Nah. He was billing like 20K an hour or something ridiculous like that

Was that claim ever proving? It was made by his ex-wife's lawyer during a divorce hearing, so you can't put much stock in it.

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Nah. He was billing like 20K an hour or something ridiculous like that

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Per day

Old Army Ghost said:

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Was that claim ever proving? It was made by his ex-wife's lawyer during a divorce hearing, so you can't put much stock in it.

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Oh okay, that's just something I heard, but obviously it was wrong. Thanks for the info.

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Was that claim ever proving? It was made by his ex-wife's lawyer during a divorce hearing, so you can't put much stock in it.

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Per the NYT

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Rudolph W. Giuliani, who has helped oversee a string of failed court challenges to President Trump's defeat in the election, asked the president's campaign to pay him $20,000 a day for his legal work, multiple people briefed on the matter said.

The request stirred opposition from some of Mr. Trump's aides and advisers, who appear to have ruled out paying that much, and it is unclear how much Mr. Giuliani will ultimately be compensated.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/us/politics/giuliani-trump-election-pay.html

Rudy charging $20k a day is not really outside the realm of what's "reasonable" these days. I guarantee his usual rate is north of $2000/hr

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It is not out of line with what Trump has been accused of doing in the past. There have been allegations he did this to contractors who worked on his construction projects.

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Yes but as a contractor, I can tell you those rumors are stupid and are much like people who don't understand money, complaining about his taxes. I'm sure there were plenty of disputes with subs when building enormous structures like he does, but then they file a lien, it gets litigated, and if they are awarded a settlement, they get it. It's like people assume he just stiffed subs willynilly and they had no recourse, which is silly.

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Incredibly naive post. A lot of subs work job to job. Do not have the resources or time to fight someone in court for lengthy period of times. This wisdom will come to you with experience.

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I truly can't stop laughing at this take. It's not he who lacks wisdom.

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Lol me too. Been a contractor for almost two decades, Trump is building casinos and this guy is acting like he stiffing residential painting crews.

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Rudy charging $20k a day is not really outside the realm of what's "reasonable" these days. I guarantee his usual rate is north of $2000/hr

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Neither is cutting a lawyers time or asking them to verify their expenses, but we don't want to bother anyone whose trying to just get their angries on.

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RGLAG85 said:

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Carl Hungus said:

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Cactus Jack said:

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It is not out of line with what Trump has been accused of doing in the past. There have been allegations he did this to contractors who worked on his construction projects.

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Yes but as a contractor, I can tell you those rumors are stupid and are much like people who don't understand money, complaining about his taxes. I'm sure there were plenty of disputes with subs when building enormous structures like he does, but then they file a lien, it gets litigated, and if they are awarded a settlement, they get it. It's like people assume he just stiffed subs willynilly and they had no recourse, which is silly.

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Incredibly naive post. A lot of subs work job to job. Do not have the resources or time to fight someone in court for lengthy period of times. This wisdom will come to you with experience.

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I truly can't stop laughing at this take. It's not he who lacks wisdom.

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Lol me too. Been a contractor for almost two decades, Trump is building casinos and this guy is acting like he stiffing residential painting crews.

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You mean Trump didn't pick up his crew at the gas station every morning??

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Carl Hungus said:

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RGLAG85 said:

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Poppy67 said:

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Carl Hungus said:

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Cactus Jack said:

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It is not out of line with what Trump has been accused of doing in the past. There have been allegations he did this to contractors who worked on his construction projects.

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Yes but as a contractor, I can tell you those rumors are stupid and are much like people who don't understand money, complaining about his taxes. I'm sure there were plenty of disputes with subs when building enormous structures like he does, but then they file a lien, it gets litigated, and if they are awarded a settlement, they get it. It's like people assume he just stiffed subs willynilly and they had no recourse, which is silly.

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Incredibly naive post. A lot of subs work job to job. Do not have the resources or time to fight someone in court for lengthy period of times. This wisdom will come to you with experience.

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I truly can't stop laughing at this take. It's not he who lacks wisdom.

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Lol me too. Been a contractor for almost two decades, Trump is building casinos and this guy is acting like he stiffing residential painting crews.

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You mean Trump didn't pick up his crew at the gas station every morning??

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OP, why do yo post these news sources?

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Rudy charging $20k a day is not really outside the realm of what's "reasonable" these days. I guarantee his usual rate is north of $2000/hr

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Anybody that pays the Rudy we've seen lately $2k/hour deserves to be parted from their money.

I loves these threads great way to out and ignore sock profiles.

A man with a history of not paying his bills is refusing to pay his bills? Noooooooooooooo

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A man with a history of not paying his bills is refusing to pay his bills? Noooooooooooooo

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Biden's committed plagiarism in both his academic (and I use that word loosely for this dumbass) and professional career.....

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I heard that Rudy was working for Trump for free. Why would there be anything Trump would have to pay him for?

Did I miss something where Rudy was no longer working for free?

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He was working unpaid, which will wind up being for free.

Flag and ignore them. Staff will do the rest

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Oh look. Unnamed Sources!

Again!

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Yet posters had no problem believing McConnell supported impeaching Trump from unnamed sources.

Why would this be different?

Lots of subs get tangled up in change order disputes and cost overruns and then disputes over contract terms being fulfilled or not and it's legally arbitrated. Cost of doing big business can be high. The bigger the project the more likely there are disputes, but I don't think many would argue Trump's team played more legal hardball than most.

I think it's like anything: confirmation bias rules and if the information confirmed their intuition or preconception, they ran with it. It's a human flaw difficult to overcome unless you are purposefully skeptical and self disciplined.

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Zero chance Trump done that to Rudy. None.

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Bet.

Rudy produced zero usable evidence, accidentally booked a presser in front of a landscaping warehouse next to a porn shop, had the sides of his hair melting on TV, and was hands deep in his trousers in a Borat movie.

If you think Trump SHOULD pay Giuliani, you're the moron in the equation.

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So if Trump pays Rudy, he's a moron.

If Trump doesn't pay Rudy, he's a back stabber.

Got it.

Pay your agreed debts, Trump.

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Trump has instructed aides not to pay Rudy Giuliani's legal fees...

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I'm not sure what it is....but I feel the need to storm the capitol!!!!

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Lots of subs get tangled up in change order disputes and cost overruns and then disputes over contract terms being fulfilled or not and it's legally arbitrated. Cost of doing big business can be high. The bigger the project the more likely there are disputes, but I don't think many would argue Trump's team played more legal hardball than most.

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Does GBH pay its debt?

How much time and how many posts on this thread commenting on what is probably false, liberal hearsay? Geez.

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

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How much time and how many posts on this thread commenting on what is probably false, liberal hearsay? Geez.

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What's funny is two different subjects and both liberals hearsay nonsense.

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Everything Trump touches dies

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Yea that pre-covid economy sure was awful. The lowest unemployment rate for minority groups ever and highest stock market. lol

Moronic comment.

Carl Hungus said:

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It is not out of line with what Trump has been accused of doing in the past. There have been allegations he did this to contractors who worked on his construction projects.

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Yes but as a contractor, I can tell you those rumors are stupid and are much like people who don't understand money, complaining about his taxes. I'm sure there were plenty of disputes with subs when building enormous structures like he does, but then they file a lien, it gets litigated, and if they are awarded a settlement, they get it. It's like people assume he just stiffed subs willynilly and they had no recourse, which is silly.

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What happens when he declares bankruptcy? Please tell the Atlantic City contractors and suppliers he ruined in the 80's and 90's.

It is very different to file a lien to get the waivers vs getting pennies on the dollar for work completed after filing BK.

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Rudy charging $20k a day is not really outside the realm of what's "reasonable" these days. I guarantee his usual rate is north of $2000/hr

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Doesn't hurt to request. Shooters gotta shoot.

I am certain some posters now saying paying Rudy would be crazy were waiting with baited breath a few weeks ago for his next announcement of pending victory.

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Carl Hungus said:

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Cactus Jack said:

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It is not out of line with what Trump has been accused of doing in the past. There have been allegations he did this to contractors who worked on his construction projects.

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Yes but as a contractor, I can tell you those rumors are stupid and are much like people who don't understand money, complaining about his taxes. I'm sure there were plenty of disputes with subs when building enormous structures like he does, but then they file a lien, it gets litigated, and if they are awarded a settlement, they get it. It's like people assume he just stiffed subs willynilly and they had no recourse, which is silly.

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What happens when he declares bankruptcy? Please tell the Atlantic City contractors and suppliers he ruined in the 80's and 90's.

It is very different to file a lien to get the waivers vs getting pennies on the dollar for work completed after filing BK.

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Well, if he declares Bankruptcy then his assets remaining are paid out to debtors in accordance with the laws, and when that money runs out people down the line get hosed. But that happens when a company is actually bankrupt, let's not pretend you can just declare bankruptcy like Michael Scott and stiff contractors cuz you feel like it. There is a bankruptcy court that presides over those cases and makes sure it is legal and handled properly. So criticize him for failed investments if it fits your narrative that your smart and he's dumb, but bankruptcy isn't refusing to pay your subs.

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agsfan said:

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A man with a history of not paying his bills is refusing to pay his bills? Noooooooooooooo

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Biden's committed plagiarism in both his academic (and I use that word loosely for this dumbass) and professional career.....

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Good point.
Other people have done other things. Why aren't we talking about them in this thread???

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hard to blame them for their ignorance, after all they just learned how journalism works in the last 4 years and think it's all a big conspiracy to hurt their feelings

the real news of course can be found on YouTube and in red siren tweets from accounts with lots of American flag emojis in their handles

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What a joke. Do you clowns ever post facts, figures, history, analysis. Its always this kind of generic trash and "unnamed sources"

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And they lambast conservatives for false claims. Even ban facts from social media.

"people with knowledge", and the old standby....'administration official'

Jesus.