The realities of EV truck usage

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8:50p, 6/30/22
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Since there is a big push politically to move from gas to electric vehicles, here is a real world test of the latest and greatest EV truck, the new Ford Lightning and a new GMC pickup with a V8 gas engine. Both are towing a 6000lb trailer.

The comparison illustrates to me that EV trucks are not fully ready to replace things a gas powered truck can do…

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8:54p, 6/30/22
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In reply to munch96 • 9:11p, 6/30/22
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munch96 said:
Since there is a big push politically to move from gas to electric vehicles, here is a real world test of the latest and greatest EV truck, the new Ford Lightning and a new GMC pickup with a V8 gas engine. Both are towing a 6000lb trailer.

The comparison illustrates to me that EV trucks are not fully ready to replace things a gas powered truck can do…



Wow that sucks.
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9:15p, 6/30/22
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But 99% of truck drivers don't tow ***** They just want to be truck drivers.
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I won't be jumping on board the first generation of EV trucks, but with the rapid advancement of battery technology, I expect EV trucks to perform as well as, or surpass, gas trucks in the near future.

Of course, even then I probably still won't be able to afford one...
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In reply to munch96 • 9:16p, 6/30/22
So they said the electric truck gets half the range of the gas truck. Sucks balls. What's the cost of the electric truck compared to the gas?
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In reply to XXXVII • 9:18p, 6/30/22
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XXXVII said:
So they said the electric truck gets half the range of the gas truck. Sucks balls. What's the cost of the electric truck compared to the gas?


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In reply to Yesterday • 9:19p, 6/30/22
Yesterday said:
But 99% of truck drivers don't tow ***** They just want to be truck drivers.


Fair point. I still think EV's are very non green in many ways but vast majority of these trucks are commuter vehicles that occasionally want to move a few hundred lbs of stuff in the bed.

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9:24p, 6/30/22
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The ford lighting is a pos.
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9:29p, 6/30/22
Out of charge at 85 miles. LOL. Cost him $27 to get 75% charge. So $27 to go 65ish miles. The gas truck was getting 9mpg, so that would have been about $35 at $5/gallon.
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9:33p, 6/30/22
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Who the **** only tows 6000 lbs?

Anyway, its all fairy farts from start to finish. Ive seen the state of the art ev's trying to race and its a bad joke even in events tailored to their advantage.

Basic physics and logic eliminates ev's from any real practicality, and that is why they are being pushed on ignorant libs.
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9:35p, 6/30/22
Do these EV's come with a gym or Weight Watchers membership? Lots of Canes and who knows what else people will chow on waiting to charge
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In reply to munch96 • 9:39p, 6/30/22
Wow, so that's what Troy Aikman does in the off-season?
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9:40p, 6/30/22
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What a damn joke.
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In reply to Hammerly High Dive Crips • 9:41p, 6/30/22
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SB 43rd STREET OG said:
Yesterday said:
But 99% of truck drivers don't tow ***** They just want to be truck drivers.


Fair point. I still think EV's are very non green in many ways but vast majority of these trucks are commuter vehicles that occasionally want to move a few hundred lbs of stuff in the bed.



I looked at the Lightning but even with the long range battery I couldn't drive to the ranch and back without charging. Not to mention towing anything. But most of my friends with trucks drive 30 miles a day. It will work for many drivers.
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9:52p, 6/30/22
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I love my Tesla but there's no way I'm buying an electric truck. It just doesn't make sense so I'll keep my diesel Silverado.
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In reply to DallasAg 94 • 9:54p, 6/30/22
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It's not free
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In reply to Teslag • 9:58p, 6/30/22
A plug in hybrid would make the most sense, give it 40 miles of range and most people's gas diesel would go bad before they even use it.
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In reply to DallasAg 94 • 10:01p, 6/30/22
They cost about $20 (131kWh) to charge at home for 250 miles of range at 70mph (more in the city).
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10:11p, 6/30/22
Lolz

Electric vehicles are dog****

Lmao at idiots that buy these trash heaps
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In reply to Yesterday • 10:17p, 6/30/22
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Yesterday said:
But 99% of truck drivers don't tow ***** They just want to be truck drivers.
There are those of us who actually tow. Buy an electric truck if you want a brodozer to drive to soccer games.

Just don't crash the market for those of us who routinely have to yank heavy loads around.
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In reply to Artorias • 10:18p, 6/30/22
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I expect EV trucks to perform as well as, or surpass, gas trucks in the near future.
Not even in your grandchildren's future.
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In reply to My Name Is Judge • 10:21p, 6/30/22
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My Name Is Judge said:
Lolz

Electric vehicles are dog****

Lmao at idiots that buy these trash heaps


Awesome contribution with excellent analysis
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 10:23p, 6/30/22
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CanyonAg77 said:
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I expect EV trucks to perform as well as, or surpass, gas trucks in the near future.
Not even in your grandchildren's future.


It depends on the buyer. For many the electric truck is perfect. For some it's completely unusable. Hopefully we all get a choice and it's market driven.
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In reply to Teslag • 10:28p, 6/30/22
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Teslag said:
CanyonAg77 said:
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I expect EV trucks to perform as well as, or surpass, gas trucks in the near future.
Not even in your grandchildren's future.


It depends on the buyer. For many the electric truck is perfect. For some it's completely unusable. Hopefully we all get a choice and it's market driven.

That there are niche markets, no one can deny. Those niches will likely get bigger.

But to make a blanket statement that EV will surpass fossil fuels for all trucks in the near future?

Sorry, no way in Hades. I stick by my prediction of his grandchildren maybe being able to see that.
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In reply to CanyonAg77 • 10:33p, 6/30/22
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CanyonAg77 said:
Teslag said:
CanyonAg77 said:
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I expect EV trucks to perform as well as, or surpass, gas trucks in the near future.
Not even in your grandchildren's future.


It depends on the buyer. For many the electric truck is perfect. For some it's completely unusable. Hopefully we all get a choice and it's market driven.

That there are niche markets, no one can deny. Those niches will likely get bigger.

But to make a blanket statement that EV will surpass fossil fuels for all trucks in the near future?

Sorry, no way in Hades. I stick by my prediction of his grandchildren maybe being able to see that.
That is not what I said. Try reading again.
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10:34p, 6/30/22
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There is so much shear hate on this forum for any type of EV. I've never had one and don't plan on having one anytime soon but there is a market for them and technology is improving. For the trucks though, I think industrial/commercial is the better market. I work in the EV battery industry and pretty soon you are going to see a TREMENDOUS number of electric box trucks, electric school buses, electric "last mile" semi trucks, electric shuttle buses, etc etc. If you all think the EV industry is going to die, you are in for a rude awakening (And I am by no means a greenie)
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10:36p, 6/30/22
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Nobody purchasing these first generation electric trucks is going to use it for heavy towing...unless they are clueless. In the last 30 years of owning 5 different compact or 1/2 ton trucks I've only used the bed or towed light U Haul trailers. Considering I currently drive 25K a year with the potential to drive 35K due to work, I'll strongly consider an electric one when it's time to move on from the current ride.
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In reply to The Kraken • 10:40p, 6/30/22
New World Ag said:
Nobody purchasing these first generation electric trucks is going to use it for heavy towing...unless they are clueless. In the last 30 years of owning 5 different compact or 1/2 ton trucks I've only used the bed or towed light U Haul trailers. Considering I currently drive 25K a year with the potential to drive 35K due to work, I'll strongly consider an electric one when it's time to move on from the current ride.


You must enjoy sitting around charging stations
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In reply to Teslag • 10:41p, 6/30/22
Teslag said:
My Name Is Judge said:
Lolz

Electric vehicles are dog****

Lmao at idiots that buy these trash heaps


Awesome contribution with excellent analysis


The analysis was in the video genius…

Overpriced hassle with garbage performance & reliability
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In reply to Yesterday • 10:42p, 6/30/22
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Yesterday said:
But 99% of truck drivers don't tow ***** They just want to be truck drivers.


Why can't you people be patient instead of giving succor to our enemy china!
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10:43p, 6/30/22
Are we gonna have the battery technology in the next 10-years?

I'm not seeing it.

Its gotten better. But I'm still not seeing the technology.

There was a guy on here that was saying his Tesla has to power on while its sitting in the garage to run the a/c and cool the batteries. Its burning energy just to exist. It may not be a lot but you still consuming energy while parked.
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In reply to Artorias • 10:46p, 6/30/22
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Artorias said:
CanyonAg77 said:
Teslag said:
CanyonAg77 said:
Quote:
I expect EV trucks to perform as well as, or surpass, gas trucks in the near future.
Not even in your grandchildren's future.


It depends on the buyer. For many the electric truck is perfect. For some it's completely unusable. Hopefully we all get a choice and it's market driven.

That there are niche markets, no one can deny. Those niches will likely get bigger.

But to make a blanket statement that EV will surpass fossil fuels for all trucks in the near future?

Sorry, no way in Hades. I stick by my prediction of his grandchildren maybe being able to see that.
That is not what I said. Try reading again.

Okay

Quote:
I won't be jumping on board the first generation of EV trucks, but with the rapid advancement of battery technology, I expect EV trucks to perform as well as, or surpass, gas trucks in the near future.

Of course, even then I probably still won't be able to afford one...

Still sounds like you expect EV to equal or better gas in the near future.

I still think that's a couple of generations away.
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