OSHA Emergency Temporary Standard about to drop

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Agthatbuilds
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The round about way which the biden admin has attempted to coerce, manipulate, and extort companies and citizens into taking this vaccine is a real tragedy and stain on our country.


At the very least, be direct
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BuddysBud said:

Has anyone noticed the "T" in ETS.

A state law is permanent unless reversed by another law.

An Emergency Temporary Standard should only be applicable for a limited time. Since COVID cases are decreasing and COVID is now a permanent part of our lives, the criteria for issuing a ETS is no longer valid.

So first FCCP and FAF for giving us this disease and FJB And FMSM for continuing the fear mongering.


An ETS is effective for 6 months. During that time OSHA has to go through its normal rule making process in order to make the standard permanent.
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TEXIT NOW
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Just another case of the Dems weaponizing federal agencies to rip away your rights and privacy. Nothing to see here.
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Agthatbuilds said:

The round about way which the biden admin has attempted to coerce, manipulate, and extort companies and citizens into taking this vaccine is a real tragedy and stain on our country.


At the very least, be direct
FJB
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Boycott DC in every way possible
Fight against the dictatorship of the federal bureaucracy!
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Tea Party said:

It's citizens vs the government. I have zero faith one branch of the government will reign in the tyranny another branch is putting forth.
The issues of 1775 were solved that way, not by a court part of the system starting to oppress them. That's the catch 22 that arises these days.
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When people say "do the right thing" they mean give up your freedom so a select few may live a little longer, but you'll never get that freedom back.

In my opinion, in this instance, doing the right thing is fighting for everyone else's freedom. That does much more good in the long run than getting the shot with little scientific justification (immunity, natural immunity, low risk categories, etc)
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An ETS is effective for 6 months. During that time OSHA has to go through its normal rule making process in order to make the standard permanent.
One of the many weaknesses in the ETS - the DOL has had 10 months to engage in rulemaking, particularly since Biden signed an EO on the first day in office directing the DOL to issue an ETS. The rationale behind an ETS is that it was needed b/c the DOL didn't have enough time to engage in rulemaking to address an imminent safety issue.
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Just part of our new scheme of government, like having the CDC set housing policy.
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The CDC is now running healthcare, education, legislation, business, commerce, air travel and Christmas at Nana and Papas.
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oldarmyjess66 said:

Supreme Court = Bunch of Cowards
The refuse to take up any cases that are controversial.
I believe they might be afraid. Afraid that the left will pack the court and of course they don't want their importance diminished by sharing the bench.
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I don't think the Supreme Court is afraid. I think that some of them or maybe just a key individual is beholden to do the bidding of those in charge.
Who is John Galt?

2026
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Ciboag96 said:

The CDC is now running healthcare, education, legislation, business, commerce, air travel and Christmas at Nana and Papas.
That has the definite makings of a good dystopian novel where the US descends into totalitarianism, only we've been living it the last two years.
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Maybe Russia will nuke DC.
I bet you would like that Vlad.
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TxTarpon said:


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Maybe Russia will nuke DC.
I bet you would like that Vlad.

Does anyone else have a nuke that can reach DC?
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TxTarpon said:


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Maybe Russia will nuke DC.
I bet you would like that Vlad.



Ahh yes, the Russians are the badguys. They are definitely way worse than the oligarchs ruling in DC currently.

Do I want it to happen? No. Would i shed a tear if it did? No.
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TxTarpon said:


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Maybe Russia will nuke DC.
I bet you would like that Vlad.


I would very much like it.

Not a dime's difference between Putin and Biden.

Oh wait, Putin has not issued a national decree to get the vax, so there is that! And Putin is not allowing his country to be invaded and taken over by foreigners, so there is that too. And Putin is not paying queens to sit at home while the rest of us support them. And Putin is producing all the O&G he can, not shutting down drilling. ETC ETC

GFY!
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Cassius said:

TxTarpon said:


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Maybe Russia will nuke DC.
I bet you would like that Vlad.


I would very much like it.

Not a dime's difference between Putin and Biden.

Oh wait, Putin has not issued a national decree to get the vax, so there is that! And Putin is not allowing his country to be invaded and taken over by foreigners, so there is that too. And Putin is not paying queens to sit at home while the rest of us support them. And Putin is producing all the O&G he can, not shutting down drilling. ETC ETC

GFY!


I miss having a nationalist leader.
TxTarpon
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They are definitely way worse than the oligarchs ruling in DC currently.

Do I want it to happen? No. Would i shed a tear if it did? No.
This Oligarchy?
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We will never give up our guns Steve, we don't care if there is a mass shooting every day of the week.
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TxTarpon
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We get it commie boy.


No pentagon and your comrades can make the big change happen.


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We will never give up our guns Steve, we don't care if there is a mass shooting every day of the week.
-BarronVonAwesome

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TxTarpon said:

We get it commie boy.


No pentagon and your comrades can make the big change happen.




GFY harder!
TxTarpon
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You dirty commie.
Deport yourself.
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We will never give up our guns Steve, we don't care if there is a mass shooting every day of the week.
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The infuriating part is that everyone now knows the vaccines do not work as originally intended and do not stop any spread of the disease. They only function as a therapeutic preventative for severe illness. They aren't doing Jack **** to "stop the spread" any longer. The data is abundantly clear on that. It is simply a matter of personal risk and health. The group or community no longer has anything to benefit from regarding vaccination except maybe medical complications costs, but if that was really a concern, they'd be hammering fatties to lose weight or get fired.
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Hello, unemployment!

Though I fear I won't qualify for the "paid not to work" crowd.
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MouthBQ98 said:

The infuriating part is that everyone now knows the vaccines do not work as originally intended and do not stop any spread of the disease. They only function as a therapeutic preventative for severe illness. They aren't doing Jack **** to "stop the spread" any longer. The data is abundantly clear on that. It is simply a matter of personal risk and health. The group or community no longer has anything to benefit from regarding vaccination except maybe medical complications costs, but if that was really a concern, they'd be hammering fatties to lose weight or get fired.
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This needs to happen.
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oldarmyjess66 said:

Supreme Court = Bunch of Cowards
The refuse to take up any cases that are controversial.
That is like ... Their F@#%ing JOB!
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I wish common sense would take over and this became more widely spoken. This alone would slowly get things back to normal. But the powers that be clearly don't want this to happen.
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jefe95 said:

I wish common sense would take over and this became more widely spoken. This alone would slowly get things back to normal. But the powers that be clearly don't want this to happen.
I'm afraid they don't care. They (the feds) are in a full blown marxist push right now. Not just with COVID, but with everything including collapsing the dollar. American Marxism is here. It's not just coming soon. It's here. If states and courts don't push back then I'm afraid America will be a shell of itself in the next 10 years.
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MouthBQ98 said:

The infuriating part is that everyone now knows the vaccines do not work as originally intended and do not stop any spread of the disease. They only function as a therapeutic preventative for severe illness. They aren't doing Jack **** to "stop the spread" any longer. The data is abundantly clear on that. It is simply a matter of personal risk and health. The group or community no longer has anything to benefit from regarding vaccination except maybe medical complications costs, but if that was really a concern, they'd be hammering fatties to lose weight or get fired.
Was not that long ago that saying that was a bat signal for a certain poster. Did he get banned?
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I do love the bridge jumping, but when it gets to SCOTUS it is unlikely that the OSHA order stands.

The question is not whether masks or vaccines work or don't work. The issue is whether OSHA has the authority to require medical procedures as some kind of safety issue that they have jurisdiction over. I think it likely is a 5-4 vote against, with Roberts siding with the lefties.

The WH knows this is DOA with SCOTUS.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill
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pagerman @ work said:

I do love the bridge jumping, but when it gets to SCOTUS it is unlikely that the OSHA order stands.

The question is not whether masks or vaccines work or don't work. The issue is whether OSHA has the authority to require medical procedures as some kind of safety issue that they have jurisdiction over. I think it likely is a 5-4 vote against, with Roberts siding with the lefties.

The WH knows this is DOA with SCOTUS.
It will be too late. Companies will have already forced it on employees and they will have gotten the shot or gotten fired. The obama administration did the same thing. They tied things up in court for years and lost in the end, but it was too late.
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TxTarpon said:


You dirty commie.
Deport yourself.




Russia is not a communist state. Putin is a dictator, an autocrat. He's what your buddy Joe is.


Ahhhhhh, you're obviously upset. Are you banging on your little bell too? Calm down, Hector!

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