This is a good listen on Spotify.
20 minutes in. I think this will probably break the record for most downloaded podcast episode of all time.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6uCmb5wbprKYnpGwtktjgd?si=JvDgmT0YSr-EeYFhSIKXvA&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk
20 minutes in. I think this will probably break the record for most downloaded podcast episode of all time.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6uCmb5wbprKYnpGwtktjgd?si=JvDgmT0YSr-EeYFhSIKXvA&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk