Evil.

Like always, the state Supreme Court will have to clean up the mess caused by all the Beta judges.

But the 3rd Circuit will likely drag this out for months or longer like they did with the mask mandates, so the SC can't rule.

What the F is gender "affirming"?

That sounds like unscientific bull**** to my finely tuned bull**** detecting intuition.

There is gender dysphoria therapy in which the individual with such a psychiatric condition discusses issues and challenges they are facing with the condition and are helped to find the best way for that person to deal with those issues, but a true clinical psychologist isn't out there just "affirming" the impulses and behaviors of subadults. That would be unscientific and inappropriate for therapeutic assistance. If someone's behavior is causing them troubles or distress, simply indulging it isn't giving them the actual help they may require. It may turn out that the best therapy for the individual is in fact to role play their dysphoria, but the term affirmation implies that is the rote prescriptive solution.

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What the F is gender "affirming"?

That sounds like unscientific bull**** to my finely tuned bull**** detecting intuition.

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Just the latest Newspeak from the left.

They're trying to make childhood sexual mutilation sound like something good.

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"Gender affirming care"

The author of 1984 could not have done better

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Gender denying care.

Hmmm, maybe Abbott should have made this a priority in the legislative session instead of asking the AG for an opinion. At least we got rural broadband.

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"Gender affirming care"

The author of 1984 could not have done better

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Gender denying care.

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Where is the mental illness care? That should be the first priority...

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Mutilate as many children as you can in the meantime

Great job libs

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This order does not address surgery. No child genital mutilation is being done. Minors cannot get sex change surgery, and that was true before Abbott's order.

But you and everyone here already knew that. You are just saying "mutilation" because it gets more reactions.

The legislature had the opportunity to take this up last term, but couldn't muster the votes. So Abbott tries the dictatorial approach he liked so well with his Covid executive orders.

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The legislature had the opportunity to take this up last term, but couldn't muster the votes. So Abbott tries the dictatorial approach he liked so well with his Covid executive orders.

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Always funny seeing a liberal complaining about "dictatorial approach" when that is what your party does 24/7.

Strange how there are so many things that leftists claim are not actually happening and they have no desire for them to happen, yet they vehemently protest when the same thing is prohibited from happening.

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But you and everyone here already knew that. You are just saying "mutilation" because it gets more reactions.

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Chemical mutilation is still mutilation.

Puberty blockers do long term damage. You can't simply change your mind and expect the original plumbing to revert to normal.

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whatever you may think, parents who take the advice of medical professionals and give their kids these medication are not child abusers, and should not have their children taken from them. Abbott's order goes way too far.

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The legislature had the opportunity to take this up last term, but couldn't muster the votes. So Abbott tries the dictatorial approach he liked so well with his Covid executive orders.

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Always funny seeing a liberal complaining about "dictatorial approach" when that is what your party does 24/7.

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Its funny how conservatives claim they do not want government to insert itself between the doctor and the patient, and feel parents should have final say over their own children, but here they are, getting in the way of both.

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whatever you may think, parents who take the advice of medical professionals and give their kids these medication are not child abusers,

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"Medical professionals" can be ignorant and agenda driven, just as we mere mortals.

There is a laundry list of things that can't be done to minors or in their name that would be considered child abuse.

Yet somehow, the left thinks that destroying their genitals and modifying their sexual preferences is not only needed, not abuse, but is "affirming".

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But you and everyone here already knew that. You are just saying "mutilation" because it gets more reactions.

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Chemical mutilation is still mutilation.

Puberty blockers do long term damage. You can't simply change your mind and expect the original plumbing to revert to normal.

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whatever you may think, parents who take the advice of medical professionals and give their kids these medication are not child abusers, and should not have their children taken from them. Abbott's order goes way too far.

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Whatever you may think, yes huh. I think my argument is as substantial as yours.

when it comes to culture war issues, throw all those rules out the window.

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If lib parents would do some research instead of knee jerk sex change, they might learn something.

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By getting the child the help they really need, they might stop a future suicide attempt.

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Bubblez said:

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The legislature had the opportunity to take this up last term, but couldn't muster the votes. So Abbott tries the dictatorial approach he liked so well with his Covid executive orders.

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Always funny seeing a liberal complaining about "dictatorial approach" when that is what your party does 24/7.

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Its funny how conservatives claim they do not want government to insert itself between the doctor and the patient, and feel parents should have final say over their own children, but here they are, getting in the way of both.

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I would get in the way of a parent hitting their kid, starving their kid, or raping their kid, and be damn proud of it.

This is just a variation of that "getting in the way".

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I understand you dont agree with it, but gender affirming care can be life saving for some kids. Gender dysphoria is a serious mental condition. Minors commit suicide in huge numbers because they believe they were born in the wrong body and hate themselves for it. Sometimes medical professionals prescribe reversible hormonal therapies to help them transition and when they do so, they report much better mental health and happiness. Naturally, suicides go down.

Abbott and Paxton think they know better than these parents and their doctors, and they are being these families' strict father laying down the law.

Bottom line is it's no one's business what these families do, and it's wrong to forcibly remove these kids from the home and throw them into a broken foster system on this basis.

larry culpepper said:

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Bubblez said:

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Bubblez said:

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The legislature had the opportunity to take this up last term, but couldn't muster the votes. So Abbott tries the dictatorial approach he liked so well with his Covid executive orders.

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Always funny seeing a liberal complaining about "dictatorial approach" when that is what your party does 24/7.

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Its funny how conservatives claim they do not want government to insert itself between the doctor and the patient, and feel parents should have final say over their own children, but here they are, getting in the way of both.

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I would get in the way of a parent hitting their kid, starving their kid, or raping their kid, and be damn proud of it.

This is just a variation of that "getting in the way".

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I understand you dont agree with it, but gender affirming care can be life saving for some kids. Gender dysphoria is a serious mental condition. Minors commit suicide in huge numbers because they believe they were born in the wrong body and hate themselves for it. Sometimes medical professionals prescribe reversible hormonal therapies to help them transition and when they do so, they report much better mental health and happiness. Naturally, suicides go down.

Abbott and Paxton think they know better than these parents and their doctors, and they are being these families' strict father laying down the law.

Bottom line is it's no one's business what these families do, and it's wrong to forcibly remove these kids from the home and throw them into a broken foster system on this basis.

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It definitely is the state's business to protect children from their parents' bad decisions in some cases, like sterilizing them for life because they wear and Elsa dress at 8 years old. They can be coddled while they pretend to be a firetruck, a dog, a horse, a cowboy, an indian, a princess, a knight etc without changing their lives. No physical transitioning is a good thing before they are an adult and can make that decision for themselves, IMO.

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But you and everyone here already knew that. You are just saying "mutilation" because it gets more reactions.

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Chemical mutilation is still mutilation.

Puberty blockers do long term damage. You can't simply change your mind and expect the original plumbing to revert to normal.

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whatever you may think, parents who take the advice of medical professionals and give their kids these medication are not child abusers, and should not have their children taken from them. Abbott's order goes way too far.

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All for chemical and physical mutilation. Feel sorry for you and your ilk.

Abbott's order should give ALL who think about changing the chromosomally defined sex of anyone not yet an adult as defined by law significant pause and long-term consideration before proceeding with the life changing alteration.

So many physically-developed adults with the mentality of wanting to sexually change children is horrifying.

I trust the American Academy of Pediatrics on these issues much more than Greg Abbott or Ken Paxton to have an opinion on what is proper medical care.

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My Name Is Judge said:

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Mutilate as many children as you can in the meantime

Great job libs

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This order does not address surgery. No child genital mutilation is being done. Minors cannot get sex change surgery, and that was true before Abbott's order.

But you and everyone here already knew that. You are just saying "mutilation" because it gets more reactions.

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Take a step back and really think about what you're advocating for here...

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proper medical care.

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I trust the American Academy of Pediatrics on these issues much more than Greg Abbott or Ken Paxton to have an opinion on what is proper medical care.

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You sound like a person that has your preferred pronouns next to your name on LinkedIn.