There are any number of stories about birds and bats being killed by direct collision with windmills, but bats can be killed by flying near them - barotrauma (see below). Windmills need to be stopped.

I'm not sure why so many wildlife lovers and young people have been seduced by the propaganda of the green energy MSM. And why would this group support windmills that are killing millions of birds and bats over the years. Windmills via collision and barotrauma are endangering some species of bats toward extinction.

There is avian and bat blood on windmill blades and avian and bat blood on the hands of all those who support windmills.

https://windmillskill.com/blog/why-bats-are-insanely-attracted-wind-turbines

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Windmills Kill: An Initiative of Saint Francis Arboreal & Wildlife Association, Inc.
Why Bats Are Insanely Attracted To Wind Turbines?

....While bats clearly are killed by direct collision with turbine blades, up to 50 percent of the dead bats around wind turbines are found with no visible sign of injury.

The cause for this non-collision mortality is believed to be a type of decompression known as barotrauma, resulting from rapid air pressure reduction near moving turbine blades.

Barotrauma kills bats near wind turbines by causing severe tissue damage to their lungs, which are large and pliable, thereby overly expanding when exposed to a sudden drop in pressure.

By contrast, barotrauma does not affect birds because they have compact, rigid lungs that do not excessively expand.....

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https://windmillskill.com/blog/bloody-wind-turbine-carnage-emotional-report-germany

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Windmills Kill: An Initiative of Saint Francis Arboreal & Wildlife Association, Inc.
Bloody wind turbine carnage: an emotional report from Germany
In the Mrkische Allgemeine, March 12, 2018, as tweeted by Linda Rogers:

Wind turbine slays sea eagle

A sea eagle was slain by a wind turbine near Wernikow on the weekend. Workers at the wildlife sanctuary in Struck found the dead raptor. .....

.....Ornithologist Jrgen Kaatz: Dangerous turbulence from the blades

Wind turbines always spell doom for raptors and storks. "They perceive the blades to be a veil," says ornithologist Jrgen Kaatz. They cannot judge the speed of the blades at the tips. But the vortices are also dangerous air turbulence behind the turning blades.

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https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2014/04/06/tilting-windmills-dead-bats-and-the-search-for-clean-energy/

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National Wind Watchr:
filed: April 6, 2014 Maryland, Pennsylvania, West Virginia
Tilting windmills: dead bats and the search for clean energy
Credit: By Amy Mathews Amos | The Observer of Jefferson County | April 6, 2014 | wvobserver.com
....Bats emerge from their caves, ready to fill their stomachsand their ecological roleby consuming as many of those insects as they can after months of hibernating and fasting. Across America, bats save farmers more than $3.7 billion each year by eating pests that would otherwise destroy crops, and reducing the need for pesticides. But fewer and fewer have emerged in recent years....

But it does kill batsmillions of them across the country. And West Virginia is where the deadly truth of wind turbines first emerged.

Ed Arnett was there at the beginning.

The Mountaineer wind facility in Tucker County, W.Va., had just come online in 2003, one of the first along the promising Allegheny front. Other sites in Europe and the western United States had documented dead birds under wind turbines, and so as part of accepted protocol the operators at Mountaineer checked the ground beneath the turbines that first season. As expected, they found a lot of dead birds. What they didn't expect was all the dead bats; more than 2,000 of them in less than three months.

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https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2018/09/09/wind-turbines-kill-birds-and-bats/

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National Wind Watchr
filed: September 9, 2018 Wyoming
Wind turbines kill birds and bats
Credit: By Penny Preston | www.kulr8.com ~~

Cody Wind turbines produce clean energy, but scientists say they kill more than a million bats and birds every year. The Wyoming Nature Conservancy is developing a guide to help the wind farms protect the animals from deadly collisions in the future.

When golden eagles fly, they sometimes are looking down for prey instead of looking ahead. And, sometimes they don't see the turning blades of a wind turbine. So, eagles, and thousands of smaller birds and bats are accidentally killed by wind farms.

Director of Science Nature Conservancy in Wyoming, Holly Copeland remarked, "Over a half million birds and about a million bats, a study in 2013 by Smallwood, et al showed. And if you run those numbers out for Wyoming there are about 5000 grassland birds we would be losing every year…there was a paper that showed 20 eagles and in addition to that Duke Energy reported 52 eagles as well."

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Bird strikes by wind turbine blades has always been an issue. To expand on your comments, every source of power generation has issues. The MSM ignores the issues associated with green energy sources that are being propped up right now. Aside from the fact, the wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine.

If we use electricity to power the new world here are some of the issues:

1. The grid is already fragile - ref Winter Storm Uri, add load and demand on that and the situation gets worse. It is also just plain risk having all your eggs in one basket - concentration risk
2. The grid will need to be drastically expanded. Power lines everywhere and certainly getting to where the wind and solar are installed.
3. Batteries - good lord the amount of lithium mining that will need to be done to satisfy projected demand by 2050.... Mines are pretty and nothing ever goes wrong there. People are never displaced.
4. Whatcha gonna do with all those batteries AOC when they reach the end of their useful life?
5. Where you gonna put all those windmills and solar farms? The amount required to power the grid is enormous.
6. Also, with those you are going to need energy storage facilities to satisfy demand when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining and/or the demand is high. Battery storage facilities all over the place. More batteries. More risk.

The idea of green energy is a good and noble cause. It is not practical, at least not right now. Just ask the Europeans who are in the middle of an energy crisis because they shut down a lot of their base load power gen assets down that weren't eco friendly and the sun didn't shine as much and the wind didn't blow. Oh and then they stopped drilling for nat gas and decided to buy it from Old Vlad Putin. Definition of stupid decision making all in the name of political correctness.

The US needs a nuclear base load power energy policy with the appropriate amount of renewable to handle the flex demand. At least until I can go to Walmart and buy my Mr. Fusion and slap it on the F-250.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/07/bat-dogs-wind-turbines/619482/

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The Atlantic
Are Wind Turbines a Danger to Wildlife? Ask the Dogs.
Humans are terrible at finding bats and birds killed by wind turbines. Dogs are great at it.
By Sarah Zhang July 1, 2021

Estimates suggest that turbines in North America kill 600,000 to 949,000 bats and 140,000 to 679,000 birds a year. Dogs are, by far, the quickest and most effective way to find them.

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What does this do to the eco system? Bats are good for mosquito control, I know that.

Lots of windmills have been installed to the north of me in Crockett County. Years past I always see lots of ducks, all different types, come land in the tank. This year none.

Normally always see cranes harassing the baitfish, this year none.

Will be interesting to see if this is a definite cause or simply a small sample size so far.

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What does this do to the eco system? Bats are good for mosquito control, I know that.

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https://www.fws.gov/midwest/news/ImportanceOfBats.html

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Bats are one of the most important misunderstood animals

.....Bats play an essential role in pest control, pollinating plants and dispersing seeds. Recent studies estimate that bats eat enough pests to save more than $1 billion per year in crop damage and pesticide costs in the United States corn industry alone. Across all agricultural production, consumption of insect pests by bats results in a savings of more than $3 billion per year. While many bats eat insects, others feed on nectar and provide critical pollination for a variety of plants like peaches, cloves, bananas and agaves. In fact, bats are the sole pollinator for the agave plant, a key ingredient in tequila! A third bat food source is fruit, leading to yet another important role in the ecosystem - seed dispersal. Fruit-eating bats can account for as much as 95% of the seed dispersal responsible for early growth in recently cleared rainforests.....

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https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1749-4877.12552

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Bats and their vital ecosystem services: a global review
Leidy Azucena RAMREZ-FRNCEL,Leidy Viviana GARCA-HERRERA,Sergio LOSADA-PRADO,Gladys REINOSO-FLREZ,Alfonso SNCHEZ-HERNNDEZ,Sergio ESTRADA-VILLEGAS … See all authors
First published: 18 May 2021....

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It's not necessarily strikes that kill them. It's the invisible air pressure differentials affront the blades. Birds and bats flying through them is like humans scuba diving and then flying.

Wow, thanks. That's crazy and enlightening.

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There are any number of stories about birds and bats being killed by direct collision with windmills, but bats can be killed by flying near them - barotrauma (see below). Windmills need to be stopped.

I'm not sure why so many wildlife lovers and young people have been seduced by the propaganda of the green energy MSM. And why would this group support windmills that are killing millions of birds and bats over the years. Windmills via collision and barotrauma are endangering some species of bats toward extinction.

There is avian and bat blood on windmill blades and avian and bat blood on the hands of all those who support windmills.

https://windmillskill.com/blog/why-bats-are-insanely-attracted-wind-turbines

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Windmills Kill: An Initiative of Saint Francis Arboreal & Wildlife Association, Inc.
Why Bats Are Insanely Attracted To Wind Turbines?

....While bats clearly are killed by direct collision with turbine blades, up to 50 percent of the dead bats around wind turbines are found with no visible sign of injury.

The cause for this non-collision mortality is believed to be a type of decompression known as barotrauma, resulting from rapid air pressure reduction near moving turbine blades.

Barotrauma kills bats near wind turbines by causing severe tissue damage to their lungs, which are large and pliable, thereby overly expanding when exposed to a sudden drop in pressure.

By contrast, barotrauma does not affect birds because they have compact, rigid lungs that do not excessively expand.....

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https://windmillskill.com/blog/bloody-wind-turbine-carnage-emotional-report-germany

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Windmills Kill: An Initiative of Saint Francis Arboreal & Wildlife Association, Inc.
Bloody wind turbine carnage: an emotional report from Germany
In the Mrkische Allgemeine, March 12, 2018, as tweeted by Linda Rogers:

Wind turbine slays sea eagle

A sea eagle was slain by a wind turbine near Wernikow on the weekend. Workers at the wildlife sanctuary in Struck found the dead raptor. .....

.....Ornithologist Jrgen Kaatz: Dangerous turbulence from the blades

Wind turbines always spell doom for raptors and storks. "They perceive the blades to be a veil," says ornithologist Jrgen Kaatz. They cannot judge the speed of the blades at the tips. But the vortices are also dangerous air turbulence behind the turning blades.

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https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2014/04/06/tilting-windmills-dead-bats-and-the-search-for-clean-energy/

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National Wind Watchr:
filed: April 6, 2014 Maryland, Pennsylvania, West Virginia
Tilting windmills: dead bats and the search for clean energy
Credit: By Amy Mathews Amos | The Observer of Jefferson County | April 6, 2014 | wvobserver.com
....Bats emerge from their caves, ready to fill their stomachsand their ecological roleby consuming as many of those insects as they can after months of hibernating and fasting. Across America, bats save farmers more than $3.7 billion each year by eating pests that would otherwise destroy crops, and reducing the need for pesticides. But fewer and fewer have emerged in recent years....

But it does kill batsmillions of them across the country. And West Virginia is where the deadly truth of wind turbines first emerged.

Ed Arnett was there at the beginning.

The Mountaineer wind facility in Tucker County, W.Va., had just come online in 2003, one of the first along the promising Allegheny front. Other sites in Europe and the western United States had documented dead birds under wind turbines, and so as part of accepted protocol the operators at Mountaineer checked the ground beneath the turbines that first season. As expected, they found a lot of dead birds. What they didn't expect was all the dead bats; more than 2,000 of them in less than three months.

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https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2018/09/09/wind-turbines-kill-birds-and-bats/

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National Wind Watchr
filed: September 9, 2018 Wyoming
Wind turbines kill birds and bats
Credit: By Penny Preston | www.kulr8.com ~~

Cody Wind turbines produce clean energy, but scientists say they kill more than a million bats and birds every year. The Wyoming Nature Conservancy is developing a guide to help the wind farms protect the animals from deadly collisions in the future.

When golden eagles fly, they sometimes are looking down for prey instead of looking ahead. And, sometimes they don't see the turning blades of a wind turbine. So, eagles, and thousands of smaller birds and bats are accidentally killed by wind farms.

Director of Science Nature Conservancy in Wyoming, Holly Copeland remarked, "Over a half million birds and about a million bats, a study in 2013 by Smallwood, et al showed. And if you run those numbers out for Wyoming there are about 5000 grassland birds we would be losing every year…there was a paper that showed 20 eagles and in addition to that Duke Energy reported 52 eagles as well."

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Whoa whoa whoa, who do you think is responsible for the seduction? GE made most of the damn turbines

Or is this the "don't hate the manipulative player. Hate the game."

Striking back against windmills! The Green Windmillers are on the wrong side of history. Even the Green Lefties in the National Audubon Society are waking up to the bird and bat carnage from windmill turbines.

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/east-bay-county-sued-over-wind-turbine-projects-threat-to-bats-and-birds/

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The Press Democrat
Alameda County sued over wind turbine project's threat to bats and birds

AMANDA BARTLETT
SFGATE
November 21, 2021
The National Audubon Society is suing Alameda County over its recent approval of a controversial new wind turbine facility at Altamont Pass. It's been described as a "poorly planned project" that's a threat to birds and bats in the area due to its lack of sufficient environmental review, according to a press release shared by the organization Wednesday.

Commissioned in 1981, The Altamont Pass wind farm was one of the first of its kind in the country and is also one of the most highly concentrated in the world, with roughly 5,000 wind turbines built over a 56-square-mile area. The National Audubon Society argued the turbines have long been hazardous to migratory avian species such as the golden eagle, whose nesting population at Altamont Pass is the densest in the world, though their numbers have been declining in the region due to incidents related to the turbines, the press release stated. Populations of western burrowing owls, red-tailed hawks and tricolored blackbirds have also been impacted over the years.

Once considered at risk of extinction, golden eagles have been protected under the Bald and Gold Eagle Protection Act since 1940. Though they have since been delisted from the Endangered Species Act, they are still protected under federal law, and it's illegal to kill one without a permit. The raptors boast seven-foot-wingspans and are often seen flying low near the turbines in Altamont Pass to avoid wind resistance and to hunt for ground squirrels and fish, though their keen eyesight doesn't always help them avoid collisions with the spinning blades of the turbines.

The wind turbines have resulted in the deaths of as many as 4,700 birds at Altamont Pass every year, according to the Golden Gate Audubon Society.

"Fifteen years ago, Alameda County and the wind companies settled a lawsuit with the Audubon chapters and committed to reduce bird deaths by 50% by 2009. With the approval of this project, the County is putting the Altamont Pass back on pace to kill as many Golden Eagles as it did 15 years ago," Glenn Phillips, Executive Director of the Golden Gate Audubon Society, said in the press release.

The project at Mulqueeny Ranch was approved by Alameda County supervisors on Oct. 7, despite an appeal from the National Audubon Society requesting that the Alameda County Board of Supervisors "hear its recommendations on how the project could be modified to reduce impacts to the birds." The developer of the project, Brookfield Renewables, LLC, objected to the independent review.

The National Audubon Society also called the wind farm located between Livermore and Tracy a "black eye on the entire wind industry since its construction" and "a population sink" for Golden Eagles.

It's the first time the organization has filed a lawsuit in opposition to a wind project in California.

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The best thing about wind power.



Awesome gifs of them being destroyed.

If left up to the idiot President Biden administration the solution will be a bird tax and a bat tax, you know kinda like a carbon tax. Solves nothing but redistribution of wealth is attained.

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It's not necessarily strikes that kill them. It's the invisible air pressure differentials affront the blades. Birds and bats flying through them is like humans scuba diving and then flying.

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I got that from the OP

I'm trying to figure how close they have to be to the blades to be within the pressure wave.

Maybe a reason to move to offshore wind. But I forgot, wealthy green libs don't like seeing windmills off the coast because they think it's ugly. And the hypocrites would rather kill bats then sea birds I guess.

You know how you know wind turbines are a bad idea? The left supports them!

To use endangered bats as an example, linear transmission projects affect bats through the conversion of forest habitat to grassland rights of way, which depending on the bat species may or may not provide foraging habitat while reducing the availability of roosting habitat (dead trees mama bats raise their babies in). Wind farms on the other hand directly kill bats through their operation. The same can be said for birds. To reduce the risks and impacts pipeline/electric transmission projects typically only clear trees in the winter to avoid harming bats. Wind farms don't operate seasonally and can potentially kill bats when they are not hibernating during spring through fall. Some of the best places for wind farms are major migratory pathways. Nothing is without impact.

Nobody really gives a **** about some birds dying, right?

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Wind turbines always spell doom for raptors and storks. "They perceive the blades to be a veil," says ornithologist Jrgen Kaatz. They cannot judge the speed of the blades at the tips. But the vortices are also dangerous air turbulence behind the turning blades.

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I was out in Illinois back in the late 2000s on a tour of a windmill farm. The property owner (multi-generation farmer) had 40 3 MW mills on his family property. He made $10,000 per mill per year in lease rates on a combined area of less than 5 acres on his 300 ac farm. Plus he got an admin fee ($50K year from what I remember) to monitor the mills. He loved it.

The only draw back was that he watched numerous bird explode as they flew into the blades. He said the tips were traveling at approximately 150mph during moderate winds. Birds never stood a chance.


Same thing happens every single day to birds and critters on highways / roads throughout the country........

How about kid's blood? That lithium, nickel, and cadmium doesn't dig itself!

thousands of migratory ducks and geese as well.

"Does the wind always blow? No? Next idea"

Should have been the full extent of the conversation when it comes to giving wind any kind of role in our energy strategy

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How about kid's blood? That lithium, nickel, and cadmium doesn't dig itself!

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Most of the supporters of wind energy don't mind a bit of kids' blood based on their abortion stance. Now birds or bats on the other hand... that's serious business.

Let's see if can use a little liberal magic and frame a question they would ask had this been a conservative idea.

Why do liberals hate all animals that have wings? I think that's how they do it.

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You know how you know wind turbines are a bad idea? The left supports them!

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Spot on!
Why do all Green Energy Windmill supporting Liberals hate all animals that fly????!!!!!

Two project that should be defunded and abandoned - see below:

https://spectrumnews1.com/oh/columbus/news/2021/12/07/challenge-to-major-wind-project-heard-by-ohio-supreme-court

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Challenge to major wind project heard by Ohio Supreme Court
By Ryan Schmelz Cleveland PUBLISHED 1:50 PM ET Dec. 08, 2021
CLEVELAND A first-of-its-kind wind project in the country is facing what could be its final legal hurdle in front of the Ohio Supreme Court.

The Icebreaker Wind project would put a series of wind turbines 10 miles off the coast of Lake Erie.

Two Bratenahl residents, though, took issue with the Ohio Power Siting Board's decision to grant a certification to the project to allow construction.

The residents' lawyer argued to the Ohio Supreme Court that the board approved the plan without properly determining its environmental impact, especially to birds and bats.....

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https://spectatorworld.com/topic/joe-biden-offshore-wind-energy-physics/

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Biden's offshore wind goal is a waste of energy
The administration's target is a lofty thirty gigawatts of offshore wind operating by 2030
December 8, 2021 | 10:13 pm Written by: Michael Fumento

After realizing that offshore wind turbines only supply about 2 percent of all US grid energy (and about 1 percent worldwide), the Biden administration has decided it needs a big push. It hasn't cogitated that just maybe there's a reason for this. There is: it's called "physics."

The administration's goal is a lofty thirty gigawatts of offshore wind operating by 2030, compared to currently just forty-two megawatts of offshore wind from a grand total of seven turbines. A gigawatt is 1,000 megawatts so we'd have to increase output by about 700 times. By comparison, the largest US nuclear plant produces almost four gigawatts of power, while a Japanese one produces twice that. Hence, four nuclear plants could produce more energy than the entire Biden plan....

...The Audubon Society has called them "Giant Cuisinarts for birds," including bald and golden eagles. But it's really bats that get shredded because they're apparently drawn to the turbines as opposed to being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Offshore turbines will still kill birds, but at least not eagles and will only kill bats with boats....

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Blight

I can't recall the actual data but it's within a 20-foot buffer of the blade and rotor swept zone (rsz).

As someone else said the tips on bigger windmills are moving at 140+ mph and they create giant air cavities which cause the major change in barometric pressure which is what Kills the bats.

The bats also run into the turbine body itself due to its shape. Most bats can't actually detect that it's there, since it's almost a perfect circle it is masked from their echolocation, so a big number of bats die from running into the turbine base itself.

Bird and Bat deaths aren't even in the top 20 reasons against wind over fossil fuels

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They are building a few hundred near me including in my community. From what I understand, nearly everyone who is getting them in that development signed up for them like 15 years ago. There is some question how many would still sign up today. It sounds like there would be far fewer if they had to get fresh permission today. Some of my neighbors have nothing good to say about them. They are sure happy that they didn't sign any agreements for them years ago before they saw the cold reality.

I was told that someone bought a house and farm a few miles to the south who doesn't want them, but were unhappy to find that the previous owner had sold the wind rights. They tried to stop them, but they were unable so they are getting them on their farm.

Ask yourself why they prefer to build the projects on other people's property instead of buying the property and then building it on their own property.

My niece's husband has some on their family farm. From what I understand, he'd really like to see them gone. It seems that the royalties were never what the developers promised and since they hadn't run in a couple of years or more, he's not getting any royalty checks at all now. It seems to me that if you are going to get wind generators, it might be far better to opt for fixed monthly payments as long as they are there instead of royalty checks based on electricity actually produced.

These are not far from me:







The owner was some company overseas that went bankrupt.

Went pheasant hunting near Brookings SD (southeast side of state) 2 weeks ago.

Hunted adjacent to property with large windmills on them.

Lots of signs up opposing them and even some appealing to land owners to not give in to companies and government there.

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Went pheasant hunting near Brookings SD (southeast side of state) 2 weeks ago.

Hunted adjacent to property with large windmills on them.

Lots of signs up opposing them and even some appealing to land owners to not give in to companies and government there.

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They have generally been well received around here. The engineer on one project said that this was the first place he'd been where he would consider bringing his wife and kid with him for a wind generator project.

That seems to be changing, though. Many people aren't as happy to see them as they once were. Even people who are getting wind generators on their land seem to have more bad things to say about them.

We aren't getting any generators on our farm, but we did sell an easement for an underground power line across a half mile of the farm.