Starbucks Employee Fired for Refusing to Wear Pride Shirt

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https://nypost.com/2020/11/26/starbucks-fired-barista-for-refusing-to-wear-pride-t-shirt-lawsuit/

The LGBTQ machine of oppression rolls on: a Christian employee named Betsy Fresse who has worked for Starbucks since 2015, was assured her values would not be compromised in working for the coffee chain. That all recently changed when she refused to wear a Pride tee-shirt. She filed suit against the firm after they terminated her, citing that her beliefs violated Starbucks' "core values".
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3:55p, 11/26/20
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Wear the shirt, bigot
Whoop!
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3:58p, 11/26/20
Incredible. Liberals are disgusting.
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Gay.
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I hope she's so rich by the end she never has to work unless she wants to.
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Go for 7 figures. Unbelievable
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In reply to oldarmy1 • 4:03p, 11/26/20
oldarmy1 said:
Go for 7 figures. Unbelievable


This.

And conservatives, STOP BUYING THEIR OVERPRICED SHTTY COFFEE!
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I honestly don't know how liberals live with themselves. Mental illness is my only explanation.
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Very tolerant. Typical sanctimonious hypocrisy practiced by liberals.
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In reply to jetch17 • 4:16p, 11/26/20
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Gay.

PERFECT.

underrated post.
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In reply to Cassius • 4:19p, 11/26/20
Cassius said:
oldarmy1 said:
Go for 7 figures. Unbelievable


This.

And conservatives, STOP BUYING THEIR OVERPRICED SHTTY COFFEE!
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In reply to Cassius • 4:21p, 11/26/20
quit drinking coffee in general, get adequate sleep and drink water in the AM
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
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In reply to Cassius • 4:34p, 11/26/20
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Cassius said:
oldarmy1 said:
Go for 7 figures. Unbelievable


This.

And conservatives, STOP BUYING THEIR OVERPRICED SHTTY COFFEE!


Starbucks has really become garbage.
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They should rename it CharredButts.
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In reply to azul_rain • 4:38p, 11/26/20
hedge said:
quit drinking coffee in general, get adequate sleep and drink water in the AM


Coffee is good for you
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In reply to Cassius • 4:56p, 11/26/20
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And conservatives, STOP BUYING THEIR OVERPRICED SHTTY COFFEE!

I stopped more than a decade ago when I found out how many calories were in my favorite fraps. It was a sad couple weeks, but had to give it up.

And their regular coffee is literal hot garbage.
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4:56p, 11/26/20
The traditional gay deviant mafia!
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In reply to Onceaggie2.0 • 5:03p, 11/26/20
It's really not
you may all go to hell and i will go to Texas
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I defend Sarbuck's right to fire her just like I would defend the NFL's right to fire players for kneeling. I wish conservatives would backup business owner's rights, rather than some employee that entered into that job as a consenting adult.

She really should've just stuck to her beliefs and quit.

Freedom of political speech doesn't extend into the workplace.
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In reply to TEX465 • 5:16p, 11/26/20
TEX465 said:
I defend Sarbuck's right to fire her just like I would defend the NFL's right to fire players for kneeling. I wish conservatives would backup business owner's rights, rather than some employee that entered into that job as a consenting adult.

She really should've just stuck to her beliefs and quit.

Freedom of political speech doesn't extend into the workplace.


Except she was told when hired that her beliefs were no issue.
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In reply to UTExan • 5:20p, 11/26/20
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UTExan said:
TEX465 said:
I defend Sarbuck's right to fire her just like I would defend the NFL's right to fire players for kneeling. I wish conservatives would backup business owner's rights, rather than some employee that entered into that job as a consenting adult.

She really should've just stuck to her beliefs and quit.

Freedom of political speech doesn't extend into the workplace.


Except she was told when hired that her beliefs were no issue.
If that's part of her employment contract, then sure. Sue them for breach of contract. But I don't defend her on the basis that her choice to not wear the shirt was "protected speech". It wasn't.
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In reply to azul_rain • 5:21p, 11/26/20
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It's really not


It really is
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In reply to Cassius • 5:23p, 11/26/20
Cassius said:
oldarmy1 said:
Go for 7 figures. Unbelievable


This.

And conservatives, STOP BUYING THEIR OVERPRICED SHTTY COFFEE!
Amen!
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5:27p, 11/26/20
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God I hope I get fired for something stupid like this. I'd see that neither me nor my kids ever work. Grandkids will have to fend for themselves though
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In reply to TEX465 • 5:31p, 11/26/20
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TEX465 said:
I defend Sarbuck's right to fire her just like I would defend the NFL's right to fire players for kneeling. I wish conservatives would backup business owner's rights, rather than some employee that entered into that job as a consenting adult.

She really should've just stuck to her beliefs and quit.

Freedom of political speech doesn't extend into the workplace.
There's a big difference between being restricted from engaging in political speech in the workplace and being forced to effectively engage in speech you disagree with. This is more like forcing employees to donate to political causes. While it may still be technically speech and it MAY legally be an at-will employee issue (and thus, a legal firing), there also may be some legal issues involved. There are certainly policy issues at play here.

If XYZ Corp. fired someone (or even refused to hire someone) because they wouldn't come to a forced Bible study before work or wear a t-shirt promoting an evangelical preacher, the left would absolutely lose their mind.
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In reply to Cassius • 5:34p, 11/26/20
Cassius said:


And conservatives, STOP BUYING THEIR OVERPRICED SHTTY COFFEE!


This.
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In reply to Onceaggie2.0 • 5:49p, 11/26/20
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hedge said:
quit drinking coffee in general, get adequate sleep and drink water in the AM


Coffee is good for you

It's what makes day drinking easy!
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In reply to 91AggieLawyer • 5:58p, 11/26/20
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91AggieLawyer said:
TEX465 said:
I defend Sarbuck's right to fire her just like I would defend the NFL's right to fire players for kneeling. I wish conservatives would backup business owner's rights, rather than some employee that entered into that job as a consenting adult.

She really should've just stuck to her beliefs and quit.

Freedom of political speech doesn't extend into the workplace.
There's a big difference between being restricted from engaging in political speech in the workplace and being forced to effectively engage in speech you disagree with. This is more like forcing employees to donate to political causes. While it may still be technically speech and it MAY legally be an at-will employee issue (and thus, a legal firing), there also may be some legal issues involved. There are certainly policy issues at play here.

If XYZ Corp. fired someone (or even refused to hire someone) because they wouldn't come to a forced Bible study before work or wear a t-shirt promoting an evangelical preacher, the left would absolutely lose their mind.


They'd have to find it first.
Thomas Jefferson: "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
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In reply to HoustonAggie37713 • 6:00p, 11/26/20
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HoustonAggie37713 said:
Incredible. Liberals are disgusting.


And water is wet.
Thomas Jefferson: "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
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In reply to The Fife • 6:03p, 11/26/20
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The Fife said:
FPS_Dough said:
hedge said:
quit drinking coffee in general, get adequate sleep and drink water in the AM


Coffee is good for you

It's what makes day drinking easy!
I f#%^$&+ love day drinking
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In reply to 91AggieLawyer • 6:04p, 11/26/20
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91AggieLawyer said:
TEX465 said:
I defend Sarbuck's right to fire her just like I would defend the NFL's right to fire players for kneeling. I wish conservatives would backup business owner's rights, rather than some employee that entered into that job as a consenting adult.

She really should've just stuck to her beliefs and quit.

Freedom of political speech doesn't extend into the workplace.
There's a big difference between being restricted from engaging in political speech in the workplace and being forced to effectively engage in speech you disagree with. This is more like forcing employees to donate to political causes. While it may still be technically speech and it MAY legally be an at-will employee issue (and thus, a legal firing), there also may be some legal issues involved. There are certainly policy issues at play here.

If XYZ Corp. fired someone (or even refused to hire someone) because they wouldn't come to a forced Bible study before work or wear a t-shirt promoting an evangelical preacher, the left would absolutely lose their mind.

But it's those laws that I have a problem with. I think we've gone too far in the "employers can't fire you because they don't like you or what you believe" front.

People are allowed to be *******s if they want. Why not companies? I would rather let employers hire and fire you for whatever reason they would like, and let the market (e.g., glassdoor) sort it out. They will have to live with their own reputations.

In my opinion, the law should make sure that companies and people are transparent in their contracts, aren't breaching verbal or written contracts, and are not perpetrating fraud. Let the lawsuits fly in relation to these things.

If the plaintiff in this case is suing on the basis of breach of contract, I'm on board. Hope she wins.
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If she were Muslim she wouldn't have been fired.
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I hope the conservatives have learned to not hire liberals. They are tumors to developing a good working culture.
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