

bullish for peace!

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"Russia is using energy, like it is using food, as a weapon of war," Macron said. "We should prepare ourselves for the scenario where we have to go without all Russian gas."

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No one could have seen this coming

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He's going "surrender monkey" by standing up to Russia? You seem confused

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No you do. He's surrendering by giving up on oil and gas and coal and more nuclear energy. He's surrendering their sovereignty to Putin by insisting on more "renewables". Renewables = surrendering national energy independence.

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start with turning off public lights at night when they aren't useful.

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Not as useful?

Seems to me they are more useful at night. You know, in the dark. Just sayin…

France generates the vast majority of its electricity from nuclear plants. The article doesn't say what you just said.

France is having issues with hydrogen embrittlement cracking in their pipes at aging nuclear plants. Its causing their plants to go offline at they do stand downs and inspections. The powerplants are stuck between bureaucracy and an unforgiving supply chain.

At some point there's going to be a breaking point and Macron is going to quietly demand the powerplants fix it asap regardless of cost or regulation.

Dems have really grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory in the US.

We could be in a position to help but for our extremists EPA and the current administration, and global ESG idiocy.

NOT anything like those cheese eating surrender monkeys here:

https://snowbrains.com/cheese-rolling-race-tradition/

/No surrendering in the vid (some injuries, but...)

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France generates the vast majority of its electricity from nuclear plants. The article doesn't say what you just said.

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Lol, he literally said this....

.....calling for a faster shift toward offshore windfarms and more European cross-border energy cooperation to weather the current crisis.

You left off the part about diversifying gas sources, shocker. In the current situation France needs to do both. Or give in to Russia. You know, surrender like the OP ridiculously claims they're doing by not going along with Russia.

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start with turning off public lights at night when they aren't useful.

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Not as useful?

Seems to me they are more useful at night. You know, in the dark. Just sayin…

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Well they can just put in solar powered lights that run all day.

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France is having issues with hydrogen embrittlement cracking in their pipes at aging nuclear plants. Its causing their plants to go offline at they do stand downs and inspections. The powerplants are stuck between bureaucracy and an unforgiving supply chain.

At some point there's going to be a breaking point and Macron is going to quietly demand the powerplants fix it asap regardless of cost or regulation.

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Interesting because I'm confused by Macron's comments and his reaction because France gets roughly 70% of its energy from nuclear and has plans to build more:

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• Government policy, set under a former administration in 2014, aimed to reduce nuclear's share of electricity generation to 50% by 2025. This target was delayed in 2019 to 2035.
• In February 2022 France announced plans to build six new reactors and to consider building a further eight.
• France is the world's largest net exporter of electricity due to its very low cost of generation, and gains over 3 billion per year from this.

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Only 7% of their energy is from gas and inside that number it's not just Russia, so I'm not sure why France would have to take drastic measures here. Of anyone in Europe (and probably only behind the USA) they are the most energy secure country out there.

Either the data out there is misleading or Macron is just virtue signaling on Ukraine and unnecessarily putting his people through hardship. However, if what you are saying is happening maybe that's the real reason for his comments.

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Those Germans giggling at Trump in 2018 for suggesting they were too beholden to the Russkies for energy should never hold public office again at any level. Ever.

But we all know they've just moved up higher in the bureaucracy.

Yep. They are far too invested in prideful self-interest to admit mistakes. I sense the populace will hold them accountable when there is insufficient heat in homes and offices this winter and meaningful suffering ensues. Experience can be a very hard teacher.

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one MEEN Ag said:

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France is having issues with hydrogen embrittlement cracking in their pipes at aging nuclear plants. Its causing their plants to go offline at they do stand downs and inspections. The powerplants are stuck between bureaucracy and an unforgiving supply chain.

At some point there's going to be a breaking point and Macron is going to quietly demand the powerplants fix it asap regardless of cost or regulation.

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Interesting because I'm confused by Macron's comments and his reaction because France gets roughly 70% of its energy from nuclear and has plans to build more:

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• Government policy, set under a former administration in 2014, aimed to reduce nuclear's share of electricity generation to 50% by 2025. This target was delayed in 2019 to 2035.
• In February 2022 France announced plans to build six new reactors and to consider building a further eight.
• France is the world's largest net exporter of electricity due to its very low cost of generation, and gains over 3 billion per year from this.

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Only 7% of their energy is from gas and inside that number it's not just Russia, so I'm not sure why France would have to take drastic measures here. Of anyone in Europe (and probably only behind the USA) they are the most energy secure country out there.

Either the data out there is misleading or Macron is just virtue signaling on Ukraine and unnecessarily putting his people through hardship. However, if what you are saying is happening maybe that's the real reason for his comments.

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I think we're on the same page here. What is causing France's energy crisis is very far removed from what is causing Germany's. France had a couple nuclear inspections last year that caught cracking in pipes. It triggered further inspections and taking nuclear power offline. France generally orders a set of nuclear plants that are identical. So if one plant is having a cracking issue, the others of the exact same build need to be checked as well.

France is caught up in a material selection + maintenance + supply chain + bureaucracy issue for power generation. They're just getting unlucky during a period of energy upheaval. (Unlucky is a misnomer here, there is no luck in energy generation, just poor planning).

For industry though, you still need gas to run furnaces and heating. Its a big issue, but not nearly as big as Germany's gas needs.

Perhaps his speech was more aimed at Germany

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TexasAggiesWin said:

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When the United States should be positioning itself as a key gas/oil exporter to the world, we have idiots in leadership... just really sad. If only someone would have warned all of the European leaders

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the one positive is that because of the idiots in the EU,

they now need to have the Israelis and the Egyptians and the Cypriots work together for Eastern Med LNG terminals to be shipped through Greece and into Europe

bullish for peace!

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I'd look to N Africa if I were them. There already are some pipelines that cross the Med. Of course, the trick is making Libya politically stable. Especially w/ French colonial history. Turkey seems to understand. Get there before the Chinese do.

If the earth is ending in 12 years because of climate change why weren't they already turning off unnecessary public lights?

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Trump should ask them "Who is laughing now DumbF*cks"?

Germany and Poland have fracable gas formations I believe. Problem is that going back 20 years or so the anti fracing hysteria, funded in part by Putin, won't let their governments allow it.

Going to be a cold, hungry winter for Europe.

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one MEEN Ag said:

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France is having issues with hydrogen embrittlement cracking in their pipes at aging nuclear plants. Its causing their plants to go offline at they do stand downs and inspections. The powerplants are stuck between bureaucracy and an unforgiving supply chain.

At some point there's going to be a breaking point and Macron is going to quietly demand the powerplants fix it asap regardless of cost or regulation.

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Interesting because I'm confused by Macron's comments and his reaction because France gets roughly 70% of its energy from nuclear and has plans to build more:

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• Government policy, set under a former administration in 2014, aimed to reduce nuclear's share of electricity generation to 50% by 2025. This target was delayed in 2019 to 2035.
• In February 2022 France announced plans to build six new reactors and to consider building a further eight.
• France is the world's largest net exporter of electricity due to its very low cost of generation, and gains over 3 billion per year from this.

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Only 7% of their energy is from gas and inside that number it's not just Russia, so I'm not sure why France would have to take drastic measures here. Of anyone in Europe (and probably only behind the USA) they are the most energy secure country out there.

Either the data out there is misleading or Macron is just virtue signaling on Ukraine and unnecessarily putting his people through hardship. However, if what you are saying is happening maybe that's the real reason for his comments.

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Far be it from me to claim to be an expert at this stuff, but as with wind here, under 10 percent of capacity can be, still, a cause of brownouts/blackouts in times of high demand.

My guess would be that this is due to the fact that central Europe isn't in fact a series of separate grids/countries, but rather it is very interconnected, and the Russian cuts have already impacted French gas pipelines/providers a lot, and further marginal impacts around Italy/Spain/Germany/Benelux/Austria etc. will also mean France has to ship a lot of gas/electricity etc. to neighboring countries leading to further austerity ("electrical/energy sobriety") within France. But again I don't really know how they load balance/manage generation, just speculating about places like Lille, the riviera, alsace etc.

"Energy Sobriety" should be a moniker the GOP labels/attacks the Dem-CCP with through 2024.

TexasAggiesWin said:

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When the United States should be positioning itself as a key gas/oil exporter to the world, we have idiots in leadership... just really sad. If only someone would have warned all of the European leaders

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Hopefully the Holland-Sri Lankan reaction spreads among them and gains traction. The 21st C leadership mostly has proven absolute garbage in historical terms. When you consider their starting point, what they are seeking to just tear down for no reason from a good level rather than trying to hold something together during some disaster like the 30's, they are genuinely more malignant than the Axis.

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Germany and Poland have fracable gas formations I believe. Problem is that going back 20 years or so the anti fracing hysteria, funded in part by Putin, won't let their governments allow it.

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Looks like France banned this practice in 2011.

Just more suicide.