Onceaggie2.0 said:

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Will our fake British subject opine?

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Arest thou querying whether or not one "askew goalie kick" shall be along to shed some colour on the situation?

Verne Lundquist said:

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Labour is losing seats to conservatives left and right.

Dumbfounding that that didn't happen in November with an electorate that is less socialists than the UK electorate

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Where are you seeing the numbers? I read there aren't exit polls this year due to covid although Tories are expected to pick up councillors.

uujm said:

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Verne Lundquist said:

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Labour is losing seats to conservatives left and right.

Dumbfounding that that didn't happen in November with an electorate that is less socialists than the UK electorate

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Where are you seeing the numbers? I read there aren't exit polls this year due to covid although Tories are expected to pick up councillors.

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@BritainElects

Sky News says so far

Labour has lost 27 seats
Tories has gained 23 seats

Lab -37
Tories +33

I read that Labour Councils were going to review pulling down statues.

Don't know if they ran on that but I'm sure it isn't helping

uujm said:

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Verne Lundquist said:

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Labour is losing seats to conservatives left and right.

Dumbfounding that that didn't happen in November with an electorate that is less socialists than the UK electorate

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Where are you seeing the numbers? I read there aren't exit polls this year due to covid although Tories are expected to pick up councillors.

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You should read more. There's plenty of data on this that are readily available.

T&P for SP

Incredibly disappointing defeat in Hartlepool.

We are going backwards in areas we need to be winning.

Labour's leadership needs to urgently change direction.

It should start by championing the popular policies in our recent manifestos - backed by a large majority of voters.

— Richard Burgon MP (@RichardBurgon) May 7, 2021

This dude is a Labour MP

Shocking that less socialist people in the US didn't vote the way they did in the UK elections

Verne Lundquist said:

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This dude is a Labour MP

Shocking that less socialist people in the US didn't vote the way they did in the UK elections

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Dead people always vote socialist. It's a 3rd world phenomenon that the Democrats have brought to the US

We have too many dumbasses that vote that think that free stuff and higher taxes on rich to pay for it is not socialism, but is equity and only right and just.

So Labour over there is equivalent to our libs? I know nothing about the Brit political parties.

BRILLIANT!

Giza a bottle a IRN BRU!

Rittenhouse said:

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So Labour over there is equivalent to our libs? I know nothing about the Brit political parties.

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Labour is closer to communists than our liberals. The Torries are closer to our liberals than conservatives. The British do have a nationalist party that is actually conservative as well.

Parliamentary politics are very different from ours. Also British politics as a whole are much more left wing than ours, at least from a socialist standpoint. They do, in general, tend to be much less willing to sell out their own country for the free market.

Basically my point is that you cannot directly translate our two party system on to their liberals and conservatives. It doesn't really work both because they have more than two parties and because they are more conservative on somethings and less on others.

It does not matter who wins, Conservative or Labor, for England is a lost cause for they are both the same.

Verne Lundquist said:

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Incredibly disappointing defeat in Hartlepool.

We are going backwards in areas we need to be winning.

Labour's leadership needs to urgently change direction.

It should start by championing the popular policies in our recent manifestos - backed by a large majority of voters.

— Richard Burgon MP (@RichardBurgon) May 7, 2021

This dude is a Labour MP

Shocking that less socialist people in the US didn't vote the way they did in the UK elections

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One of the reasons don't buy a few months ago.

Most people are only watching 1-2 news outlets, or worse yet vote how their favorite late night host tells them to. If everything you hear says Fox is trash, and you aren't prone to search for the truth, you'll be terribly misinformed in the U.S.

We need conservatives that are likeable while also speaking the truth about conservative ideas and why they are best for all Americans. As long as conservatives can't effectively get that across the mainstream media will continue to paint them as backwards, uncaring, in bed with big business, and racist. We have to be able to easily explain why conservative policy is best for middle America.

Valhalla is correct. On the whole, their entire politic is to the left of ours on a simple linear scale which is probably the easiest way to think about it.

I'm still waiting for Brexit to cause the UK to sink back into the ocean. I was promised it would destroy civilization.

Just wait...the trucks of ballots haven't showed up yet in Liverpool...

Rittenhouse said:

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So Labour over there is equivalent to our libs? I know nothing about the Brit political parties.

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The Labour Party base is FAR more liberal than that of Democratic Party.

Infection_Ag11 said:

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Rittenhouse said:

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So Labour over there is equivalent to our libs? I know nothing about the Brit political parties.

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The Labour Party base is FAR more liberal than that of Democratic Party.

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The Conservative party is also more liberal than that of the Republican Party.

Valhalla said:

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Rittenhouse said:

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So Labour over there is equivalent to our libs? I know nothing about the Brit political parties.

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Labour is closer to communists than our liberals. The Torries are closer to our liberals than conservatives. The British do have a nationalist party that is actually conservative as well.

Parliamentary politics are very different from ours. Also British politics as a whole are much more left wing than ours, at least from a socialist standpoint. They do, in general, tend to be much less willing to sell out their own country for the free market.

Basically my point is that you cannot directly translate our two party system on to their liberals and conservatives. It doesn't really work both because they have more than two parties and because they are more conservative on somethings and less on others.

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What are they more conservative on? I didn't know there was anything

fixer said:

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Just wait...the trucks of ballots haven't showed up yet in Liverpool...

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And, once the numbers get ran through Dominion, "Labour wins by 3B votes. Mandate for change given!".

So Thatcher was liberal lol..? oh texags

In 1957 my AF dad was transferred to Wethersfield AB in the UK. I was 10 years old, but my very conservative, political junkie dad had already gotten me interested in politics. The base had a monthly orientation for family members at the base rec center that covered quite a bit about British culture and some do's and don'ts.

There are two things from that orientation that I still remember. The first was that the attendees (briefed by a Lt Col) were told right up front that England was a Socialist country and their political system was much different than ours. The speaker described some aspects of English socialism that most Americans would find strange and cautioned the adults to tread carefully when discussing politics with their new English neighbors and friends. (On base housing in the UK didn't really exist back then, so AF families lived on the economy.)

One comment that stuck out was that socialism impacts the people's work ethic and we would see many examples of that. One example was road construction crews leaning on their shovels, equipment, etc having a smoke and talking to the other blokes instead of actually doing their job. When my dad got home that night I asked him about English socialism and we had a long, and very interesting discussion. I learned about socialism right then and there. And I don't remember my dad mentioning any positive aspects about it.

The second thing I learned is not that important, but very funny - especially now. We were briefed on British cuss words that would sound funny to us, but we were cautioned to not use them. The one I most remember was the word "Bloody". Apparently, at the time Bloody was equivalent to the F word. Of course my American school friends and I used that word a lot among ourselves just for laughs. Now, in the Harry Potter movies, every other word is Bloody. Always cracks me up.

On a side note, over the years I have met a lot of Brits living in the US and always chat them up when I can. Almost to a man, and woman, they prefer our political system - even with all it's warts. They especially prefer our health system.

Edit: I should point out that while my dad was "very conservative" he was definitely NOT racist in any way shape or form. It galls me that the Dems/Libs/msm now try to paint every conservative as a "white supremist and racist". That is a damned lie, but one that seems to be gathering steam. Constantly having to refute and deny that slur is definitely not good for the conservative cause. If a lie is repeated enough times, people WILL start believing it. A favorite tactic of Hitler and Commies worldwide.

Onceaggie2.0 said:

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So Thatcher was liberal lol..? oh texags

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She left office 30 years ago. Things have changed, bud.

Hell, you can look at many things Boris has said while in office and they would equate to our Democrats or even more left.

NormanAg said:

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In 1957 my AF dad was transferred to Wethersfield AB in the UK. I was 10 years old, but my very conservative, political junkie dad had already gotten me interested in politics. The base had a monthly orientation for family members at the base rec center that covered quite a bit about British culture and some do's and don'ts.

There are two things from that orientation that I still remember. The first was that the attendees (briefed by a Lt Col) were told right up front that England was a Socialist country and their political system was much different than ours. The speaker described some aspects of English socialism that most Americans would find strange and cautioned the adults to tread carefully when discussing politics with their new English neighbors and friends. (On base housing in the UK didn't really exist back then, so AF families lived on the economy.)

One comment that stuck out was that socialism impacts the people's work ethic and we would see many examples of that. One example was road construction crews leaning on their shovels, equipment, etc having a smoke and talking to the other blokes instead of actually doing their job. When my dad got home that night I asked him about English socialism and we had a long, and very interesting discussion. I learned about socialism right then and there. And I don't remember my dad mentioning any positive aspects about it.

The second thing I learned is not that important, but very funny - especially now. We were briefed on British cuss words that would sound funny to us, but we were cautioned to not use them. The one I most remember was the word "Bloody". Apparently, at the time Bloody was equivalent to the F word. Of course my American school friends and I used that word a lot among ourselves just for laughs. Now, in the Harry Potter movies, every other word is Bloody. Always cracks me up.

On a side note, over the years I have met a lot of Brits living in the US and always chat them up when I can. Almost to a man, and woman, they prefer our political system - even with all it's warts. They especially prefer our health system.

Edit: I should point out that while my dad was "very conservative" he was definitely NOT racist in any way shape or form. It galls me that the Dems/Libs/msm now try to paint every conservative as a "white supremist and racist". That is a damned lie, but one that seems to be gathering steam. Constantly having to refute and deny that slur is definitely not good for the conservative cause. If a lie is repeated enough times, people WILL start believing it. A favorite tactic of Hitler and Commies worldwide.

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Great and interesting post. The scary thing is the Left Democrats are actually doing what Hitler could only accuse Jews of doing --- deliberately running down culture, pushing Marxism, selling out to international agendas. Its frightening.