aginlakeway said:

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Ok.

Thoughts on how this would be covered if it was Eric Trump? And is this worse than what Trump allegedly did to get impeached?

And are you saying this is worth no media coverage?, compared to other stories the media makes big deals out of?

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If this same story was about the Trumps, would you care? Probably not much. Wouldn't change your vote. You'd didn't care about Trump's impeachment stuff did you?

Pumpkinhead said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Ok.

Thoughts on how this would be covered if it was Eric Trump? And is this worse than what Trump allegedly did to get impeached?

And are you saying this is worth no media coverage?, compared to other stories the media makes big deals out of?

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If this same story was about the Trumps, would you care? Probably not much. Wouldn't change your vote. You'd didn't care about Trump's impeachment stuff did you?

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As I mentioned above, if it was a story about before he was president and it had to do with a real estate deal it would not be abnormal at all. If it was a story about an oil and gas deal after he became a politician that would be incredibly suspicious. A real estate deal after he became president would also be suspicious though I'm guessing most republicans would give him a pass if there isn't very clear evidence of his direct involvement.

The fact that Joe would be involved in it and to be paid by it is the big problem.

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Pumpkinhead said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-tony-bobulinski-joe-biden-unanswered-questions

Fox News who obtained copies of documents, reporting stuff that strongly suggests Joe Biden was aware of Hunter's business dealings with China. But there is nothing proving that Joe Biden was ever formally involved or received any money.

Also this report by Fox News says that nobody ever got any money - not even Hunter - because the deal with that Chinese company never materialized.

If no money is proven ever actually exchanged hands, particularly to Joe, and this story is merely primarily about Joe Biden lying about attending a meeting with his son discussing a potential business deal, a deal which didn't even actually bear fruit in terms of receiving any funds...then hard to see this story going much of anywhere. Joe Biden lying about how much he knew his son was up to isn't much of a scandal on the typical politician scandal meter.

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So your take is that a man running for president fully knew and did not stop his son from trying to accept foreign money solely because his dad was vice president. Since it can not yet be proven that money never changed hands, there is no issue? Not the fact that the most powerful position in the world will be up for sale?

Has logic and reason completely left?

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FIFY

Hunter said he has paid for everything for the family for the past decade. We don't know money didn't change hands, and Hunter collecting the family money and spending it on one of Joe's houses is the same thing.

Pumpkinhead said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Ok.

Thoughts on how this would be covered if it was Eric Trump? And is this worse than what Trump allegedly did to get impeached?

And are you saying this is worth no media coverage?, compared to other stories the media makes big deals out of?

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If this same story was about the Trumps, would you care? Probably not much. Wouldn't change your vote. You'd didn't care about Trump's impeachment stuff did you?

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The impeachment stuff and the Russia hoax were all unsubstantiated garbage. After a $40MM investigation, no American colluded with the Russians. After a full impeachment hearing, no quid pro quo was found with Ukraine.

So many leftists are eager to write this off as a nothing burger despite the evidence and first-hand witness those hoaxes never had, but the media and social media ran with all day every day, and leftists just KNEW had to be true.

His background screams the obvious about the supposed gap in his resume -- intelligence or confidential private contracting. But the fact that it is even an issue is so typical dim/lib -- don't like the message so avoid it and attack the messenger.

And anyone that believes this is a nothing-burger and Joe is in the clear because of when it happened is forgetting that his is one of MANY burgers, many of which happened while the Big Guy was VP and a direct participant. This gives credence to the additional mountain of corruption and should not be viewed as a stand-alone or outlier.

And no one with any intellectual honesty can really believe that that these opportunities just suddenly appeared in January 2017 when Joe left office. These relationships were built while Joe was in office, and were based entirely on the foundation that his office provided. Hunter doesn't get doors opened because he is the son of a former VP.

Moreover, the evidence doesn't only point to a deal with China. Other countries that the Bidens were trying to make deals with include (but may not be limited to)

• France
• Georgia
• Kazakhstan
• Luxembourg
• Oman
• Romania

How many others? This looks exactly like a pay-to-play influence peddling scheme. Maybe it's really not, but why isn't the Democrat Media curious? Even a little bit?

They like stories that have no evidence.

If Trump doesn't win, how long before this guy suicides himself with 6 bullets to the back of the head?

Then why doesn't joe just oops I forgot? That would be totally believable considering his lapses

And Hunter could say "The deal was fishy so we backed out and didn't fund"


*crickets*

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You'd didn't care about Trump's impeachment stuff did you?

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I cared about it. If you remember, Trump was impeached for saying that Biden's corruption should be investigated. Everything he said on that call was appropriate and even more so now that e-mail proof has been uncovered to prove that Biden was on the take.

Pumpkinhead said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Ok.

Thoughts on how this would be covered if it was Eric Trump? And is this worse than what Trump allegedly did to get impeached?

And are you saying this is worth no media coverage?, compared to other stories the media makes big deals out of?

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If this same story was about the Trumps, would you care? Probably not much. Wouldn't change your vote. You'd didn't care about Trump's impeachment stuff did you?

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I absolutely did care about it. IMO ... Trump was impeached for saying that Biden's corruption should be investigated.

I voted for the candidate whose policies benefits me and my family the most. Same for you, I assume.

G Martin 87 said:

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Moreover, the evidence doesn't only point to a deal with China. Other countries that the Bidens were trying to make deals with include (but may not be limited to)

• France
• Georgia
• Kazakhstan
• Luxembourg
• Oman
• Romania

How many others? This looks exactly like a pay-to-play influence peddling scheme. Maybe it's really not, but why isn't the Democrat Media curious? Even a little bit?

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The Khazak deal is already news in the UK with possible implications for the Royals (Andrew)

Daily Mail has been on that trail

This whole thing stinks - whether Joe accepted a dime or not, and the level of suppression in the US tells us so

Honestly this is bigger than Biden - it's leads to Obama, the Clinton's and the Kerry's and Iran deal

Swamp doesn't want this to lead to the bigger issue - Iran, Libya, Syrian rebels.....China. It kills the color war and Russia narrative

Rush just said the news agencies have received threats that if they cover this story, they will be blackballed by the Biden/Harris administration if elected.

texrover91 said:

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Then why doesn't joe just oops I forgot? That would be totally believable considering his lapses

And Hunter could say "The deal was fishy so we backed out and didn't fund"


*crickets*

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yeah, sure. say that about one deal - or one partnership he was in the process of setting up with a Chinese entity - yeah, Joe wasn't VP anymore and it didn't materialize as intended with Bobulinski... Nothing burger that one away if you want, but Hunter and Jim would still have a whole bunch of other entities and deals to unwind, many of which date back to when the Big Guy was VP. Bobulinski is simply providing corroborating evidence that Joe lied about ever knowing anything about Hunter's business dealings. As far as political corruption, Burisma already has mountains of corroborating evidence. Joe is corrupt asF. MSM ignoring it is just absolutely NUTS. There is no "nothing burger" about that. Bobulinski's partnership with Chinese - ok, he wasn't funded, but Hunter probably was - doesn't matter. These guys are corrupt and Biden is compromised as Bobulinski pointed out.

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If Trump doesn't win, how long before this guy suicides himself with 6 bullets to the back of the head?

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He won't unless it directly impacts the Clintons.

The Bidens are the incompetent version of the Clintons.

Rockdoc said:

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Rush just said the news agencies have received threats that if they cover this story, they will be blackballed by the Biden/Harris administration if elected.

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"you're not getting the billion dollars...."

One other thing to consider: the Biden team called Bobulinski a Russian agent.

Calling a Penn State grad and naval officer a Russian spy just because he's got a -ski at the end of his name isn't going to play well in Pennsylvania.

Rockdoc said:

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Rush just said the news agencies have received threats that if they cover this story, they will be blackballed by the Biden/Harris administration if elected.

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Didn't an Obama judge object to trump pulling CNNs credentials? Now Biden is threatening to cut off media?

Ulrich said:

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One other thing to consider: the Biden team called Bobulinski a Russian agent.

Calling a Penn State grad and naval officer a Russian spy just because he's got a -ski at the end of his name isn't going to play well in Pennsylvania.

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Excepting of course with Pitt grads.

TexasAggie_02 said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Rush just said the news agencies have received threats that if they cover this story, they will be blackballed by the Biden/Harris administration if elected.

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Didn't an Obama judge object to trump pulling CNNs credentials? Now Biden is threatening to cut off media?

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Yeah, we can't have a double standard with MSM reporting now can we? Because that would be as wrong as it is un-American.

G Martin 87 said:

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Moreover, the evidence doesn't only point to a deal with China. Other countries that the Bidens were trying to make deals with include (but may not be limited to)

• France
• Georgia
• Kazakhstan
• Luxembourg
• Oman
• Romania

How many others? This looks exactly like a pay-to-play influence peddling scheme. Maybe it's really not, but why isn't the Democrat Media curious? Even a little bit?

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If it's legit, what product /services did this "company" provide?

Same with burisma. What did hunter contribute, other than getting investigations stopped? What insight did he bring to the board?

TexasAggie_02 said:

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G Martin 87 said:

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Moreover, the evidence doesn't only point to a deal with China. Other countries that the Bidens were trying to make deals with include (but may not be limited to)

• France
• Georgia
• Kazakhstan
• Luxembourg
• Oman
• Romania

How many others? This looks exactly like a pay-to-play influence peddling scheme. Maybe it's really not, but why isn't the Democrat Media curious? Even a little bit?

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If it's legit, what product /services did this "company" provide?

Same with burisma. What did hunter contribute, other than getting investigations stopped? What insight did he bring to the board?

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Tucker asked that. Tony laughed and said "the Biden name." Hunter has no other credentials or qualifications.

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Rush just said the news agencies have received threats that if they cover this story, they will be blackballed by the Biden/Harris administration if elected.

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A threat to be blackballed by the B/H administration? Right after that threat I could see the B/H people and the media throw their heads back in laughter.

Well that's certainly interesting.

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Well that's certainly interesting.

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Three jump rule in full effect? could be interesting if so. Who am I kidding if Biden wins all of this vanishes

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Three jump rule in full effect? could be interesting if so. Who am I kidding if Biden wins all of this vanishes

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It's two hops but I get your point. They got a Title I FISA on Carter Page for far less. They likely could have gotten one on Hunter fairly easily had they done the two hops.

ETA: And the second hop from Hunter would have been the Big Guy.

Sounds like the Team Trump needs to start doing some "UnMasking".

What's good for the goose...

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Three jump rule in full effect? could be interesting if so. Who am I kidding if Biden wins all of this vanishes

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It's two hops but I get your point. They got a Title I FISA on Carter Page for far less. They likely could have gotten one on Hunter fairly easily had they done the two hops.

ETA: And the second hop from Hunter would have been the Big Guy.

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You mean the "Chairman"?

G Martin 87 said:

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TexasAggie_02 said:

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G Martin 87 said:

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Moreover, the evidence doesn't only point to a deal with China. Other countries that the Bidens were trying to make deals with include (but may not be limited to)

• France
• Georgia
• Kazakhstan
• Luxembourg
• Oman
• Romania

How many others? This looks exactly like a pay-to-play influence peddling scheme. Maybe it's really not, but why isn't the Democrat Media curious? Even a little bit?

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If it's legit, what product /services did this "company" provide?

Same with burisma. What did hunter contribute, other than getting investigations stopped? What insight did he bring to the board?

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Tucker asked that. Tony laughed and said "the Biden name." Hunter has no other credentials or qualifications.

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So like what Eric and Jr. and Ivanka use in their business dealings...Trumps name?