Has there ever been a president to cause more damage to the Republican Party

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agracer said:

MaroonGoons2020 said:

captkirk said:

74 million votes


That was before he encouraged an insurrection and betrayed our country.
it's obvious this poster is a troll. Why are folks still responding?


This is the lie that the controlled media is telling the American people. It is being repeated so much that most likely a majority of Americans believe it. By controlling the media, the tyrants control the narrative and thereby control the people. This is how the Democrats get away with such blatant hypocrisy and few seem to notice.
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The problem with the republican party is not Donald Trump. The problem is our population has too many gimmedats and that mindset doesn't vote for the party that represents individual freedoms and responsibility over the party that represents collectivism and let the gubbmint provide. Oh and the party that represents collectivism cheats to win elections.
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Has there ever been a president to cause more damage to the Republican Party than Trump.

Yes

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Because of the hatred for him, we now have the most popular president elect ever

By whose standards, FDR was very popular.

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The democrats now have control of the house and the senate.

By the thinnest of margins, Obama had more and did less.

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Major businesses are starting to distance themselves more and more.


Just good politics. They did the same for Abe Lincoln (See New York 1860).

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Many A few of his followers are now considered domestic terrorists

Many more of Joe Biden's followers are domestic terrorists, including antifa, black panthers and BLM members.

Try again and this time think about it (D-)


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The media did far more.
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MaroonGoons2020 said:

captkirk said:

74 million votes


That was before he encouraged an insurrection and betrayed our country.


Oh! I'm sorry. I thought you were asking a question. I didn't realize you had a talking point to peddle.
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MaroonGoons2020 said:

Has there ever been a president to cause more damage to the Republican Party than Trump. Because of the hatred for him, we now have the most popular president elect ever. The democrats now have control of the house and the senate. Major businesses are starting to distance themselves more and more. Many of his followers are now considered domestic terrorists etc...
this is clearly ron pauls fault /texags
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Poppy67 said:

MaroonGoons2020 said:

Has there ever been a president to cause more damage to the Republican Party than Trump. Because of the hatred for him, we now have the most popular president elect ever. The democrats now have control of the house and the senate. Major businesses are starting to distance themselves more and more. Many of his followers are now considered domestic terrorists etc...


Supporting this guy at this point in time defies all logic. Character does matter.
There's whole bunch of gray area between "supporting the president" and "supporting a hypocritical mob that has exercised every possible avenue to attack this president" since Day 1.

It amazes me how many people fail to see that.
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Let's see what happens in two years. If Republicans get slaughtered up and down the caller, then you'll know.
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BaileyAg said:

MaroonGoons2020 said:

Has there ever been a president to cause more damage to the Republican Party than Trump. Because of the hatred for him, we now have the most popular president elect ever. The democrats now have control of the house and the senate. Major businesses are starting to distance themselves more and more. Many of his followers are now considered domestic terrorists etc...


The most popular president-elect ever? Seriously, did you type that phrase without laughing just a little?

Never. 6+ million more votes than his competitor. That is significant.
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agracer said:

MaroonGoons2020 said:

captkirk said:

74 million votes


That was before he encouraged an insurrection and betrayed our country.
it's obvious this poster is a troll. Why are folks still responding?
Because he is quoting facts. Trump supporters have a tough time understanding facts.
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aggielatoo said:

BaileyAg said:

MaroonGoons2020 said:

Has there ever been a president to cause more damage to the Republican Party than Trump. Because of the hatred for him, we now have the most popular president elect ever. The democrats now have control of the house and the senate. Major businesses are starting to distance themselves more and more. Many of his followers are now considered domestic terrorists etc...


The most popular president-elect ever? Seriously, did you type that phrase without laughing just a little?

Never. 6+ million more votes than his competitor. That is significant.
Keep in mind however, that every election prior to this one required that the votor expend some time and energy to go vote and have their voice be heard.

In this election, the ballot came to them (in the best case scenario), and was possibly even voted FOR them (in a very likely scenario).

To compare this election with any prior election to gauge popularity is simply being dishonest.
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look up the definition of insurrection, dummy
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BuddysBud said:

Abraham Lincoln.
It took nearly 200 years before a Republican could win in the South.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Mattingly

1980 minus 1863 = 117 years. That's not anywhere close to 200 years. Math are hard?
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UTExan said:

Has there ever been a president who drew such massive crowds to the GOP?


Who cares about crowds? Trump's narcissism leaks onto his followers. Is that the metric that a President is judged by?

Most presidents didn't even have rallies. What was the point of them? To feed his massive, fragile ego.

He lost the senate and house after one term.

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BallerStaf2003 said:

UTExan said:

Has there ever been a president who drew such massive crowds to the GOP?


Who cares about crowds? Trump's narcissism leaks onto his followers. Is that the metric that a President is judged by?

Most presidents didn't even have rallies. What was the point of them? To feed his massive, fragile ego.

He lost the senate and house after one term.


So did Hussein. Hussein/Biden lost more seats and statehouses than anyone in history. I guess he was even worse than Trump by that metric, too.
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Richard Milhouse Nixon

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WHOOP!'91 said:

BallerStaf2003 said:

UTExan said:

Has there ever been a president who drew such massive crowds to the GOP?


Who cares about crowds? Trump's narcissism leaks onto his followers. Is that the metric that a President is judged by?

Most presidents didn't even have rallies. What was the point of them? To feed his massive, fragile ego.

He lost the senate and house after one term.


So did Hussein. Hussein/Biden lost more seats and statehouses than anyone in history. I guess he was even worse than Trump by that metric, too.


Not really. Obama won re-election. But keep spinning around with that logic.
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WHOOP!'91 said:

BallerStaf2003 said:

UTExan said:

Has there ever been a president who drew such massive crowds to the GOP?


Who cares about crowds? Trump's narcissism leaks onto his followers. Is that the metric that a President is judged by?

Most presidents didn't even have rallies. What was the point of them? To feed his massive, fragile ego.

He lost the senate and house after one term.


So did Hussein. Hussein/Biden lost more seats and statehouses than anyone in history. I guess he was even worse than Trump by that metric, too.


slow down, 91. this wasn't highlighted in the approved talking points memo.
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captkirk said:

74 million votes
Many of which did not vote FOR Trump but AGAINST the left. I am in the latter.

I'd vote for a dog before I would vote for a leftest. That doenst make me a "Trump Supporter" in all cases. Granted he is far better than Hilldawg or drooler
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BallerStaf2003 said:

UTExan said:

Has there ever been a president who drew such massive crowds to the GOP?


Who cares about crowds? Trump's narcissism leaks onto his followers. Is that the metric that a President is judged by?

Most presidents didn't even have rallies. What was the point of them? To feed his massive, fragile ego.

He lost the senate and house after one term.


Interesting given the source.
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BallerStaf2003 said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

BallerStaf2003 said:

UTExan said:

Has there ever been a president who drew such massive crowds to the GOP?


Who cares about crowds? Trump's narcissism leaks onto his followers. Is that the metric that a President is judged by?

Most presidents didn't even have rallies. What was the point of them? To feed his massive, fragile ego.

He lost the senate and house after one term.


So did Hussein. Hussein/Biden lost more seats and statehouses than anyone in history. I guess he was even worse than Trump by that metric, too.


Not really. Obama won re-election. But keep spinning around with that logic.
You stated the bolded. I just added facts to that fact.

Hussein did win re-election, even with the worse measurable performance in his first term. Romney was painted as literally Hitler, even though he is about as milquetoast RINO as you can get. At least Obama had enthusiasm and rally crowds. Fortunately he was held somewhat in check other than his phone and pen by the congress he lost by being a socialist idealogue and race baiter.
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Ornlu said:

BuddysBud said:

Abraham Lincoln.
It took nearly 200 years before a Republican could win in the South.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Mattingly

1980 minus 1863 = 117 years. That's not anywhere close to 200 years. Math are hard?


I will concede it look over a century rather than two, but the point is still valid.

Or do you think that 117 years of hatred toward one president is not significant?

By the way, you were speaking of arithmetic, not math.
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wait a year
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Poppy67 said:

MaroonGoons2020 said:

Has there ever been a president to cause more damage to the Republican Party than Trump. Because of the hatred for him, we now have the most popular president elect ever. The democrats now have control of the house and the senate. Major businesses are starting to distance themselves more and more. Many of his followers are now considered domestic terrorists etc...


Supporting this guy at this point in time defies all logic. Character does matter.
I bet you didn't think that in 1992. For you kids this means the Dems ran around telling the world "Character didn't matter" because Bill couldn't keep it in his pants.
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Has there ever been a president more willing to take the blows and lure Evil itself out of its camouflage and expose it for all the world to see? I can think of only one person but He wasn't a president.
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BallerStaf2003 said:

UTExan said:

Has there ever been a president who drew such massive crowds to the GOP?


Who cares about crowds? Trump's narcissism leaks onto his followers. Is that the metric that a President is judged by?

Most presidents didn't even have rallies. What was the point of them? To feed his massive, fragile ego.

He lost the senate and house after one term.


Not sure if serious.
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Martin Cash said:

BallerStaf2003 said:

UTExan said:

Has there ever been a president who drew such massive crowds to the GOP?


Who cares about crowds? Trump's narcissism leaks onto his followers. Is that the metric that a President is judged by?

Most presidents didn't even have rallies. What was the point of them? To feed his massive, fragile ego.

He lost the senate and house after one term.


Not sure if serious.
I saw that too. About the 100th eye rolling example of stupidity I have seen this morning alone.
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Very divisive president. He was a very divisive person throughout his adult life, it was not surprising. He subscribes to conspiracy theories so that gives them credence in the minds of Americans.

His divisiveness can not be argued but I also can argue he's more a result of things that were happening well before his term. Starting with the behavior of Bill Clinton and the strong insults hurled his way, then escalating with people on the far left calling Bush a "murderer" due to actions overseas, to people questioning where Obama was born and the vicious attacks on him from the far right - it's just a waveform of reactions from both sides, with the wavelengths getting shorter and the wave peaks rising higher and higher. "Who will get those nasty libs the hardest and undo everything Obama did?!". "Trump!". And, they were right and got their wish. Leading to more of the condescending hypocritical responses from the far left that people will narrow in on.

I can state Trump has ruined the form of the Republican party I supported and voted for, but someone else could argue he's remade the party into something more people want? On some level, I feel a third party may result that is more of a far right party - we'll see. That would definitely weaken the traditional conservative voting base's ability to regain control of the Senate and House.
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Trump exposed the rino wing of the republican party. Trump got three non loony leftists on the court. He moved the headquarters of a government agency out of D.C.. President Trump built more of a wall along the Southern border than I imagined he could with the opposition he faced. He ended the cycle of endless war. And President Trump accomplished this while fighting off a fake coup, his own party, the msm and big tech.

The propaganda war against Trump as he heads out the door is shameful but to be expected when you consider the scum who populate his opposition.

There will be many more casualties if we are to re-take our country from the evil which has taken the levers of power. If history is fair President Trump will be considered a great President.

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ttu_85 said:

captkirk said:

74 million votes
Many of which did not vote FOR Trump but AGAINST the left. I am in the latter.

I'd vote for a dog before I would vote for a leftest. That doenst make me a "Trump Supporter" in all cases. Granted he is far better than Hilldawg or drooler
Trump gave the Republican party a wakeup call. The party needed to decide what it's going to stand for because they haven't stood for their principles in years. Trump made people stand up and think about what was being forced on them by the leftists, elites and entrenched politicians. He's done a lot of good things but his time is done. He's great at stirring the pot and getting people off their butts but he's a jackass and he can't bring people together to take the next step. I'm not sure who it's going to be but we need someone else to take the reins of the conservative movement, party be damned, and use the momentum to get real change in the swamp.
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Has there ever been a liberal with a decent understanding of history?
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Well, yes, Abraham Lincoln.

Trump never should have been sanctioned / allowed to run as a Republican IMHO. I liked some of his policies but his temperament, demeanor, speaking ability, decorum were always not up to the standards of the office, and often times embarrassing and cringe-worthy.

But I am glad he was President if for no other reason Hillary was not!!
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I think the significant effort to impeach him less than 2 weeks before he leaves office tells us all we need to know. He's a major threat to the comfortable career Federal politican ( D & R alike) , their corporate collaborators , and their insidious collective collaboration with the Chinese to sell us Americans out in favor of setting themselves and their families up for being a part of the ruling class.

They are trying to stomp him out and discredit him as much as humanly possible because they know if they don't put out the fire and extinguish the ashes he and those that think like him are going to continue to be a danger to their way of life. Trump helped open up a lot of peoples eyes over thee past 4 years.
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MaroonGoons2020 said:

captkirk said:

74 million votes


That was before he encouraged an insurrection and betrayed our country.
You're lying. Stop lying.
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I can't be the only one that regrets their vote for Trump?

Personal Presidential voting history - Every Republican candidate since 1980 (Reagan) until 2016 when voted Libertarian since could never vote Democrat, but couldn't stomach Trumps' antics. Then over the last two years Democrats got me so mad (Kavanaugh hearings, wokeness, SJWs, riots) I voted Trump 2020.

However Trump, post election, has just been horrific. Were changes by state judges and officials in election rules unconstitutional? Yes, but something like that can only challenged and changed prior to election. After election it simply can't be overturned or have a revote. Trump's attempt to delegitimize the election, attacking Republicans in states he lost, supporting every wild conspiracy theory out there, and pandering to dangerous fringe elements of the far right (not conservatives) has been too much. All that was before last week's inexcusable event. Did he know the Capital would actually be stormed? I tend to doubt it, but he should have known it was a real possibility. When my 90+ year old father who is very conservative, and was a Trump supporter, told me Trump is not fit to be President last week I was in agreement.
 
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