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thirdcoast said:

Gabriel Sterling just now said that "no one was told to leave". But right before he said that, he said "its hard, because there is no audio in the video...its basically a he said she said".

So, he is basically siding with the people who are declining to speak publicly and lawyering up, and against those who have submitted sworn affidavits saying they were dismissed.
Just an aside: Gabriel Sterling is an avowed Never Trumper... Has been since 2016 apparently according to tweets prior to Trump being elected... #NeverTrump
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unmade bed said:

The affidavit posted above from Poll Watcher doesn't say she was told to leave. It says the lady in blonde braids announced to election workers to go home and come back tomorrow morning.

Are there affidavits from workers stating that they were flat told they had to leave?


Can you stop for a second and reflect on the absurdity of your statement?
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M-K-TAG said:

thirdcoast said:

Gabriel Sterling just now said that "no one was told to leave". But right before he said that, he said "its hard, because there is no audio in the video...its basically a he said she said".

So, he is basically siding with the people who are declining to speak publicly and lawyering up, and against those who have submitted sworn affidavits saying they were dismissed.
Just an aside: Gabriel Sterling is an avowed Never Trumper... Has been since 2016 apparently according to tweets prior to Trump being elected... #NeverTrump


He is also accountable for running a legit election, so he has huge motivation to keep a lid on any foul play that might make him look incompetent.
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unmade bed said:

The affidavit posted above from Poll Watcher doesn't say she was told to leave. It says the lady in blonde braids announced to election workers to go home and come back tomorrow morning.

Are there affidavits from workers stating that they were flat told they had to leave?


So when she "announced" them to go home, that is totally different than "telling" them to go home?

Please elaborate..
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BusterAg said:

alans17 said:

Ramdiesel said:

John Maplethorpe said:

Confusion and conflicting versions about "leaving/told to leave" aside everything was on video and everybody knew they were on camera. The non partisan monitor never left. Those ballots were separated from their envelopes in front of Republican poll watchers and packed for counting earlier in the day and properly counted. It's a non story.

What's the point of hiding them under a table with a tablecloth over them if the ballots were legal? They could have just sat those cases on top of the table or in a corner with the other ballots, but they put them in a hidden spot? The story the Secretary of State's flunky told is bogus..

At any rate, elections are supposed to be transparent right? Pulling cases full of ballots out from under a hidden spot in the middle of the night when a lot of observers have left does not scream transparency at all...This requires an investigation by real law enforcement not just a statement by some corrupt politician..


That's a stretch. First, what says they were hidden? That implies intent which is unfounded. Second, surely there are better places to hide your plans to overthrow the head of the federal government than unsecured in the same room with people trying to catch you doing that very thing where the cameras never stop rolling.


Stretch? Why were the boxes ignored until poll watchers went home?


Who knows? Maybe they hadn't gotten to everything in the nooks and crannies yet? Surely they were working the whole time (or at least most of it) so it's likely just the order they took them in. Had to do them all at some point. But "election-impacting fraud" seems pretty far down the list of explanations.
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alans17 said:

BusterAg said:

alans17 said:

Ramdiesel said:

John Maplethorpe said:

Confusion and conflicting versions about "leaving/told to leave" aside everything was on video and everybody knew they were on camera. The non partisan monitor never left. Those ballots were separated from their envelopes in front of Republican poll watchers and packed for counting earlier in the day and properly counted. It's a non story.

What's the point of hiding them under a table with a tablecloth over them if the ballots were legal? They could have just sat those cases on top of the table or in a corner with the other ballots, but they put them in a hidden spot? The story the Secretary of State's flunky told is bogus..

At any rate, elections are supposed to be transparent right? Pulling cases full of ballots out from under a hidden spot in the middle of the night when a lot of observers have left does not scream transparency at all...This requires an investigation by real law enforcement not just a statement by some corrupt politician..


That's a stretch. First, what says they were hidden? That implies intent which is unfounded. Second, surely there are better places to hide your plans to overthrow the head of the federal government than unsecured in the same room with people trying to catch you doing that very thing where the cameras never stop rolling.


Stretch? Why were the boxes ignored until poll watchers went home?


Who knows? Maybe they hadn't gotten to everything in the nooks and crannies yet? Surely they were working the whole time (or at least most of it) so it's likely just the order they took them in. Had to do them all at some point. But "election-impacting fraud" seems pretty far down the list of explanations.


Another joke of a poster. Coming out of the woodwork.
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snowdog90 said:

alans17 said:

BusterAg said:

alans17 said:

Ramdiesel said:

John Maplethorpe said:

Confusion and conflicting versions about "leaving/told to leave" aside everything was on video and everybody knew they were on camera. The non partisan monitor never left. Those ballots were separated from their envelopes in front of Republican poll watchers and packed for counting earlier in the day and properly counted. It's a non story.

What's the point of hiding them under a table with a tablecloth over them if the ballots were legal? They could have just sat those cases on top of the table or in a corner with the other ballots, but they put them in a hidden spot? The story the Secretary of State's flunky told is bogus..

At any rate, elections are supposed to be transparent right? Pulling cases full of ballots out from under a hidden spot in the middle of the night when a lot of observers have left does not scream transparency at all...This requires an investigation by real law enforcement not just a statement by some corrupt politician..


That's a stretch. First, what says they were hidden? That implies intent which is unfounded. Second, surely there are better places to hide your plans to overthrow the head of the federal government than unsecured in the same room with people trying to catch you doing that very thing where the cameras never stop rolling.


Stretch? Why were the boxes ignored until poll watchers went home?


Who knows? Maybe they hadn't gotten to everything in the nooks and crannies yet? Surely they were working the whole time (or at least most of it) so it's likely just the order they took them in. Had to do them all at some point. But "election-impacting fraud" seems pretty far down the list of explanations.


Another joke of a poster. Coming out of the woodwork.


A+ rebuttal
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
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thirdcoast said:

unmade bed said:

The affidavit posted above from Poll Watcher doesn't say she was told to leave. It says the lady in blonde braids announced to election workers to go home and come back tomorrow morning.

Are there affidavits from workers stating that they were flat told they had to leave?


So when she "announced" them to go home, that is totally different than "telling" them to go home?

Please elaborate..
"Everybody go home we're done counting for the night. we will resume at 8:30 tomorrow morning"

should obviously be construed as:

"just the cutters go home, we will be counting through the night"

duh, its obvious. i can't believe the stupid republicans didn't understand what she meant.
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Philip J Fry said:

Again. If those running the election are corrupt, then there's no reason for me to believe those same officials. It really isn't that hard.
Yeah, what are they gonna say "aww man, you got us. We cheated".

I see a lot of observers earlier in the day. While this "normal ballot processing" is going on, where are the observers? I see blond braids and a few people on the machines or unloading suitcases full of ballots from under the table with a black cloth over it.

Where are the observers, if this is supposedly legit? There are sworn affidavits that the observers were told to leave and didn't return until after 1AM when they heard people were still there counting.

I guess we should dismiss the sworn testimony of first-hand witnesses because these guys continue to deny cheating in spite of video evidence.
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alans17 said:

snowdog90 said:

alans17 said:

BusterAg said:

alans17 said:

Ramdiesel said:

John Maplethorpe said:

Confusion and conflicting versions about "leaving/told to leave" aside everything was on video and everybody knew they were on camera. The non partisan monitor never left. Those ballots were separated from their envelopes in front of Republican poll watchers and packed for counting earlier in the day and properly counted. It's a non story.

What's the point of hiding them under a table with a tablecloth over them if the ballots were legal? They could have just sat those cases on top of the table or in a corner with the other ballots, but they put them in a hidden spot? The story the Secretary of State's flunky told is bogus..

At any rate, elections are supposed to be transparent right? Pulling cases full of ballots out from under a hidden spot in the middle of the night when a lot of observers have left does not scream transparency at all...This requires an investigation by real law enforcement not just a statement by some corrupt politician..


That's a stretch. First, what says they were hidden? That implies intent which is unfounded. Second, surely there are better places to hide your plans to overthrow the head of the federal government than unsecured in the same room with people trying to catch you doing that very thing where the cameras never stop rolling.


Stretch? Why were the boxes ignored until poll watchers went home?


Who knows? Maybe they hadn't gotten to everything in the nooks and crannies yet? Surely they were working the whole time (or at least most of it) so it's likely just the order they took them in. Had to do them all at some point. But "election-impacting fraud" seems pretty far down the list of explanations.


Another joke of a poster. Coming out of the woodwork.


A+ rebuttal
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem


Rebutting morons, liars and sheep becomes tiresome after a while. You are what you are, i can't help you, so I'm not going to waste time trying.
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M-K-TAG said:

unmade bed said:

M-K-TAG said:

unmade bed said:

relevant affidavit filed in Georgia Kraken suit regarding this incident:

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.284055/gov.uscourts.gand.284055.72.1.pdf


One from the other side:



https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20420331-mitchell-harrison-affidavit


Affidavit vs Affidavit.. semantics or not... the observers were deceived into leaving so that the count could continue unobserved.


You seem to be reading motive in to what happened ("so the count could continue unobserved"). Even from the affidavit you linked to, that affiant just said that the lady with blonde braids yelled out to the workers to stop working and come back in the morning and so all workers except for 4 left.

This doesn't seem to conflict with Georgia SoS's side of the story that the employees that were opening and sorting ballots were sent home.

I said when the video first came out that it was suspicious and I needed to see a reasonable explanation for it as well as evidence of how those boxes came to be placed under that table.

Well, I think the explanation provided is somewhat reasonable and the fact that the investigator says the the ballots were put into the boxes with watchers there and put under the table with watchers there makes me fee less suspicious of what was first shown in the video. I assume Trump folks have all the video as well and I think it's interesting they have no released video of the boxes being placed there. Last week they said they were "trying to find that part of the video" because they had only had it for less than 24 hours. Surely they have found it now and if it shows something contrary to what SoS says, I imagine we will be hearing about it or seeing that shortly.

Good points but I will agree to disagree with you on the SOS statement vs observer statement because:

After the person arrived back at 1am he states at the end of his affidavit that they were told counting had been going on and they asked the security rep to take him and his counterpart to the ballot counting area:

Quote:

"Again we were told that those counting the ballots had "just finished" and that that there had been about 5 people there. Trevin and I thought that was odd because at 10:30PM Regina Waller and the supervisor lady had said they were done counting for the night and would not resume until 8:30 AM the next morning."


To me that says they left thinking no more counting would be occurring until the morning. Would they have left if they thought counting would still be continuing? I don't think so.


It is pointed out the poll watchers were indeed told to go home as per an ABC news report quoting Regina Waller the Fulton County public affairs manager.
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thirdcoast said:

This guy just danced around the topic of GOP observers being told to leave. He just said there was nothing shady about the ballots pulled out from under table.

This guy is a great goal tender




I agree except he is more than a goal tender he is a political lying POS.
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alans17 said:

BusterAg said:

alans17 said:

Ramdiesel said:

John Maplethorpe said:

Confusion and conflicting versions about "leaving/told to leave" aside everything was on video and everybody knew they were on camera. The non partisan monitor never left. Those ballots were separated from their envelopes in front of Republican poll watchers and packed for counting earlier in the day and properly counted. It's a non story.

What's the point of hiding them under a table with a tablecloth over them if the ballots were legal? They could have just sat those cases on top of the table or in a corner with the other ballots, but they put them in a hidden spot? The story the Secretary of State's flunky told is bogus..

At any rate, elections are supposed to be transparent right? Pulling cases full of ballots out from under a hidden spot in the middle of the night when a lot of observers have left does not scream transparency at all...This requires an investigation by real law enforcement not just a statement by some corrupt politician..


That's a stretch. First, what says they were hidden? That implies intent which is unfounded. Second, surely there are better places to hide your plans to overthrow the head of the federal government than unsecured in the same room with people trying to catch you doing that very thing where the cameras never stop rolling.


Stretch? Why were the boxes ignored until poll watchers went home?


Who knows? Maybe they hadn't gotten to everything in the nooks and crannies yet? Surely they were working the whole time (or at least most of it) so it's likely just the order they took them in. Had to do them all at some point. But "election-impacting fraud" seems pretty far down the list of explanations.


Not on my list. It's on the top of my list.

1) send poll watchers home

2) count the fraudulent votes.

Makes perfect sense to me.
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Too bad there isn't security footage to clear this all up and make sure nothing nefarious happened after the college kid in that affidavit left. He was the only one standing on that wall guarding democracy from anarchy.
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Is this the same Ruby in both
  • the late night unobserved count of hidden ballots and
  • the suspicious passing of what appears to be a USB stick to a woman with blond braids?
https://usareally.com/8540-video-of-election-fraud-shows-one-georgia-poll-worker-passes-usb-driver-to-another-worker-during-the-ballot-count
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